The Big & Dandy Nootropics Thread

[Ptah]

After how many days should I start lowering? I was thinking 3 days at 3200 mg then lowering the dosage by 400 mg each day until I reach 1200 mg. Is it a good idea?

People seem to react wildly different to piracetam dosage so it's difficult to answer that one.

I stopped the attack doses after a week and went to 800-1200 mg daily.
Worked for me, and in fact bigger doses don't seem to add anything.

I do notice a second dose later in the day but usually refrain from doing it, unless I really need or want to.
I.e. when I work extra and late, and for a night on the town, which are both sorta rare.

 

[Jabberwocky]

I've been using as low as 100-200mg doses in conjunction with a couple hundred mg of DMAE. Along with lots of coffee I am pretty well stimulated to work.

With nootropics, I've found more is often not better; in fact, it is usually counterproductive (brain fog, etc).

 

[Jabberwocky]

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[Ptah]

Lately I've been experimenting a bit with DHEA.
50-200 mg seems to cause a slightly increased sense of well-being, and also increases the sexual impulse, which is in fact pretty strong (often annoyingly so) to begin with.

For some reason I have my reservations about this compound.
I don't entirely trust it. Something's fishy. Dunno why.

 

[DemonSeed]

With nootropics, I've found more is often not better; in fact, it is usually counterproductive (brain fog, etc).

I experienced some minor amnesia when I first tried my regimen. The dose was too high (4000 mg piracetam, 4.5 mg hydergine and 250 centrophenoxine). I wanted to get a good feeling of what it could do. I had no problem at all working in class but when lunch time came, when I started talking to a friend, I had trouble recalling what I wanted to say. It went away pretty fast and I could hold the conversation pretty well. I also felt a bit weirded-out in the end of the afternoon... so yes too much smart drugs isn't smart.

 

[Ptah]

I have no experience with centrophenoxine but definitely do not like 4.5mg hydergine.
Too psychoactive, with unacceptable body load.
2.25mg worked well for a while, but I even cut that back a bit.
Recently I experienced some weird mental and emotional problems and stopped all nootropics until I was fine again, which btw happened rather quickly.
No proof or even idea if the nootropics and the subsequent abstination were factors, but I suspect it was mainly the hydergine.

Will reembark again soon.

 

[Dondante]

Lately I've been experimenting a bit with DHEA.
50-200 mg seems to cause a slightly increased sense of well-being, and also increases the sexual impulse, which is in fact pretty strong (often annoyingly so) to begin with.

For some reason I have my reservations about this compound.
I don't entirely trust it. Something's fishy. Dunno why.

200mg+ DHEA gives me a solid case of the brain fog. Centrophenoxine (and maybe low dose DHEA) are effective in mitigating piracetam-induced headaches. I haven't touched nootropics in a while though, unless you count bupropion, which I think is much better than any of these nootropics. :D

 

[hamhurricane]

I haven't touched nootropics in a while though, unless you count bupropion, which I think is much better than any of these nootropics. :D

I would like to try Bupropion, it seems everyone likes it. And unlike most nootropics its likely to cause neurogenesis, or at least we will know in less than year because the technology used to image the brain has improved so much that scientists will be able to test the neurogenesis hypothesis in humans.

 

[blase deviant]

1.6 grams of oxiracetam daily, but that shit is expensive so I'm probably going to go back to piracetam or aniracetam (which is also expensive ).

And I feel sorry for all the people who buy pharmaceutical piracetam. I've seen that shit marked up so high it's incredible. I get mine for 750 grams for $20 + S/H. At least I think it's 750 grams, I'm 99.9% sure it isn't a kilo.

Would it be source sharing to post the link since it's legit, and I feel sorry for all these people getting ripped off?

 

[Xorkoth]

Nah, sorry... best you can do is mention how incredibly easy it is to find a bulk source online. I have a friend who will only buy the Nootropil pills, not bulk piracetam powder, and he pays something like 20 times the cost per dose as I do. I've tried both, and to be honest the bulk powder seems to work better for me than the pharmaceutical pills.

As for anir- and oxiracetam, if I were you I'd just stick to piracetam. I find aniracetam to not be very good... it seems to be counterproductive. And oxiracetam seems about the same as piracetam except a lower dose is needed. But seeing as how piracetam is so cheap, I wouldn't bother with the others.

 

[Jabberwocky]

aniracetam feels very weird, it comes on very strongly if you mix it with an oil and slug it down.

I did NOT like it - made me feel nervous and not energetic for work.

 

[DemonSeed]

I thought piracetam pills were already cheap and more convenient to take than powder you have to weight and put into capsules. How is the taste of piracetam powder? If you can get so much for such a cheap price, it sounds like a fair deal.

