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The Big & Dandy N,N-DMT Extraction Thread - Elves are watching

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SWIM is going to be getting the last thing (Naphtha) he needs soon and is planning on following the general guidelines of NOMANS TEK for his first extraction. (With the exception of the ammonia wash)
Using 50g MHRB : 50g Lye : 750ml water and 60~80ml naphtha.

SWIM has read many different variations of the Straight to Base methods and needs a little clarification before starting.

1.) SWIM doesn't know if he should evaporate it half way (more or less?), then freeze.

2.) How long until I know it has been in the freezer long enough? I know I will see crystals, but is there a point that is TOO much time?

3.) Could I put the collection jars in an ice filled cooler rather than my freezer?
Would that crack the jars?

4.) Since I will be using Lye, what is the best type of Mixing Jar? (Mason jar, 2 Liter Coke bottle, Milk Jug, ANY of them?)

5.) What would be the best type of mixing spoon? Metal, wooden, etc.?)


I am sorry if this comes off as unorganized/underdeveloped. It is 1 am, New Years..

I just want my hard work to pay off.
Thank you very much
 
Hey Phluphy, I can help, i got the know how

1. You can stick it straight into the freezer, no evaporation needed
2. If you have a extremely cold freezer, it should be good after round 15 hours, but if your freezer isnt as cold, your going to want to max it out and leave it in for a while longer, a day+. It cannot be in there too long
3. This would work and would not crack the jars, but it will not be as cold. lots of salt and some water should be added to keep it very cold.
4. Glass ONLY. A mason jar will be jar too small for 50g of MHRB and equivalent other ingredients. If u dont have a large glass jar, you can go to the store and pick up a large jar of pickels (the REALLY big jar) for about 6 dollars.
5. Use a long metal spoon, wooden spoons would be ruined and permanently stained purple-black.

I hope this helps alot!
 
1. I've never evaporated it before so not sure.
2. Either no more crystals are forming or its been over 24 hours.
3. I guess you could but when I tried using jars it was way more annoying.
4. You definitely need to use hppd plastics 2 or 4 soo milk jugs are fine but 2 liter definitely isn't.
5. I'm not sure what kinda spoon you should use.
 
Yes, very much so..Thank you.
And one question I should have put up there is how many times can Naphtha be reused?
 
I have question to users.
DMT strong influence on the heart?
I take a beta blockers ( propranolol ) I have also tendention to Panic Disorder.
My question.
Can i get DMT with beta beta blocker ?
I taken propranolol with 2C-x, DOx and tryptamines and I dont have any trouble.
DMT most increase a blood pleasure that true?
Please help me :)
 
On occasion I'll take 5mg propranolol before blasting off on DMT. Seems to reduce pre-trip anxiety, and also effectively lowers blood pressure during the experience. It's certainly not contraindicated. :)

If you're worried about blood pressure, I'd recommend taking 10 mg about 40 minutes before blasting off. I wouldn't take much more though. If you dull your body's response to the DMT too much, I think it takes away from the exciting rush of the blast off.
 
Is this suppose to be the DMT?

I just did a Straight to Base extraction and I have my pull jars in the freezer. After a few hours they have precipitated white clusters. Is this suppose to be the DMT?

It doesn't look very crystalline. Should I just leave it in longer??
 
Yes, it can form white clusters; mine did. Leave it in the freezer for a couple days.

When you take it out, carefully drain the naphtha into another container, leaving the crystals on the side of the jar. Aim a fan at the opening of the jar to dry out the inside of the jar. When it's dry, scrape and gather all the white stuff onto a piece of glass and let it evaporate more. You can put it in a vial after that.

It should be fine, just leave it in for a couple days.
 
Yes, it can form white clusters; mine did. Leave it in the freezer for a couple days.

When you take it out, carefully drain the naphtha into another container, leaving the crystals on the side of the jar. Aim a fan at the opening of the jar to dry out the inside of the jar. When it's dry, scrape and gather all the white stuff onto a piece of glass and let it evaporate more. You can put it in a vial after that.

