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Phenethylamines The Big & Dandy TCB-2 Thread

Xorkoth said:
This stuff really interests me. I doubt there is any more info on it, but I'm bumping it for the prune.
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I still hope to see this guy one day. It's just about the only 2C derivative that didn't get caught in the Canadian ban of 2016.
 
Around 15 years ago or so (can't remember exactly when)
My (at the time) regular acid hook up sold me some blue pressed tablets that had a picture of a bumblebee on it and had a slight indent on each pill (from pressing them slightly off of center possibly)
He expressly said this a brand new psychedelic called TCB-2.
I tried it twice before actually looking up TCB-2 and was sketched out by the potency and lack of potential saftey so I flushed them all....
About a year later I was looking online at a site that reports on pressed pills (like pillreports) and saw that they were supposedly 2c-b but the effects were absolutely nothing like any of the 2c-x series thst I've tried and I've tried most of them....I seriously doubt it was TCB-2
But ti this day I'm still very curious as to what the heck that was!
 
Ballz_Trippington said:
Around 15 years ago or so (can't remember exactly when)
My (at the time) regular acid hook up sold me some blue pressed tablets that had a picture of a bumblebee on it and had a slight indent on each pill (from pressing them slightly off of center possibly)
He expressly said this a brand new psychedelic called TCB-2.
I tried it twice before actually looking up TCB-2 and was sketched out by the potency and lack of potential saftey so I flushed them all....
About a year later I was looking online at a site that reports on pressed pills (like pillreports) and saw that they were supposedly 2c-b but the effects were absolutely nothing like any of the 2c-x series thst I've tried and I've tried most of them....I seriously doubt it was TCB-2
But ti this day I'm still very curious as to what the heck that was!
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TCB-2's production requires high pressure hydrogenation, 2C-B's production is something a bath salt or amphetamine chemist can accomplish starting from shit like anise oil or certain skincare products I won't name. I would be willing to bet there was 2C-B in those if you found similar pressings from a similar time testing positive in a database like you mentioned.

I am really curious though, what was the experience like? I've used a comical amount of 2C-B but have yet to explore further out into things like TCB-2, ZC-B, etc due to the difficulty of production and the fact that they aren't on the market.
 
Didgital said:
Yeah someone earlier in the thread (years ago) stated that the Racemic synthesis is easy. It's definitely not, though it may be worthwhile if it's potency is truly comparable to LSD.
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In that case I'd recommend using that hydrogenation to make ___-DRAGONFLY compounds. Most people have had of the bromine substitution there, but if you look at other 2,4,5-trisubstituted derivatives, bromine is pretty fucking potent, like ethyl, iodo, trifluoroalkyl, propyl and isopropyl. That leaves things like methyl and chloro substitutions that may be even safer at the same doses (500-1200ug). The only couple of accounts I've seen about TCB-2 seemed to require 5mg iirc for noticeable psychedelic effects.
 
Esperighanto said:
In that case I'd recommend using that hydrogenation to make ___-DRAGONFLY compounds. Most people have had of the bromine substitution there, but if you look at other 2,4,5-trisubstituted derivatives, bromine is pretty fucking potent, like ethyl, iodo, trifluoroalkyl, propyl and isopropyl. That leaves things like methyl and chloro substitutions that may be even safer at the same doses (500-1200ug). The only couple of accounts I've seen about TCB-2 seemed to require 5mg iirc for noticeable psychedelic effects.
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Yeah, but Bromo-DragonFLY is dangerous to use. TCB-2 is less lethal if you accidently take too much.
 
MedicinalUser247 said:
It's suppost to be one of the most powerful Phenethylamines there is. Too bad it's so hard to make.
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It has one of the highest binding affinities, but that doesn't correlate to "powerful", EC50 values do and as far as I've seen, no literature has meaningfully gathered that data.
MedicinalUser247 said:
Yeah, but Bromo-DragonFLY is dangerous to use. TCB-2 is less lethal if you accidently take too much.
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How do you know this? Any sources about TCB-2 being safer other than it obviously being a less effective compound?
 
Esperighanto said:
The only couple of accounts I've seen about TCB-2 seemed to require 5mg iirc for noticeable psychedelic effects.
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Honestly, I've heard this too, but I'm not sure I can really trust any reports of bioassays unless they're coming out of Nichol's personal circle.
MedicinalUser247 said:
TCB-2 is less lethal if you accidently take too much
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Where is there any evidence of this at all? Again, afaik there aren't any 100% trustworthy reports.
MedicinalUser247 said:
Just by looking at TCB-2's molecular structure I can tell it's safer than Bromo-DragonFLY.
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MedicinalUser247 said:
Just by looking at TCB-2's molecular structure I can tell it's safer than Bromo-DragonFLY.
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This is the kind of hubris that killed countless from NBOMes buddy, and you're on a harm reduction forum. Acting like this thought process of "yeah I can eyeball the safety of a compound that's almost never been used in humans just off the molecular structure" is irresponsible.

People who see your response might also begin to view what you said as reasonable, leading to this irresponsible behavior propagating too.
 
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