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The Big & Dandy Music on Psychedelics Thread (Track #1)

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Phen music vs Tryp music

So I've been sampling 2c-e and 2c-t-7 lately and I've noticed that there is a distinct feel to these trips as compared with the tryptamine experience. I've come to associate phens more with a sort of brainy clarity and sharpness, like the technological virtual realities of sci-fi. The tryptamine experience, in comparison, is more archetypal, tribal, and organic. Not that phens and trypts can't get you to the same place, of course. I just mean to say they go about it in different ways. At least, this has been my experience and my understanding.

Being that I like to listen to music resonant with my state of mind, I've noticed an extension of this distinction in my taste of music during each experience. (I listen to Psybient music almost exclusively, but I'm interested if anyone has noticed this distinction in other genres as well.) While on 2c-e or 2c-t-7 I dig digital sharpness and acuity, fluid yet cybernetic melodies and grandiose movements, artists such as Asura, Abakus, and Zero Cult. Interestingly, I started exploring these artists as I started exploring phenathylamines, they are both a new frontier to me. On cid, mushrooms, or 4-ho-mipt I dig drums and flutes, tribal noises and vibrations-- artists like Ott, Shulman, Shpongle, and Entheogenic.

If anyone's interested, this is the my phen playlist as of late:
Shared Light, Abakus
A Whole New Way Of Looking At The Day, Abakus
Lost Eden, Asura
Indu, Abakus
Nightwalker, Abakus
Land & Freedom, Asura
Chemicalove, Zero Cult

And this is the cruz of my standard tryptamine playlist:
Zero Degrees, Shulman
Ra He'ya (Shulman Remix), Sub6
Ya Bouy, Omar Faruk Tekbilek
Rogue Bagel, Ott
Entheogenic, Microcondian
Entheogenic, Ju
Shpongle, A New Way To Say Hooray

So has anyone else noticed this distinction? Do other people listen to different music on phenathylamines and tryptamines?
 
I'm not familiar with most of the bands you've listed, I may have to give them a try though. I've just in the past year and a half gotten into electronic music (I struggled with being an instrumental purist for a while, ha ;)). Actually I've never heard of the genre Psybient even, sounds like something I might enjoy though.

I do get the distinction you're referring to with phens & trypts. I've definitely noticed the more "tribal," for lack of a better word, feel with trypts and the hyper-aware state i get on phens sometimes makes me feel as if i should be piloting a spaceship or something.

And shpongle is definitely tryptamine music for sure. Good post
 
Dude I totally know what you're talking about. I'm in the same boat you're in. I pretty much have all my techno in a few playlists.

First there's my 'psychedelic journeys' playlist, which is for really chilled moments or psychedelics. Stuff like carbon based life forms, solar fields, a lustmord and Robert rich cd, shulman, and indo. These are just perfect for things like mescaline, mushrooms and ayahuasca.

My 'shamanic' playlist just has more organic stuff. It starts with halycon+on+on just because that's the song that usher me into space my first ayahuasca session. Then there's more indo, something called tribal trance (didgeridoos and bongos and flutes) and then there are a
bunch of icaro's from a true ayahuascaro. This is the perfect playlist for ayahuasca.

Last but not least is 'my goodness!' which is a bunch of ridiculous psytrance for synthetics. Astral projection, infected mushroom, astrix, etc. I'd like to get more though as i don't have enough!

Oh ya, I'm also messing around with a DMT playlist. Since I find that a song has great influence on the trip I've been giving thought to songs of a varying nature. So far there's been an entheogenic song, soulhunter by dracul and gamma goblins pt. 2 by hallucinogen. Which is fucking demented by itself, imagine blasting off while that wonky stuff is going. Nuts.

Music=:)
 
DOB said:
phens & ergoloids are best for music,tryps arent bad but they dont have that sharp intelectual edge,that overanalyzing speed of amped up neurons.
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IMO music doesn't sound very good on mushrooms, it lacks the sound enhancement that you get from LSD and RC's.

But LSD is better than all IMO, I can actually forget what a song is called or who it is by and no recognize a song on LSD and it sounds amazing.

But on DOB I tend to get overwhelmed by sound itself(not the music itself) and have to always change the song. DOB annoys me with music, it's like as soon as I see that I am enjoying it then suddenly I'm not.

Such a weird drug.
 
doode i definitely dig this thread, ive noticed a lot of the same things with music in relation to tryptamines and phenethylamines!

psybient music is awesome, youve got a nice list here.

being a huge fan of most of the twisted music label, shpongle is naturally something I listen to whilst tripping, especially with tryptamines :) im excited to go see ott + shpongle in april!!!
 
ColinGibs said:
and the longer you hold that opinion, the farther it will ever be for you..
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What I mean is music doesn't really go with the mushroom trip for me.

For me Mushrooms are all about turning up the silence. Ambient music is okay, but anything trancy or rock'N'Roll seemed to be too "forcing".

One time I liked an Eagles song while mushrooming, but I think it was because we were in a car moving fast so the stimulation of seeing a road moving helped the music out.

I dunno, mushrooms just have that organic feeling where I shouldn't need anything like music distracting me from the rooted-to-earth feeling.
 
killo said:
IMO music doesn't sound very good on mushrooms, it lacks the sound enhancement that you get from LSD and RC's.

