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RCs The Big Phenazepam Throw Together Part-2

HdoubleODeezy

HdoubleODeezy

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Part 1: http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/showthread.php?t=321757

I just thought it has been a while since any questions or info on phenazepam has been posted..
And after the "Throw together part-1" was closed there was never a part-2 opened, so hopefully i am allowed to make this thread.
I don't have anything new to add, except i have recently got a small amount of pretty decent phenaz just to prove there is still good stuff out there.

Hopefully some people that were into it before have learned new info about the RC and hopefully make some interesting reading/ discussion.

Remember people.. NO sourcing.

Mods. If this isn't allowed or if there was a reason for not making a part-2 that i wasn't aware of i apologize and you can make this disappear if you wish. But please PM me as to why.

It just seems that all talk and interest in this great chemical stopped when there were a few suppliers with highly cut product. Hopefully we can look past those scumbags and appreciate it for what it is.. a great benzodiazepine that can help many with anxiety and that can be acquired w/o a prescription.
 
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I will start by posting the last post in the old thread, oddly enough it was by me lol:

HdoubleODeezy said:
but someone needs to try this out *if they have extra money* if you've been taking phenazepam regularly, go to the store and buy an at home drug test that tests for benzos and oxycodone.. i did it a while ago on probation and it comes up negative for benzos but somehow shows up as oxycodone.. and i just got an oui/dwi and i had been taking phenazepam and their lab test came back i was taking oxycodone not phenazepam.. it just dont make sense to me.. i know this post is almost not allowed but its not a drug testing question really, its just something wierd that happens with the drug tests and phenazepam..


Mods-UA if needed, i just wanted to know if its only me.
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Not sure if anyone has done this yet.. but finding out if it has happened to anyone else would be interesting.
 
HdoubleODeezy said:
I will start by posting the last post in the old thread, oddly enough it was by me lol:



Not sure if anyone has done this yet.. but finding out if it has happened to anyone else would be interesting.
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Obviously this makes zero sense.

Phenaz and oxycodone are not even remotely related from a chemical standpoint. There has to be some other reason for this.
 
^ i know right!!! i wouldn't believe it if i didn't see for myself. i took the drug test myself and i know i haven't touched oxycodone since june 11th 2007. And all i was taking at the time other than phenazepam were, olanzapine, clonidine, hydroxyzine, atenolol, tizanidine, ambien, and suboxone.

The only thing i could come up with was the phenazepam that i had been taking was cut with oxycodone lol.
either that or someone was slipping me oxy with my food or something lol, i wish.

But it happened with an at home test and a test done by the police about 6months apart.


EDIT: OK no more DT talk, i was just trying to give a starting point for conversation (obviously chose the wrong subject) i just dont want this getting closed for it being thought of as a DT thread.
 
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I had gotten so use to vendors "cutting this product" that when I got a some true-blue uncut stuff a few days ago I over did it to say the least. I got out the old milli scale, and measure ouf a few doses I could use over the next couple of days. This shit was so strong I am still feeling barred out 3 days latter. Thankfully it hasn't messed with my work schedule so I'm in the clear as far as fuciking up something in my life. I love the effects of phenazepam...it is like a longer lasting valuim to me...plus it is still legal. Would I choose it over xanax/valies/k-pins..no, but it is a godsend for those of us who cut out our insurance to save short term money.
 
Well that's good news, I wasn't sure if there was any good vendors still. I don't have any spare income at the moment but will probably procure some again in due time.
 
That sounds absolutely wonderful actually.

I'd rather get benzo powders over actual scripts to be honest. I think I'm sick of clonazepam, although nowadays, it definitely works on me.
 
I think we all know how to look up a benzodiazepine equivalency chart by now. Not being sarcastic. It's just the truth. If anyone has any questions about that, see your doctor.

I remain on benzo therapy for both chronic and acute anxiety, and phenazepam is a huge no-no for personal reasons. I am fine on diazepam, 5 mg every 48-60 hours, with alprazolam as needed. My psychiatrist is perfect with that.

Diazepam has a ~60 hour half-life. Phenazepam... we don't really know with what it is cut right now. In theory, it would have the clearance of alprazolam. I don't think it actually works out like that. It is also difficult to dose effectively.

I have come to the conclusion that it is not worth trying in the first place, and quality cannot be controlled absent a GC/MS or if you live in a country (which there is realistically only 1) where quality control exists. Acute benzodiazepine withdrawal and benzodiazepine maintenance are best dealt with by a licensed physician. I know of several phenazepam horror stories from people eyeballing it, and also those that didn't eyeball it.

This drug is not worth the consequences. Lastly, anyone who would cut phenazepam with oxycodone is on par with the myth that E is cut with heroin. It would be totally against common sense. No price discussion. One of these things is not like the other.

If anyone still chooses to use phenazepam, please see my comments on how to use it (relatively) safely in the previous thread. There are three ways to do it. There is no room for inaccuracy with this drug. I will never touch it again, and it is legal in my jurisdiction. It has a bad vibe and it is a bad drug. If you wish to use benzodiazepines, you had best get your script legally and under medical care, and benzo weaning is a real pain in the tail at minimum.

Be well, all - this is not the stuff with which to fool around. :(
 
Most suppliers purposefully cut their phenaz with inactives to make it easier to dose though.

You make some great poinst Mariposa. It's pretty fightening that most people obtaining phenazepam right now don't already know those things. Well, you gotta learn some time.

I'm personally probably going to hold off on any powders until I can get some undiluted etizolam. I've personally dealt with phenazepam before and thouroughly enjoyed it, but there was never a time as that in which I was so utterly careful about everything regarding it's use and storage. I'd wait a full 3 hours (on an empty stomach) to ever even think about increasing the dose.

Phenazepam is no joke. People have already ODd and died from using it. It's almost as strong as LSD by weight. That's utterly insane.
 
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You're right, it is no joke.. but it is an excellent benzodiazepine when used responsibly IMO/E. :D

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Etizolam is probably one of the better benzo-class drugs IMO, though my blepharospasms were certainly scary. It is a risk with all benzos to a degree though, and if you are taking any benzos and start to have strange eyelid movements or sensations, you should taper off ASAP.

Regarding the cut in many vendor's products nowadays, reputable companies can be found. Do a bit of research before ordering from any certain place if it is your first time. Quality product can be had, though it may require paying more or ordering a certain quantity.
 
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