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Nootropics The Big & Dandy Nootropics Thread (Stack 2)

Hey everyone, didn't think this really belonged in CD so I thought I would put it here.

Tried my first dose of Noopept today, my god what a wonderful thing. For a solid 8 hours I felt like I had the best cup of coffee in my life without the jitteriness/anxiety that follows. I felt great all day, very confident and like I could just do anything my mind wanted it to. Very keen to see the long term benefits it will bring me.


My question is; is it safe to take nootropics with drugs? Specifically I want to know is, if I take 30mg of noopept in the morning as I get up, is it safe to smoke bud or drink at night after dinner? Is there any negative reactions I should watch out for?

Or should I just throw in "off days" where I don't take noopept and smoke/drink that day instead?


Keen to hear your thoughts, peace & love x
 
I am not sure about noopept specifically, but the racetams combine with drugs in different ways. I have not noticed much of a difference with cannabis, other than maybe making for a clearer headspace. I have heard some people say that drinking on racetams produces a very dirty feeling, while others say it makes for less hangover. They can combine with varying effects with psychedelics. I have had trips where they are wildly potentiated, much, much stronger than usual, and I have also had trips where they were not potentiated at all. Finally, nootropics seem to greatly reduce the effects of dissociatives.
 
Thanks heaps Xorkoth, I thought it's probably not the best idea to take both in one day (even at different times) but it's reassuring to know nothing seriously major is gonna go wrong, cheers :)
 
Like I said I can't speak for 100% sure on noopept but I believe it to be true for that one as well. As far as cannabis, I don't think you should be worried.
 
@Xorkoth

Funny, I hadn't thought of it at the time, but using IDRA with dissociatives seemed to have greatly diminished their effects. Even using Piracetam on a 3rd plateau DXM trip (360mg, precisely) allowed me to hole (granted I was using nicotine as well, which strongly potentiates dissociatives), but on IDRA, I thought I had developed a massive tolerance. Around 600mg of DXM with IDRA and no hole; in fact, I was barely into the 1st plateau, with only physical and mild mental effects manifesting themselves (dissociation from body, but little perceptual changes otherwise.) Using the same amount later, and in polisterex form at that, I was able to hole quite easily. Very irresponsibly, I was tripping in public in the most inappropriate setting imaginable - given my "tolerance" from earlier, along with the numerous claims of the polisterex form being "weak" and "impossible to trip on," I stupidly decided to down the entire bottle of Delsym. A most regrettable experience, but it taught me one thing - IDRA weakens dissociatives very significantly! I'll test again with MXE (still legal where I live, fortunately) to confirm it was indeed the IDRA.
 
Noopept

Not a psychedelic, but I feel like PD is best. Feel free to move it/merge it/whatever.

I recently ordered 10 grams of noopept & 30 grams of piracetam.

I have been taking the noopept, have not opened the piracetam.

This is my fourth day on it. Saturday it arrived with a "10-15 mg scoop". I took one scoop with no effect, then had another, in a couple half scoop doses that I spread out over the night, trying to get an effect. Sunday I had 1-2 scoops at morning and evening and have been continuing 2 doses a day.

Yesterday, my milligram scale arrived and I've started weighing. It seems that my scoop might be smaller than 10-15 mg, or I could be scoping poorly. Anyway, I prepared some ~30mg parachutes with my scale last night and bombed one this morning.

I've really had no or little effect. I feel like I noticed something last night, when I had ~10mg in my gums, but feel this was placebo...

From what I've read, noopept seems to have an immediate effect. Does this vary? Might it build over time? How much do you dose? Should I try 50mg? Give it time? I will probably try the piracetam...

I should also mention that I have been smoking weed regularly. Could this be a problem?

My noopept seems legit, definitely a strong chemical taste. Interesting sweet chemical smell... packaging/supplier seems cool. Don't really think its a problem with the product.
 
