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The Big & Dandy Worst Psychedelics thread

since when is DPT over the counter? I wish I had your counter!!

diphenhydramine is not a psychedelic. It's a delerient. Massive difference.

I'd say that LSA is the worst. Too much body load, and too unpredictable. Then again, DiPT blows, too.
 
Agnu said:
I'm suprised noone has mentioned any of the OTC stuff like DXM, DPT and DPH... These drugs I personally see as being deleriants/dissociatives, but it appears that many people on this forum concider them to be psychedelics, and if so how is DPH not the worst, end of story. It makes you feel like you're about to die, the majority major hallicunations have to do with shadow people (which is just bloody scary at most times) and you tend to pass out on the peak. DXM I can see as having potential as a really good introspective trip, but i've been on 4th plataue a couple of times after sculling 3 or so bottles of the rotten stuff and although it was intense, cheap and available easily, it isn't really 'enjoyable' if you know what I mean. I mainly only do it when I can't get my hands on something better and need to communicate with my higher conciousness, but then I have mates who hold it as their drug of choice and would rather take it then Mushrooms and other, what I beleive to be more 'wholesome' psychedelics.

Anyway, my 2 cents.
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I like DXM a lot, it is no where near the bottom of my list.

What are you referring to by DPT? I assume you don't mean Dipropyltryptamine. DPT is a powerful tryptamine psychedelic comparable to things like LSD or DMT. (I've never had LSD and never a solid trip with DMT in ayahuasca, just using those as examples of common psychedelics of that class)



Ham-milton said:
since when is DPT over the counter? I wish I had your counter!!

diphenhydramine is not a psychedelic. It's a delerient. Massive difference.

I'd say that LSA is the worst. Too much body load, and too unpredictable. Then again, DiPT blows, too.
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LSAs (HBWR seeds) have definitely had the worst body load I have experienced as well. This is nausea, vomiting, stomach pain, a general feeling of sickness until I vomit near the peak, and often diarrhea. Usually side effects subside after vomiting, with the peak immediately following. There have been a few times where the misery lasts through the whole trip, those times I did not vomit.

I still put LSAs near the top of my list of favorites. I have had the most profound trips from HBWR and my first, most life-changing trip was with HBWR. It helped me overcome debilitating depression. It was an immediate, dramatic change from that first trip. The depression has never been nearly as bad since that day about 6 years ago. I wish I knew how a single trip on a psychedelic could be so beneficial and have such an immediate long lasting positive effect.


Don't take this as me questioning your choice of LSA as the worst you have tried. I realize these things impact everyone differently. Maybe LSAs just aren't for you.
 
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I found DiPT to be fantastic... it's subtle but extremely psychedelic. And the sound distortion is... intense. It is best used outdoors in nature... it makes the world come alive in your ears. It's probably the most unique and difficult to describe trip I've had, but it stands out as being far above average.

But hey, different strokes for different folks, eh?
 
Agnu said:
I'm suprised noone has mentioned any of the OTC stuff like DXM, DPT and DPH... These drugs I personally see as being deleriants/dissociatives, but it appears that many people on this forum concider them to be psychedelics, and if so how is DPH not the worst, end of story. It makes you feel like you're about to die, the majority major hallicunations have to do with shadow people (which is just bloody scary at most times) and you tend to pass out on the peak. DXM I can see as having potential as a really good introspective trip, but i've been on 4th plataue a couple of times after sculling 3 or so bottles of the rotten stuff and although it was intense, cheap and available easily, it isn't really 'enjoyable' if you know what I mean. I mainly only do it when I can't get my hands on something better and need to communicate with my higher conciousness, but then I have mates who hold it as their drug of choice and would rather take it then Mushrooms and other, what I beleive to be more 'wholesome' psychedelics.

Anyway, my 2 cents.
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You should read up on BZ. DPH is the closest thing I've found to how BZ is described, only it lasts for a hellish 3 days (including the day in a half your in a waking coma laying on the ground).
 
LSA fucking sucks. I took around 500 MG seeds I believe and I just felt sick to my stomach for 2 hours then was restless for the next 6 hours.
 
morning glory (lsa) makes you vomit like the little girl in the exorsist.... no.. seriously. I hated it. Had its upsides once the vomiting subsided but im not sure it was worth it for the quality of the trip.
 
I love LSA's but they're a bit hard on my mind. I used to see them as a light psychedelic but now I feel like they're quite hard on the mind. Last experience I had was wonderful though, must have been August.

