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The Big & Dandy N,N-DMT Extraction Thread - Elves are watching

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Test your naphtha out by pouring a sample size on a plate and letting it evap, if it leaves any residue it could contain other things and be impure. I would try to recrystalize that, it looks like you may have gotten some of the mimosa lye solution in your pull
 
I would say to warm up some Naphtha in a hot water bath then pour this all in, stir around, separate the naphtha and whatever things are not soluble in it, and freeze precip again
 
Yeah ^ I did this and ended up with much cleaner product - that rusty looking stuff I got off one of my first pulls.

TOday I took a pull out the freezer and I myself had a bit of basic mimosa solution still at the bottom, which I hadn't noticed pre-freeze...so I poured off most of the solvent and then syringed the basic layer out the bottom, and dripped it out til I was left with just naptha again.
 
hmm.
the third pull has been sitting in the solution for 30min now and is hardly distinguishable from the mhrb/lye. it's that dark!
I think I'll add the third(and fourth) pull and try a recrystallization or one of the teks mentioned here: https://dmt-nexus.com/forum/default.aspx?g=posts&t=12636
imo so far the yield is sick anyway so I have some room for experimentation... :)


@GratefulFloyd: tested the naphta before starting the extraction. it's clean.
and it's probably not mimosa-solution either as I left quite a bit of naptha in the container to reduce this possibility. also the brownish naphta was clear...
 
im clueless. i dont know where to start. i wanna do dmt. there is no chance of getting it where i live. i have a moderate understanding of chemistry. could someone point me in the direction of making some legit, clean dmt?
 
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I'm at the end(hopefully) of my first extraction and I was hoping somebody could field a question. I just did a STB in 2 batches, both 112 grams of MHRB. I separated the naptha using a infant nasal aspirator syringe. When I was done and was cleaning my tools, I noticed that the rubber tip of the syringe seemed softer that it was when I had started. My concern is that perhaps the material that it was made of was corroded by the naptha? Is it possible that this would leave a residue in my crystals? My first batch has mostly evaporated leaving an oily yellow material, the other batch is freeze precipitating currently, 4 hours in.
What are anybody's thoughts on this? Would doing a recrystalization using xylene fix the problem, if there is a problem?

Thanks for your thoughts

Add: As I've thought, what seems more likely that the tip touched the MHRB/lye solution. Still, I'd appreciate some feedback here.
 
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madswagga said:
im clueless. i dont know where to start. i wanna do dmt. there is no chance of getting it where i live. i have a moderate understanding of chemistry. could someone point me in the direction of making some legit, clean dmt?
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I'm sure *making* DMT is quite a project in organic chemistry, but *extracting* it from a plant is quite easy. Mimosa hostilis root bark is the most popular source thanks to its relatively high ratio of DMT to plant fats. The simplest method is called straight-to-base.

Here's a link to a guide on DMT Nexus. It's not the one and only way to do it but it's a good starting point to understand the process. If you have any specific questions, someone here can almost certainly answer them.

The chemistry behind it is quite simple: DMT in its natural salt form is soluble in water, but DMT freebase isn't. So, you basify some water with sodium hydroxide (lye) and add the DMT carrying plant matter; this converts the DMT salts to DMT freebase and causes it to precipitate out of solution. You then mix in naptha, which DMT freebase *is* soluble in, to collect it. Siphon off the naptha, either evaporate it or chill it to precipitate out the DMT freebase and voila!
 