Does anyone know good message boards that focus on nootropics discussion? IMO, I think it would be great to see a whole section of drugs forums on Bluelight dedicated to nootropics. There is so much to be said about those particular substances. There is a forum for steroids discussion, why not for nootropics? That would be nice.

 

[kong]

I have decided to try piracetam and as I understand it I need to take something additional that contains choline?

What would folks recommend? Price, effectiveness, side effects ect....

 

[Jay123]

There is a forum for steroids discussion, why not for nootropics? That would be nice.

Good idea. Bluelight should definitely have a nootropics forum.

 

[MrM]

I thought piracetam pills were already cheap and more convenient to take than powder you have to weight and put into capsules. How is the taste of piracetam powder? If you can get so much for such a cheap price, it sounds like a fair deal.

Does anyone know good message boards that focus on nootropics discussion? IMO, I think it would be great to see a whole section of drugs forums on Bluelight dedicated to nootropics. There is so much to be said about those particular substances. There is a forum for steroids discussion, why not for nootropics? That would be nice.

If you buy Piracetam in powder for in bulk it is much cheaper than all the pills I've seen. I bought about 3 years supply for $70 ish including postage to the UK. I'm can't tell you where to find bulk piracetam so just google it.

Maybe you've seen pills cheaper than that but i haven't.

The taste is not pleasant but you get used to it. I just lick it off the spoon then drink some water quickly; there isn't an unpleasant aftertaste so the quicker it goes down the better. If you really don't like the taste then capsules or rizla bombs can be used instead, or disolve it in a small amount of cola and drink that.

I also like the idea of a nootropics forum. I'm not sure if there would be enough traffic to justify it but it would be worth finding out in my opinion.

 

[Ptah]

Good idea. Bluelight should definitely have a nootropics forum.

IMO BL has way too many overlapping forums as it is.

 

[Xorkoth]

If you buy Piracetam in powder for in bulk it is much cheaper than all the pills I've seen. I bought about 3 years supply for $70 ish including postage to the UK. I'm can't tell you where to find bulk piracetam so just google it.

Maybe you've seen pills cheaper than that but i haven't.

The taste is not pleasant but you get used to it. I just lick it off the spoon then drink some water quickly; there isn't an unpleasant aftertaste so the quicker it goes down the better. If you really don't like the taste then capsules or rizla bombs can be used instead, or disolve it in a small amount of cola and drink that.

I also like the idea of a nootropics forum. I'm not sure if there would be enough traffic to justify it but it would be worth finding out in my opinion.

Actually, the bulk piracetam comes with an indicator that says how much piracetam will fit in a 1/4 tsp, in the case of my current batch, 820mg per 1/4 tsp. So in this way I can easily weigh out doses. I just dissolve it in a bit of water and drink it... tastes not great, but not too bad either. It hits much more effectively as powder also... in the phamaceutical pill form, they seem to take longer to take effect.

Currently I'm looking at the cost of Nootropil (the pill) online, and I see $14.99 for 30 pills of 800mg each (24 grams). If only 800mg was taken each day (a very minimum dose especailly to start), that would be only 1 month supply for $15. Also online, I can buy, for even less, $10, get 250 grams of a bulk powder, which is literally 10 times the amount for 2/3 of the price. Or, I can get 700 grams for just $5 more, $20.

The choice is clear! My friend will only buy the Nootropil pills because he is obsessive comnpulsive and won't let himself trust "non-professional" looking medication/supplements. But he's spending literally 25 times or more per dose than I am.

 

[hamhurricane]

Oh an additional note on phenibut, I find it helpfull at doses MUCH lower than I see most people taking. The package my phenibut comes in reccomends taking 650mg which is highly sedating and would make it difficult for me to do homework etc.
I take about 300mg (or a little less) sublingually and think at the level it can almost achieve that subtle summer breeze valium euphoria which makes you feel like your not even on a drug but everything is going to be ok.
very helpful for valium withdrawl, but (as has been pointed out) it is habit forming in its own right.

 

[Xorkoth]

Yes, habit forming to be sure. Fortunately it does not have the same sort of withdrawal syndrome as benzos do. I have tended in the past to use phenibut consistently for a while and then at some point I tire of it or run out, and it doesn't bother me to stop cold turkey. It is probably telling though that I tend to take it most days once I start until I reach this point.

 

[DemonSeed]

Currently I'm looking at the cost of Nootropil (the pill) online, and I see $14.99 for 30 pills of 800mg each (24 grams). If only 800mg was taken each day (a very minimum dose especailly to start), that would be only 1 month supply for $15. Also online, I can buy, for even less, $10, get 250 grams of a bulk powder, which is literally 10 times the amount for 2/3 of the price. Or, I can get 700 grams for just $5 more, $20.

The choice is clear!

I looked up and found a source with those prices. The choice is definitely clear. Thanks guy for helping me saving LOT of money.