I still think LSA's rank up there with acid and psilocybin. The body load from LSA's can be a bastard though, but it all depends on what you're doing. I've taken LSA's and then just lay on a sofa all night and then it was just uncomfortable to move from that position. On the other hand, I've taken LSA's and jumped around and danced my arse off for a few hours at a concert.
 
Of those that I've tried, IAP has to be the worst.

Others that I wasn't too impressed with, but were not bad either, were 2C-T-7 (at 16mgs) and DOC.

I imagine if I ever tried 5-MeO-AMT, it would without a doubt be on my list as well, but I never had the slightest interest in it.
 
DOB is pretty bad IMO. We got stuck with some hits that were layed with DOB, which I discovered from BL. I had always wanted to try DOB.....never again.

It will be different for everyone I guess. If the positive outweigh the negative then its a good drug in my book. With DOB, there weren't many positive aspects...no introspection, no revelations. Just pure AMPED up visuals.

Same with 5-meo-amt...negatives>positives

DOI was also pretty bad. 2.5mg = minor visuals and 17 hours of increased heart beat - mania.

The definition of god/bad psychedelic is completely arbitrary though so....yea

DMT, LSD for the win
 
nealcassady said:
just wondering to those people who say they don't enjoy the effects of Psilocybin's..


do you take this opinion of the mushroom no matter what the doseage?

-i can agree that at 3+ grams mushrooms get very flip-floppy in terms of varying emotions and comfort then anxiety, back and forth, back and forth

-but at doseages at 1g and below i seem to experience nothing but sheer peaceful euphoria, no visuals to throw my mind into a frenzy, and just an overall complete contentness with my body and everything around me.. i just can't seem to see how some of you can take your opinion of mushrooms being one of the "worst" at really low doses..

now, high doses.. thats a whole nother story
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bump'd, i'm curious about this
 
i hate mushrooms at high doses, however at the 1-1.25g mark i always have a blast. maybe some slight visual distortion, no mind fuck, just a giggly super positive mood ensues.
 
BZP/TFMPP standard sorta combo mixture. sposed to be an mdma alternative?

i found it to be fairly trippy and freaky, horrible visuals horrible comedown. generaly freaked me out.

my fave is psilocybin

much love oscar xx
 
5-MeO-DiPT, though 5-MeO-AMT is a tempting choice as well. 5-MeO-AMT, however, produces some nice visuals and can have a fantastic euphoric component. I also never got that nauseous off it. Though it will give you headaches for weeks afterwards. 5-MeO-DiPT experience feels empty, like an intoxicant more than a psychedelic, and it produces flashbacks for days afterwards (trigged mostly by habitual cannabis consumption). I want to like it, since its so cheap and plentiful, but I am just disappointed with the experience. It seems like it might be a good drug in combination with something else, perhaps 2CB or 2CI.
 
Agnu said:
Ah sorry a bit of confusion here is understandable, around my local we have a lot of OTC junkies, so when we say DPT we're most often refering to Diphenhydrinate. The community I live in is fairly tight so i'm not sure what the rest of the world refers to DPT as but that's just what we've grown up with. Also to clear up any further confusion, DPH is refering to Diphenhydramine.
Maybe a little off topic but after last night I feel compelled to retract my statement about DXM. You see, i've never taken a DXM dose lower than 600mg in the 30 or so trips i've had, with most of them being around the 1200mg mark, so i've never really experienced the first plataue. But last night I took only 300mg and it was something competely unlike what I associate with DXM, it was very speedy and just had an awesome party vibe. Does anyone else on here prefer the lower plataues to the higher in DXM trips? I don't think i'll be taking 600mg+ doses again anytime soon now that I know that 300mg doses are that much fun!
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DPT normally refers to dipropyltryptamine.

DXM and Diphenhydrinate are easily two of the most neurotoxic psychs that someone can use. I highly advise you to cease using either of them.
 
People shouldn't rag so much on 5-MeO-AMT. I've had some really memorable trips with it. One evening, I had a beautiful experience on 12mg of 5-MeO-AMT and two hits of quite potent blotter. The whole night was sheer euphoria, endless dancing for hours, massages, light shows, fantastic talks, deep, intricate visuals. By the end of the trip though, I could barely put a sentence together. My mind was totally burnt.

These nastier drugs are best in combination with other drugs. The negatives seem to be lessened, and the duration and effects of the more pleasurable drug are increased.
 
My vote goes to AMT. learned nothing from it and the duration was just to long for me. ended up with head and eye pain. DOI is a close second
 
no bad psychedelics for me so far. just some that didn't work (sinicuichi. calea zacatechichi, voacanga africana, amanitas didn't do much at high doses)
 
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