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The Big & Dandy N,N-DMT Extraction Thread - Elves are watching

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Cloudy said:
Where should I dispose of my NaOH, rootbark mixture? Neutralize with HCl then toss down the toliet or outside? What about the naptha?
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good question, the NaOH should be neutralized with a fairly weak solution of HCL. Add it slow, im not sure if it will get hot.... But it will just form NaCl Salt water mixed in with some rootbark remains....

Its neutral at that point, it will kill off your grass from the salt probably so i would go toilet or something....

naptha, you could just let it evaporate off or pour it in something that won't shatter, melt, or burn, and throw matches at it....

And i may soon find myself with some DMT.... And i think i will facilitate DMT finding other people... I have an urge to go to a festival over the summer, load a pipe with a lot of DMT and just walk around finding people who seem like they could appreciate what i am offering and let them take a few hits without asking them for any repayment.
 
depends on what sort of pipes you have....

but just in case, its simple to neutralize, you could just pour vinegar into it....
 
Id just dispose of it without bothering to neutralize it. NaOH is used for cleaning sink pipes and toilets anyway. I get my drain cleaned everytime I do an extraction. Its just a bonus :)
 
you bring up a good point.... i guess standard pipes can survive strong bases pretty easily... forgot about that.
 
Put my naphtha in the freezer an hour or so ago and I can already see crystals forming!

Hooray for me!
 
Might start an extraction in the next hour or two. I was happy with the results before, white crystals, and I'm hoping it'll be the same this time. A larger yeild would be nice (.9% was what I had last time).
 
heh yea a larger yield is always nice, but .9% is still a very good yield


but just keep puuulling..just keep puuulling.. just keep puuulling
 
I was just wondering if Sodium hydroxide & Xylene extraction was considered safe.
The end result will be smoked.
And While not diccusing sources, merely curious about success... are the majority of online vendors considerd to be selling some fake MHRB?

I heard it was pretty common and thought id ask the experts.
I dont want to do a solvent extraction of some unknown plant thats been mis-sold to me.
 
hey guys!

started an extraction and fucked sth up... :!
I mixed up 0.1 und 0.01ml (don't ask how....) and therefore there's ten times too much naphta in the first wash.
do you think the crystals will precipitate under those circumstances? (I don't..)

I think of evaporating it down to a proper amount with a hair dryer. (then mix with 2nd and 3rd wash, then freezer.)

does that sound like a good idea?



thanks for your help! :)
 
I was just wondering if Sodium hydroxide & Xylene extraction was considered safe.
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Sounds like a standard extraction to me. No extraction is exactly "safe" though, take the proper precautions (goggles are a must).
I dont want to do a solvent extraction of some unknown plant thats been mis-sold to me.
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I would have thought it'll be pretty obvious if the final product isn't DMT, spice has a distinct fragrance.
I think of evaporating it down to a proper amount with a hair dryer. (then mix with 2nd and 3rd wash, then freezer.)
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Sounds pretty risky to me, why not use a warm water bath? It doesn't take long.
 
Too much naphta shouldnt be of much concern. It just takes longer time to evaporate. If the only difference from the procedure is that you used too much solvent, then it should be no problem. But it will take about 5-10 times as long to evaporate it off.

I was just wondering if Sodium hydroxide & Xylene extraction was considered safe.
The end result will be smoked.
And While not diccusing sources, merely curious about success... are the majority of online vendors considerd to be selling some fake MHRB?
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NaOH and xylene extraction would be a good choice IMO. Just try not to inhale too much of the xylene as it is toxic. Use gasmask and do it under heavy ventilation if possible. At least with some ventilation.

I dont think the majority of vendors sell bunk. Of course I cant mention sources, but the big vendors selling bark should be legit.
 
Xylene smells awful. I don't know what to do with the stuff. I've had a chaliponga extraction waiting for a few weeks, I think it's too cold outside to evaporate the xylene, and I sure as hell don't want to evaporate that shit inside the house...

BTW, there are some vendors which sell, if not exactly bunk, sub-par bark which doesn't give optimal results...
 
chora said:
I was just wondering if Sodium hydroxide & Xylene extraction was considered safe.
The end result will be smoked.
And While not diccusing sources, merely curious about success... are the majority of online vendors considerd to be selling some fake MHRB?

I heard it was pretty common and thought id ask the experts.
I dont want to do a solvent extraction of some unknown plant thats been mis-sold to me.
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Xylene will pull much more than just DMT. Its a very strong non polar solvent and usually the one used to pull "Jungle spice."
Your product will be okay to smoke, just warning you there will also be other alkaloids in the spice other than DMT. It should be perfectly safe though.

All the MHRB ive ever seen has been real and of good quality.

johannes kreisler said:
I think of evaporating it down to a proper amount with a hair dryer. (then mix with 2nd and 3rd wash, then freezer.)

does that sound like a good idea?

:)
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Thats what i would do.
 
Solipsis said:
Good luck! :)

Well I was really starting to worry about the naphtha heating because DMT vaporizes at 60-80 degrees C and the solvents boiling traject should be around that depending on the exact hydrocarb constituents... When it hit me that that could be the reason of low yields the last time or times I had already reduced till a drinking glass' worth or less - like half...

But after returning from Sweden and taking a look in the freezer its like chockful of white crystals - I'm like raving over here haha! Finally after all the effort a substantial product of probable quality (although quality has never really been the issue even with orange waxy stuff, only a bit). YAY!

Some leftover aqeous phases from last times were also extracted again at higher pH...

Maybe I'll split my next extraction and evap one part with boiling off and let the other just stand in open air, see what the difference in yield is.

And yeah the 1000 ml is crazy I messed it up it seems - lesson to watch it next time.

lovey doveys and whitey lighteys to all of you.

A white christmas already? lol :D
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Solipsis, are you saying you successfully distilled and reclaimed naptha and the DMT stayed put? I hope this is true, because I'd love to do that.
 
Well, my yield was again quite low (600 mg from about 200 g bark plus leftover acidic barkwater) so I am absolutely not going to do it again. By the way... blowing wind over a watchglass with crystals that were a little wet after filtration really speeded things up, I have never had such odorless DMT - well normally its just a tad solvent-y...
I wonder though, if its not just better to evaporate everything instead of freeze precipitation. Of course you get a more pure result but I heard the orange stuff actually defers pyrolysis giving it a more efficient vaporization. But then again, the plant fats could be a little harsh to smoke.
 
I like to evaporate it all off. Then add the least amount of warm naptha necessary to put it all back into solution. Then freeze precip.
 
jamaica0535 said:
depends on what sort of pipes you have....

but just in case, its simple to neutralize, you could just pour vinegar into it....
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Neutralizing a large amount of a high-pH solution is gunna be a very exothermic (heat producing) reaction; add vinegar (or HCl, which would be more effective because it fully dissociates) slowly in small amounts. Don't want any accidents to happen. :)
 
eh either way both vinegar and HCl will fully dissociate in a strongly basic solution.

If it's possible and you don't have acidic solutions lying around try to dilute basic solutions by 10 and then down the drain...can do it in part I suppose. That's how I've always been taught. Will save money too so that you're not having to acidify a ton of pH 14 solutions.
 
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