StaySedated
Bluelighter
i am one of the few who gets good effects from nutmeg. i find it to be an atypical psychedelic rather than a deliriant(idk why people call it this, its not an anticholinergic).
myristicin in nutmeg may be metabolized into MMDA. Shulgin speculated this, as well as others. if it does or doesn't is still a topic of debate, but i did find this:
ntp.niehs.nih.gov/chem backround/myristicin.pdf
erowid doesn't have an "effects" page, so heres one i made(from all the experiences i've had and heard/read from others both positive and negative):
*note all effects listed vary between users and are based on experience and what i've heard and researched, not all of these effects should be expected
Postive:
-mood lift/euphoria
-dream like state
-open & closed eye visuals of varied intensity
-relaxation
-cannabis like laughter
-cannabis like "stoned" feeling
-psychedelia/psychedelic mindstate
-feelings of intoxication
-warm feeling throught body/pleasant body high
-increased appreciation of music
-some report empathogen qualites
-some report feelings of creativity, philosophical/insightful thinking, feeling spiritual
Neutral:
-pupil dilation
-bloodshot eyes
-unusal thought and speech patterns, shifts in consciousness
-sedation, stupor
-visual distortion
-increased heart rate
-impaired memory
-impaired motor skills
-dissociation
-drowsiness
-long effects come up and duration
-hallucinations
-high/intoxicated apperance
Negative:
-upset stomach/nausea
-vomiting
-headache
-dehydration
-dry mouth and eyes
-annoying body load
-body aches, stiff muscles
-anxiety, paranoia, or panic attacks
-confusion
-racing heart beat at high doses
-delirium at high doses/overdose
-erratic/bizarre and/or dangerous behavior at high doses/overdose
-delusions and strong hallucinations at high doses/overdose
-possible seizures/convulsions at high doses/overdose
-possible cancer causing substances
-possible hepatoxic substances
-possible nerotoxicity
lower doses feel very similar to cannabis and alcohol, producing a light sedation and a general intoxicated feeling and mild euphoria; moderate doses can produce more psychedelic effects, visuals, possible euphoria, a dreamy state, as well as more pronounced sedation and side effects; higher doses/overdose can induce nausea, vomiting, anxiety, confused states, delirium, severe dissociation, erratic behavior, racing heart, possible seizures/convulsions, as well as toxic effects to the liver and possibly the brain.
nutmeg takes 5-8 hours till peak effects are achieved, so many users take more when they feel little effects after a while leading to overdosage and unpleasant/overly intense trips. dry mouth and bloodshot eyes are similar to cannabis and generally occur at any dose, but worsen with higher doses. nausea is common, but does not always occur and is more common with larger doses.
it's mechanism of action is not really known. it's effects could possibly be due to compounds that the active drugs in the essential oil are metabolized into. despite it commonly being called a "deliriant", it is not an anticholinergic. an article from erowid mentioned action on 5-HT receptors, and this seems likely from my experiences.
nutmeg's effects can last for days, so it is important to dose low and go from there. i consider nutmeg to be psychedelic and i think it being labeled as a deliriant has to do with stories relating to overdoses.
so for those who enjoy nutmeg, please share any experiences or info.
myristicin in nutmeg may be metabolized into MMDA. Shulgin speculated this, as well as others. if it does or doesn't is still a topic of debate, but i did find this:
Because myristicin has hallucinogenic properties, Braun and Kalbhen (1973)
suspected that the allyl group on myristicin might undergo amination. Using
isolated perfused rat liver and rat liver homogenate, these authors reported
detecting 3-methoxy-4,5- methylene dioxyamphetamine.
ntp.niehs.nih.gov/chem backround/myristicin.pdf
erowid doesn't have an "effects" page, so heres one i made(from all the experiences i've had and heard/read from others both positive and negative):
*note all effects listed vary between users and are based on experience and what i've heard and researched, not all of these effects should be expected
Postive:
-mood lift/euphoria
-dream like state
-open & closed eye visuals of varied intensity
-relaxation
-cannabis like laughter
-cannabis like "stoned" feeling
-psychedelia/psychedelic mindstate
-feelings of intoxication
-warm feeling throught body/pleasant body high
-increased appreciation of music
-some report empathogen qualites
-some report feelings of creativity, philosophical/insightful thinking, feeling spiritual
Neutral:
-pupil dilation
-bloodshot eyes
-unusal thought and speech patterns, shifts in consciousness
-sedation, stupor
-visual distortion
-increased heart rate
-impaired memory
-impaired motor skills
-dissociation
-drowsiness
-long effects come up and duration
-hallucinations
-high/intoxicated apperance
Negative:
-upset stomach/nausea
-vomiting
-headache
-dehydration
-dry mouth and eyes
-annoying body load
-body aches, stiff muscles
-anxiety, paranoia, or panic attacks
-confusion
-racing heart beat at high doses
-delirium at high doses/overdose
-erratic/bizarre and/or dangerous behavior at high doses/overdose
-delusions and strong hallucinations at high doses/overdose
-possible seizures/convulsions at high doses/overdose
-possible cancer causing substances
-possible hepatoxic substances
-possible nerotoxicity
lower doses feel very similar to cannabis and alcohol, producing a light sedation and a general intoxicated feeling and mild euphoria; moderate doses can produce more psychedelic effects, visuals, possible euphoria, a dreamy state, as well as more pronounced sedation and side effects; higher doses/overdose can induce nausea, vomiting, anxiety, confused states, delirium, severe dissociation, erratic behavior, racing heart, possible seizures/convulsions, as well as toxic effects to the liver and possibly the brain.
nutmeg takes 5-8 hours till peak effects are achieved, so many users take more when they feel little effects after a while leading to overdosage and unpleasant/overly intense trips. dry mouth and bloodshot eyes are similar to cannabis and generally occur at any dose, but worsen with higher doses. nausea is common, but does not always occur and is more common with larger doses.
it's mechanism of action is not really known. it's effects could possibly be due to compounds that the active drugs in the essential oil are metabolized into. despite it commonly being called a "deliriant", it is not an anticholinergic. an article from erowid mentioned action on 5-HT receptors, and this seems likely from my experiences.
nutmeg's effects can last for days, so it is important to dose low and go from there. i consider nutmeg to be psychedelic and i think it being labeled as a deliriant has to do with stories relating to overdoses.
so for those who enjoy nutmeg, please share any experiences or info.