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I recently acquired this nice little mushroom pipe. The bulb of the mushroom is rather large and hollow. I was wondering if I could funnel some DMT crystals into that little bulb, flame the bottom of the glass like crack pipe, vaping the DMT, and inhale like a normal pipe hit. Would this work effectively?

looks similar to the middle piece:

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Hey I had a question about an extraction guide and was looking for some help.

https://www.dmt-nexus.com/doc/vortex_dmt_extraction_tek_bklt.pdf

I'm confused about step 3
Use 100 or more ml (as much as you want) of room temperature naphtha per 250 grams of dry weight root bark being extracted and mix the solvent into the aqueous soup by hand using a non-reactive utensil such as stainless steel for 30 minutes at a time at room temperature to absorb the DMT alkaloid, extracting the watery mix with naphtha the same way at least three or more times over with fresh solvent each time to absorb and pull out the majority of the alkaloid in under two hours. Separate and save the naphtha from the basified mix each time. When finished extracting the root bark evaporate the DMT containing fractions of clear to slightly yellow solvent together to net fairly pure DMT in just a few hours of work.
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I don't understand, what way is he referring too, do I siphon out the naptha, evaporate the extract, then mix it back in with the solution? Or do I evaporate the entire solution, and then mix the evaporated extract with the basified water?
About how long does the evaporation process take? I'd probably be leaving the naptha on a plate underneath a stove top fan.

And just to confirm, done properly, the 250g of finely ground root bark should result in ~2.5g of NN-DMT?

Thanks, and sorry for the bombardment of questions.
 
Evaportate the naphta.... And there is no way to tell how potent your bark is you could yield 0.8 grams or you could yield 4...... there is no real way to tell, I dont get too optimistic I always hope for at least .6%, since MHRB is on average around .6% alkaloids.
 
^ no. Don't evaporate your naptha...It's a waste, and can take ages, depending on whether you're using heavy naptha (you should use heavy naptha, as it attracts more DMT than light petrochemicals), then freeze precipitate the DMT from the Naptha - MUCH better for you and the environment as you can keep using the naptha - therefore all the DMT you can't quite precipitate makes the next pulls even more saturated, making it easier to precipitate!

WIthout a doubt do the 4 pulls with naptha that is clean, and about 100ml (then evaporate it until it starts to get cloudy with wispy DMT ghosts when you blow on the surface) - then combine them and put the jar in the freezer.

Then take it out the freezer a few hours later into the fridge for half an hour, then put in the freezer for another few hours./..continue this all day if you got a free day at home (rainy day??) til you go to sleep then leave it in the freezer til you wake up. You should have a bottom and lower sides of the jar CAKED with snowglobes...
 
Most people prefer to use a straight-to-base tek with MHRB since it's easier and one less thing to buy. I'm not sure if the acid step affects yields much; the main purpose as I understand it is to separate the DMT from plant fats, but there's not a lot of fatty stuff in MHRB to worry about anyway. I've always just done STB and then recrystallized if I need to purify further (dissolve the impure end product in as little naptha as possible - preferably warm naptha - and then freeze precipitate it).

I'm pretty sure it doesn't matter what base you use so long as it's highly basic - so pickling lime (CaOH) should work fine. Never tried it personally, though.
 
well, imagine you have ***enough*** of quite dirty dmt and decide to run a Na2CO3-wash over it. you dissolve the goodies in ~200ml of warm naphta.
then add the na2co3-solution and the stuff instantly looks like chai with milk.
after 2 more washes and after freeze prec. resulting in a low yield you can no more block out the fact that you made a mistake. (to x-check you run an extraction over the (DIRTY) washing-solution resulting in nice crystals)
-> the washing solution instantly cooled the dmt/naphta down to the point where the dmt precipated. :X

obviously you begin to wonder what would be the best way to get all the dmt out of the washing-solution. add some NaOH? cool down/evaporate solution?

advice is appreciated. :)
 
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Ohhh just wondering, as I've never done a wash before (only another freeze precipitation to clean the spice of gunk) and wanted to know exactly how it was done...but you say you do things oddly?
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Yeah I pretty much crafted my own STB extract after doing experiments with different amounts of washes/extreme agitation/ seeing how many naptha washes still contain DMT(I did 6 which still had some DMT in it). Anyways I have a Buncher filter so I use a metal baster to remove the naptha from a dish like this
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(its good for holding 1,000's of ml's of naptha) Then I scrape the crystals off the bottom of the dish into my filter then wash that with sodium carbonate.
 
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