The scoop is tiny and red with a long handle. The scoop is like a pin head. It seems like it would be 10-15 milligrams like they said, but doesn't match up with my scale. Maybe its the scale, idk. It won't read one scoop...
 
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Nootropics don't give you a high, it's more like you notice in the way you handle stress, especially mentally.

I merged your thread into the Big and Dandy.
 
I know they don't give you a high. I'm looking for improved memory, dream recall, focus and/or motivation.

[Edit:] Oh thank you, Xorkoth. I didn't notice the second part about you merging it... :)
 
Okay I see, sorry for assuming. I do find that it takes a little time for the benefits to build up, and also to become used to the effects, sort of. I noticed it got more noticeable when I'd be trying to figure something out at work (I am a computer programmer so there are intense things to think about sometimes), and also as I had taken it more. Give piracetam a try, I started with that, I haven't tried noopept but piracetam was good. Subtle but good. My favorite nootropic is hydergine (ergoloid mesylates). Kinda expensive and inconvenient to get though (from Europe). It was by far the best.
 
No worries :)

Okay. Thanks for the input. I guess I'll give it some time and just see how it goes. I will also give the piracetam a try...probably take that instead of evening Noopept...

Maybe part of the problem is that I haven't been doing anything that requires much skill.

I'll have to look into hydergine too.
 
Yeah I was pretty depressed when I started taking hydergine, and it helped a lot. I haven't taken it probably since 2007 or maybe even 2006.
 
That's cool that it helped you with your depression :) I'm assuming/hoping things are good, since you say it was a while back?

I wouldn't mind some help with that sort of thing.

I tried ~1 gram of piracetam, just BTW... Thinking/hoping I might be noticing a bit of something. Will likely increase dosage by a bit (by 200-500mgs...), though kind of feel like I need to just stay on a steady dose for a while just to see. eh.
 
Does anyone have any experience with adrafinil? I know it's a prodrug of modafinil which seemed to do wonders for my mother's chronic fatigue syndrome. I've been gifted a two gram sample along side a bit of noopept. Would it be advisable to use a combination of the two as an alternative to stimulant based study aids? Lastly, would one run into any problems taking mxe ~8 hours after consuming the adrafinil?
 
I don't know about the MXE (I am guessing it would be alright), but let me know how the adrafinil goes... I've been curious about it. I've had modafinil before, but adrafinil is supposed to be a little different.
 
So I haven't touched my noopept in a week or so. It's in a jar and its pure powder.

It has developed an odd smell...like its going bad or something... I feel like it has a hint of garbage to the scent now. It has the normal scent with like garbage added (sorry I don't know what else to compare it to). What the fuck? Anyone experience a change in smell? Could it be unsafe to ingest now?

It also seems to be more clumpy.

I just store it in the jar in a cabinet if that matters.

I'm thinking moisture. I don't know why it would be unsafe now, but I figure it doesn't hurt to ask.
 
I've really been studying and reading up on racteams. There's really a few I'd love to give a try in the way of my anxiety, a motivation syndrome, and depression. My top wish-list for racetams would be: Aniracetam, Piracetam, Phenibut (as a nootropic to increase GABA for anxiety), and Noopept bc it's classic.

Right now I'm using: 150mg Suntheanine/pure L-isomer theanine, d-isomer has annoying side effects + GABA + 1000mg NALT/N-acetyl-L-tyrosine + L-glutamine to increase GABA and promotes conversion of L-tyrosine to L-DOPA> DA and NE, 5-HTP + B6 and B12 complex + 1500mg L-lysine (somewhat for valium and gabapentin potentiation, currently in Methadone detox) and GABAergic/barbituate properties + 500mg Chelated Mg + DMAE + Gingko Bilboa + Bilberry extract + %15 DHA from Omega-3-Fish-Oils + Biotin + Choline +Inositol + Vitamin C + Bacopin (bacopa extract) + L-pyroglutamic + Grape skin extract and Activin (grape seed extract) + Coffee and cannabis.
 
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