It should be fine, just leave it in for a couple days.

Personally, I would advise against using a fan for two reasons:
- Using a fan will vaporize the remaining Naphtha faster. This will result in a dramatic drop in temperature.
- The fan will blow fresh air into the container. Unless the air at your place is very dry, this will bring moisture into the jar as well.
- Coldness + Moisture = disastrous for your fresh DMT.

I would drain the Naphtha like PepperSock said, but scrape like mad onto a piece of filter-paper after the draining is done. Then cover the jar with another filter-paper and let stand upright until dried naturally. Then scrape the remainder.

Stay safe!
 
Ive never heard of fans vaporizing DMT.
Perhaps im misunderstanding you, evaporate the DMT maybe?

And if you meant evaporate isnt that the entire goal? The fan will only speed up the process.

Anyway, ive never had any problems using a fan to dry the naphtha.

Pluphy Phlu, yes the white clusters are DMT.
Enjoy.

im going to merge this with the DMT extraction thread.
 
mandelbrots just saying that having the jar open still while it is cold will cause moisture to condense and thus get the DMT wet with H2O. My solution to this is after pouring off the naphtha, close the jar again until it warms to room temp and then fan dry.
 
mandelbrots just saying that having the jar open still while it is cold will cause moisture to condense and thus get the DMT wet with H2O. My solution to this is after pouring off the naphtha, close the jar again until it warms to room temp and then fan dry.

That's what I meant. Except the use a fan in the presence of most non-polar solvents, Naphtha included, will make the temperature drop as well, probably by 15* C at least, even with small amounts of NP-solvent present. Y'know, same effect as when one licks his/her finger and sticks it in the air to feel where the wind is coming from?

I'd rather forgo on the last traces and use those for the next extraction, than chance moisture in the batch: it can and will degrade the rest of the batch when crops are combined and stored.

(But anyway, I'm an incredible nit-picker when it comes to chemistry: the not-such-inclined need not heed me!)
 
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Naphtha doesn't evaporate nearly quick enough I wouldn't think to cause such a large temp drop. Anyway this temp drop wouldn't matter so much once the jar is up to room temp. I've had abosolutely zero problems after just letting the jar warm up naturally to room temp, batches of crystals remain white, pretty, tasty, and potent for months and months.

Though I enjoy the aesthetic beauty of the crystals that remain after evaporating the solvent when they have not been scraped up. All a matter of preference though it doesn't make a different to the quality of the product aside from appearance.
 
I have always put my naptha/DMT solution in the freezer until the naptha turns clear and the white clumps are on the bottom (the naptha turns cloudy when it first gets cold. this is the dmt coming out of solution)

Once it's clear, I just strain it through a coffee filter and leave the filter out to dry. It usually dries in about an hour and I am left with a fluffy yellowish powder. This has never let me down and saves a lot of evaporation time and unnecessary vapors.

If I want the yellow crystals, that's easy enough to do by recrystallizing. But I usally don't feel it necessary
 
i plan on doing this...



Required Items
Agents
- Any amount of MHRB (preferrably 100+g)
- Roebic Drain Cleaner (Basic Lye)
- VM&P Naptha (Non-Polar Solvent)
- Distilled Water
Tools
- Turkey Baster
- Stainless Steel Utensil
- Glass Pie Dish
- Quart Jars with Lids
Note: You will need one quart jar for each cup of mhrb powder (100g of MHRB is about 1 cup powder).

Step 1 Prepare Bark:
1) Break and twist up the MHRB by hand into as small pieces as possible,
no need to hurt your hands. Use plyers if the bark is tough.
2) Put a handful of the broken up MHRB into the blender to turn it to
powder.
3) Empty the powder from the blender into a bowl or large measuring cup
and repeat blending until all of the powder is ready.

