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The Big & Dandy Salvia Thread - Second iteration

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Has anyone else experienced tears when smoking salvia?

I don't cry, but my eyes tear up. I'm wondering if this is a normal reaction for some people.
 
^ Thats probly just due to the fact that salvia smoke is somewhat harsh and some is geting into your sinusis which would iritate your eyes. I wouldn't worry about it.
 
Ok so this a long thread and if it's been posted before I apologize. But I was just wondering if anyone else has the same "problem" with salvia that I do (I use the word problem in quotes because it's not so much a real problem as I just feel more that I abuse it and it's out of my control). Anyway every single time I smoke salvia as soon as I get my first grip on the real world I immediately try and go back which I can't really remember, though coming out of the trip a bit more I remember having the feeling that I want to but also having the self control to just let it go, the first few times my friends wouldn't let me and told me to come down a bit more first. But they eventually they just let it go and this led to me smoking salvia non-stop for 2+ hours, I literally got to a point where it just stopped working. The entire time apparently according to my friends all I kept saying when I'd come down a bit was "I have to go back I have to learn more they teach me!" at which point I'd smoke another hit and it just continued like that; smoking, tripping, saying I have to go back, and then smoking again. And that wasn't the only time the few times I smoked since was the day after that experience I woke up the next morning and before I could even have my morning smoke I took a bong rip of salvia (which is strange because I'm not even sure what possessed me to smoke salvia upon waking before I even had a cig or few hits of good ol' mj) and came too realizing it had stopped working again and also down about another gram. And then there was one more time after that where I smoked it twice in a row the only reason I didn't continually smoke it was for the simple fact I came to in my living room and started in my bedroom by the tim eI got back there I had sobered up enough to where I was able to stop my self from compulsive re-dosing.
 
Has anyone else experienced tears when smoking salvia?

I don't cry, but my eyes tear up. I'm wondering if this is a normal reaction for some people.



I should light some up right now and see :p

I get a flush to the face, the pressure changes behind the eyes like taking a good rip, some blurryness. my eyes feel different for sure.


One of my most prominent symptoms of salvia tripping is a feeling like the angle of my head dictates all gravity. So say if I was lying down on the floor, all of a sudden walls are the floor and I wonder why i'm not falling towards them.

shift of the angles, feels like i'm glued to the wall...which is actually the floor, and i'm wondering why i'm not tumbling towards the floor...which is actually the wall.
mercy!
 
Glad to hear that. I don't know much about salvia. But for curiosity purposes, how many grams and how did u intake it? Thanks!

Sorry for the late reply:

I'm not entirely sure how much I took. I modified my hookah pipe so that it would accept a lighter, and it was the first time I'd done that, so I had to play around with it and take a few hits before I was getting anything. I can't say for certain but probably it all amounted to roughly 0.1g of 10x smoked through a hookah pipe modified to accept a regular cigarette lighter, a lungful, held for 20 seconds, done two times over.

Maybe that sounds like a small amount but my body mass and height is well below average.

Hope that helps.
 
JackARoe;859508+you said:
I'm always terrified when smoking saliva. Orally however is always enjoyable for me. You say it's best smoked late at night in dark and silence. I think the fact that i've only ever smoked extract in social situations in Norwich City center probably constitutes to the overwhelming fear.
 
The only time I can ever not have the living shit kicked out of me from salvia(10x or higher) is when I'm on an empathogen like MDMA/methylone/meph. I still get all the crazy effects but I "handle" better in that I remember most of what happens during the trip(which is rare) and I can navigate salvia land a little better. Going from sober to salvia land is brutal and like getting a mind rape.

Oral Salvia and Md is extremely enjoyable. I've tried smoking salvia when drunk and that was even more dis-empowering and terrifying.
 
Do you guys get the pins and needles effect on your arms and legs? For me, that is the effect that sets the tone of the experience. The stronger those come thru the more difficult the experience has been for me.
I've had success mitigating those sensations by combining salvia with a low to moderate dose of DXM or ketamine, as have others. I think they're a big part of the fear reactions since I'm almost always too confused to be afraid. My biggest fear is getting up unaware and injuring or killing myself, and combining it with dissociatives also helps me keep still.
 
One of the strangest salvia trips I had was when I arranged for my girlfriend to be giving me oral sex as I toked up 2 big hits of 15x.

Without getting into the pornographic details, it was as amazingly odd as you could imagine.

Though I could feel every delicious wet movement, it was so alien and otherworldy I didn't quite know what was happening to me. I did orgasm rather quickly and the sensation was magnified several times over...very nice, but almost too strange to be called erotic.
 
Confusion about Salvia?