But LSD is better than all IMO, I can actually forget what a song is called or who it is by and no recognize a song on LSD and it sounds amazing.

But on DOB I tend to get overwhelmed by sound itself(not the music itself) and have to always change the song. DOB annoys me with music, it's like as soon as I see that I am enjoying it then suddenly I'm not.

Such a weird drug.
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I agree about DOB, music always just seems to be way too much to deal with on DOB. Three Little Birds by Bob Marley is one of the few songs I like a lot on DOB, it's also good to play in case of a bad trip.

On acid music is great for me mostly due to synethesia. It allows me to taste the sounds and smell my emotions and such. Acid and music mix perfectly, I listen to a lot of The Beatles and Jimi Hendrix and Pink Floyd and Shpongle (although I quite dislike Shpongle's new CD, Nothing Lasts... is totally perfect for tripping). I love Hendrix on mushrooms. I also like some of Brian Eno's stuff on mushrooms. "Burning Airlines Give You So Much More" is a cool song for shrooming.

I prefer tryptamines to phenethylamines, with the exception of mescaline maybe. When I do DMT I usually play Shpongle, Botanical Dimensions is a perfect DMT song. I find that tryptamines are more visual then phenethylamines, and that they lend themselves more to music for that reason.
 
complacent orange said:
I've come to associate phens more with a sort of brainy clarity and sharpness, like the technological virtual realities of sci-fi. The tryptamine experience, in comparison, is more archetypal, tribal, and organic.
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I agree 100%. And a very eloquent way to put it! :)

IMO tryptamines are suited to sitting and drumming on a hand drum, very organic and primal music-making.

On phenethylamines, I can't hold a beat or a groove for shit but music SOUNDS orgasmic and incredible. Especially fast, complicated, futuristic amplified or electronic music (I prefer analog amplification personally-- space tuuuuubes :D).

LSD and music go together like peanut butter and bananas and honey, IMO. :D
 
IMO tryptamines are suited to sitting and drumming on a hand drum, very organic and primal music-making.
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Goa Trance = Perfect Music for LSD. It combines today's technology with the ancient hypnotic/shamanic beats and rhythms and ethnic melodies(the ones that are relating to like om and shit)

I am just sad that hardly anyone in the US has heard of it.


Dancing on Goa Trance is about as blissful as you can get on LSD using music, the other way is pure silence and meditation. Dancing is the active meditation and it's fucking wonderful when Goa Trance is pumping.
 
I just tried 2ci for the first time the other day and I was really particular about my music, it had to be psytrance and psybient or electronic sounds. I listened to Shpongle and 1200 micrograms in particular.

For me it's hard to say, because like someone else said I really don't enjoy music so much on mushrooms either. I don't dislike it, but it sounds muffled or something. Same goes with San Pedro.

LSD I can pretty much listen to anything and I really enjoy classic rock stuff.
MDMA I can pretty much listen to anything as well and i love doing drumming on it.

I haven't taken 2ce in quite awhile, I remember listening to Shulman and the Grateful Dead so I enjoyed stuff similarly to how I do on LSD.

For me, it really depends on the specific drug more than the broader category. Some of it may have to do with my mood going into the trip as well.
 
morbiddoctor said:
My 'shamanic' playlist just has more organic stuff. It starts with halycon+on+on just because that's the song that usher me into space my first ayahuasca session. Then there's more indo, something called tribal trance (didgeridoos and bongos and flutes) and then there are a
bunch of icaro's from a true ayahuascaro. This is the perfect playlist for ayahuasca.
Music=:)
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Where did you get a hold of those icaro's?! I would love to be able to listen to these. Like you say with DMT, music can have a huge impact on a trip. I keep hearing about how ayahuasqueros direct deep trips with songs, and it sounds like a truly beautiful experience, to have a mysterious voice guide you through a world of true hallucinations. I had a surprisingly immersive 2c-e experience and think I would have really found solace in such a thing.

Killo, I know what you mean about mushrooms and music. During far out trips I'm too into the sound of space itself to pay attention to something as orchestrated as produced music. However, I play around a lot with low doses, where I find music and psychedelic energy synergize nicely. Most of my music listening though is done in that world in between trips. :) Also, I wouldn't be surprised that people don't know about Goa in the US, where the idea is to get as far away from the soul as possible... That people don't know about it makes is special, the Tao says, "the fewer persons know me, the nobler are they that follow me". :)

And Roger&Me, I think you described the phen music experience really well. Music sounds amazing, but you can't groove to it. That is, the sensation is enhanced, but it is very much an external experience. Whereas on tryptamines, the barrier between the sensation and the senser is broken down. I've noticed this visually, too. t7 points out the beauty of nature, but not by way of dissolving the barrier by which I define it. Rather, the barrier gets played upon, decorated, if you will, with sparkling light and colors.
 
Morbid, I did the same thing about a month ago just by searching "ayahausca songs" with google.

Here's the best site I have found so far:
http://www.ayahuasca-wasi.com/english/icaros.html

On a good amount of smoked DMT, even sub breakthrough, some of these songs can be quite amazing. I also recommend you listen to Boards of Canada (it's probably been mentioned before in this thread) if you really want to have some beautiful trips. Though I strongly recommend you put all their songs on shuffle. For some reason when I listen to music I am even somewhat familiar with on DMT it's just not as magical or deep.
 
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