Step 2 Mix Jars:
4) First, add two cups of distilled water to each empty quart jar.
Note: Put on goggles and rubber gloves for this part...
5) Add three tablespoons of Lye to each jar.
[All of the jars should be about half full of black liquid now.]
6) Stir the liquid gently with the stainless steel utensil.
7) Slowly and gently add 1 cup of mhrb powder to each jar.
Be careful not to splatter or spill.
Stir the powder gently until it is absorbed into the black liquid.
9) Wipe the tops of the jars and put the lids on, then shake violently.

Let the jars sit for a minute, then add about 300ml of Naptha to each Jar and shake, then let sit for 2-3 hours. Then syphen off the Naptha using the Turkey Baster into the glass Pie Dish, being extremely careful to get only the clear Naptha and no black gunk (lye). Then add more Naptha, shake, let sit another 2-3 hours and then syphen again to increase yields. Meanwhile the glass Pie Plate will be filled with nearly pure DMT crystals once the Naptha evaporates completely.










or idk whether to use this one








Break 1-Pound of Mimosa Hostilis rootbark into 2" pieces and grind it all up in a glass-topped blender, a little at a time.
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Polar Extraction: Premix in an empty 1-Gallon plastic jug: 1-Quart White Vinegar & 3-Quarts Water. Put the ground up Mimosa in a 3-Liter crockpot, then fill it with the water-vinegar solution. Stir well and turn it on "high". After 2 hours, remove the crockpot ceramic liner, hold the lid on slightly offset, and pour off most of the liquid into a 1-gallon wide-mouthed glass or stainless container. Add the remaining water-vinegar solution to the crockpot again. Stir well and turn it on "high". After 2 hours, remove the crockpot ceramic liner, hold the lid on slightly offset, and pour off all of the liquid into the same container again. Discard the rootbark fiber and save the two combined extractions in the 1-gallon container. Allow the vegetable particles in the extraction in the 1-gallon container to settle to the bottom overnight. Then pour off the liquid into an empty 1-Gallon glass wine jug, being careful not to pour off any of the vegetable sludge at the bottom. Discard the sludge and keep the contents of the wine jug.
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Basification: Premix in advance a solution of: 5 Tablespoons (63grams) of Sodium Hydroxide ("Red Devil" lye) with 1-Pint of WARM Water. Stir well. Slowly add this solution to the wine jug, then cap the jug. Gently tilt the wine jug back and forth for 1 full minute to mix the contents.
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Nonpolar Extraction: Add 250ml of (Ace Hardware)VM&P Naptha to the wine jug. Add exactly enough warm water to the jug to raise the liquid level to an inch below the top, then cap the jug. Gently tilt the wine jug slowly back and forth for 5 full minutes to mix the contents. Allow the jug to sit undisturbed on a table for at least 4 hours. There should now be two layers visible in the jug, a lower dark one and a smaller clear one on top filling the neck of the jug. Use a glass turkey baster to suck up the top clear layer into a pint mason jar. Be careful not to suck up any of the lower brown/black layer into the mason jar.
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Freeze-precipitation/wash: place the sealed mason jar in a FREEZER for 3 days to precipitate the crystals. Prepare a filter setup by placing a funnel into a quart mason jar and putting a small coffee filter paper into the funnel. Shake the naptha in the mason jar strongly to stir up all the crystals at the bottom and quickly pour while still very cold into the funnel for filtering. Impure yellow-white DMT crystals will be seen on the coffee filter paper. Allow the crystals to completely dry out on the filter paper in the funnel. Premix a wash solution by mixing equal parts of Distilled Water and NON-SOAPY clear Ammonium Hydroxide(Ace Hardware Janitorial Strength Ammonia) into a pint container. Slowly pour 100ml of the wash solution over the crystals (still in the filter paper) to wash them. Remove the filter paper from the funnel, spread it out flat and allow the crystals to COMPLETELY dry out. You will now have 2-1/2 grams of white crystal DMT. At least 50 strong doses. Mix it with some parsley and smoke a little in your favorite pipe!







the first one seems easier
 
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