The first few times I did Salvia are memorable. Everything looked trippy as hell, everything was funny as hell, and I can remember my trip sitter laughing his ass off at me. Yesterday I did it again, and have been thinking about it ever since...

Theres 2 sides to this story. Both sides start with me packing a bowl of 30x salvia in the bong, torching i t with a jet lighter, and taking the fattest reem I can.

Me: Holding in my hoot. Its been about 15 seconds now and nothing. After about 20 seconds pass the room starts to slowly shake. But the shakes and rotations were HUGE, like a few feet difference from their 'normal' position. This is when I exhale. The room starts shaking more and more violently until suddenly I'm falling down some sort of ramp as the pink background continues to spin violently. This goes on for about 5 seconds, and which point I say to myself "What have I done?! What if I'm stuck like this forever" and with that, the shaking slows down, and I'm back in the room in a different spot that I "left" in. All in all the trip SEEMED like no longer then 10 seconds.

Sitter: He's holding in his hoot for a long time. Exhales the hoot finally and head falls back. He sits back up, says "It's not." I ask him what it isn't and he just keeps replying with "It's not." Then, he stands up and bumps the table. I reach for the bong and move it to keep it safe. I tell him to sit down a few times and to stop walking around and he does. He then starts telling me to take the poster down because it's scary. I say no and he gets off the couch and starts crawling to the poster. He stops and takes a seat against the wall, a few seconds later, he comes back and asks what the fuck just happened. This trip was about 2 minutes long.

Now this is the part I don't get whatsoever.
How can the trip for me seem like 10 seconds and all it was was falling down while everything was spinning, yet I talked, got up and walked around, and have NO recollection of doing so. Also, how can it be 2 minutes yet only seem like 10 seconds?
 
Drugs.

More to the point salvia. You either didn't research and thought it was "trippy" or didnt get to the part about breaking through....

Did you read about salvia or think it was like weed?
 
You got off easy. Believe me, salvia can go way, way, way further than that. It absolutely kicked my ass, and I have substantial experience with powerful psychedelics.
 
Yeah sounds like you underestimated the powers of a super strong psychedelic. Kids these days think its all fun and games when they do something like DMT or Salvia, looking to just "trip out" for 5 minutes. But what they forget is substances like these can rape your mind if you are not careful or prepared.
 
No no no. I know about breaking through and all that. What I mean is. How does the body do one thing, and the mind have no recollection of it happening, as it remembers something else happening?
 
No no no. I know about breaking through and all that. What I mean is. How does the body do one thing, and the mind have no recollection of it happening, as it remembers something else happening?

sometimes that is the way it goes with certain substances.
you are temporarily rewiring you brain. there are things you should learn about from this - like the plasticity and fallibility of your perception and your mind. you construct reality yourself...
 
I've been trying to get time dilation with Salvia, but with no success. Some people talk of extreme experiences where it feels as if time has stopped. But I never get this.
 
I somehow managed to melt the side of my microwave, burn several bowls, the handle off one of my best pans, my bed (through to the wiring), carpet, piano, table, and so much more all throughout my house while under the influence of benzo's.

I have no recollection of doing any of this. My oven was broken, I have no lighters and no source of heat or fire. Yet, so much in my house was burnt. The side of my microwave is what gets me, even if I did have a lighter it would take more than a small flame to melt and warp the metal sideplate.

I remember taking my benzo's and waiting for them to start working. Then I was walking around my house for a few minutes, drank a glass of water and took a shit. When I got back out everything had been burnt, shit was all over the place and to me just a few minutes had passed.

Thing is though, your perception of time and reality is all screwed on drugs, espescially Salvia (IME).

To me it sounds that your sitter wasn't doing his or her job though, if they moved the bong away instead of sitting you back down. That is putting a little piece of glass over your safety, not cool. You could have ran out of a window, started punching at everything, (sitter included), or come through back into reality screaming and shitting yourself. So much goes wrong when you have a bad sitter.

Yea but I literally am MORE then twice his size. Im 4 inches taller and twice his weight. He said he told me to sit down and after a few times I listened. When he got out of his chair I know I wrestled him back in, despite all the destruction he was causing.
 
Salvia is one drug that I really don't like... its entirely unpredictable, the pins and needles suck, and even with MULTIPLE trip sitters, I still manage to do something stupid when I'm under the influence of it.
 
The two stories may conflict because of mental compression. A lot more time passed then 10 seconds and though you may not know it you thought and experienced a lot more than you did. You remember the overwhelming experiences, causing you not to remember the pieces your sitter describes. Kinda like dreams if I were to guess, in how the brain will only remember maybe 5% of your dreaming in a night, because that 5% is the only piece that stuck out as significant.

All theoretical of course.
 
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