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The Big & Dandy Methoxetamine Thread - The 3rd Dose

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Would any chemists like to speculate on the stability of Methoxetamine?
I'd like to know how well it stores.
 
Just a little side note for everyone,

my dogs best friend has used methylone 5 times now. He used 300mgs yesterday after using the day before and had the same results as his first time. He fond this contrasting drastically from what I've read in trip reports.

He does take 5 htp daily, as well as a multi-vitamin.
 
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Hi :)
I adore ketamine and have a good supply for it but was recommended MXE by a lot of people as they were saying its better than K. I come asking about what a good newbies dose would be, I've read about 25-50mg but I have a ketamine tolerance (A big one :'( ) so would it be worthwhile to bump that up?

Also, I have mg scales as I love the 2c* drugs, but I was wondering what proportion of you carefully weigh out your doses, I'm getting the impression that you need to be much less careful with mxe, still careful obviously but I mean I spend like an hour weighing and reweighing my 2c* doses as I am paranoid, but I'm pretty confident in my eyeballing abilities
 
I would say 25mg is a pretty high starting dose for someone with no tolerance, 50 is definitely too high. That range would be plenty for someone with dissociative tolerance though.

You don't need to be accurate to 1mg, but definitely wise to know what you've had to the nearest 5mg. My rule of thumb is to know what you've taken to within 20% when you're dealing with low-moderate doses, and don't fuck about with errors on high doses.
 
Just to add my thanks to Atara, fantastic post, and to Fixed5217 for clearing things up!

There doesn't seem to be, as yet, a proper explanation (other than speculation) for the serotonin system interplay with Methoxetamine, but obviously all the evidence we have on this thread says something is going on, at least in some people's bodies.
 
Thanks for the advice Transform, I'll stick with 25mg's as a first time most likely. Orally that is.
Whats annoying is that my favourite thing about ketamine is the fast come-up, but I heard that MXE has a slow onset, even insufflated, is that correct?
I also assume that a nasal dose requires much less than oral, as with most drugs
 
yeah it can take 2 hours to reach the peak. it creeps up on you. one of the downsides to it. in the past ive made the mistake of getting impatient and dosing again, then ending up pretty fucked
 
LicktheShade said:
Thanks for the advice Transform, I'll stick with 25mg's as a first time most likely. Orally that is.
Whats annoying is that my favourite thing about ketamine is the fast come-up, but I heard that MXE has a slow onset, even insufflated, is that correct?
I also assume that a nasal dose requires much less than oral, as with most drugs
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Onset is roughly 20 minutes for insufflation. Same goes for sublingual and oral.

However onset is only about 5 minutes if plugged, and probably less for IM (certainly less for IV).


So if you're after the fast comeup, you can achieve it, but you'll need to get yourself a syringe.
 
Onset is typically first alerts at 15-20 minutes and peaking at around 90 minutes. The delay exists even up your nose, it's not like ketamine.

Opinions differ on the effectiveness of nasal dosing, most people seem to think sublingual and even oral are more effective. You'll need to try it and see. In any case 25mg is not going hurt you.
 
im really in the mood to do some mxe and watch a film or play ps3. i get so immersed in it, its amazing. feels like your part of it

one thing ive noticed on mxe is feeling connected to everything. ive had some really deep intricate conversations with people on this stuff, its awesome
 
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ColtDan said:
im really in the mood to do some mxe and watch a film or playing ps3. i get so immersed in it, its amazing. feels like your part of it

one thing ive noticed on mxe is feeling connected to everything. ive had some really deep intricate conversations with people on this stuff, its awesome
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MXE synergies lovely with first person shooters. Crack out the Killzone 3, sit right up to the TV screen (otherwise you'll go crosseyed :p) and enjoy some intense offline action.
 
I just sniffed a fat line of mxe and now I'm watching ferris buellers day out! I hope I get sucked in! Been sniffin throughout the day but only in antidepressant doses!
 
JSPete said:
MXE synergies lovely with first person shooters. Crack out the Killzone 3, sit right up to the TV screen (otherwise you'll go crosseyed :p) and enjoy some intense offline action.
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good idea :D


just remembered i still need to finish off assassins creed brotherhood. and red dead redemption, havent played on my ps3 for months. battlefield 2 would be wicked as well. i may try a fairly big dose of mxe tomorrow evening and see how it goes. start my alcohol and mephedrone fueled nights friday instead
 
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The impression I have built over the years is that psychiatric medicine is pseudo-science, and that the people who pass through the psychiatric treatment system are by and large treated as clusters of symptoms rather than people, and as a result they are treated badly.
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Oh it's much worse than that. Cannot recommend reading this http://www.amazon.co.uk/Against-The...3879/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1303936722&sr=8-1 highly enough. Exposes the whole "science" as a grotesque abuse of power in the unbalanced analyser/analysand relationship.

All approaches achieve a similar cure rate which means they are making it up as they go along and some people want to get better anyway.
 
i tend to do MXE quite anytime anywhere. Sometimes it makes me euphoric, sometimes emphathic, sometimes dizzy, sometimes sexy, sometimes crazy... but always nice. Combined with alcohol, food, mephedrone, 4-fa, AMT, Methylone 5-APB, whatever exept MDAI. It was always great. Still unresolved is the fact that MXE can induce bad physiological side-effects with serotonin release like high blood-pressure and tachycardia. Until now, i never felt in danger. It always felt managable to me.

But apart from that, where is the DOWNSIDE of MXE? Psychologically addictive? Of course! But wouldn't that be any "wonder medication"? I try so hard to find out. Every compound that i tried until now had a real downside that made me reduce its consumption. Methoxetamine did not (yet)! Will the Honeymoon ever end???

WTF is Methoxetamine?
 
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I apologise for being dismissive, however let me assure you I am not dismissive about the effect of mental illness on peoples' lives. I don't think it's a game and I don't think I said it was a game.

My attitude to mental illness is coloured by my relations with family members who have worked in psychiatric care. The impression I have built over the years is that psychiatric medicine is pseudo-science, and that the people who pass through the psychiatric treatment system are by and large treated as clusters of symptoms rather than people, and as a result they are treated badly. The problem being there is currently no objective test or proper neurological model for this thing we call schizophrenia and that the medicines used cause as many problems as they resolve, which would be expected from a practice based on unsound theory. So unless this picture is wrong, or unless things have drastically improved in the last, say, ten years, I tend to view statements about psychiatric conditions as being matters of controversy and not established fact.

I happily admit I know fuck all on this subject, I have just been in close proximity, for most of my life, to those who are involved in it.

I also do not like the use of the word "schizo" as it is pejorative and demeaning for those people who find themselves labelled with it.
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Ok, now i get the picture. I misinterpreted you and thought you had a certain naive view on mental disorders i once in a while stumble upon. And for me, "schizo" is just shorter. Nothing else. :)
 
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