The Big & Dandy Methoxetamine Thread - Hit #12 - Oh look, it's MXE o'clock

[DroneLore]

it didn't hurt, i could just feel the sensation of pressure. also i think i actually pooped yesterday, not today.

so is that dose wasted or will it eventually hit me?

 

[TheAppleCore]

For all of the drug flushers.

 

[burnone2]

I recently read from a separate resource that acetone washes may be used to get rid of some of the impurities in some of the mxe going around. Apparently mxe isn't soluble in acetone and the impurities tend to be soluble, so siphoning and letting the powder dry will increase purity. Can anyone clarify this?

 

[zirbeldude]

@dronelore:
I use an 2ml oral syringe and dissolve the mxe in 1,2 ml tap water.
I push the syringe in till the t-part of the syringe.

And yes you should be empty.

So next time take a good shit before you dose and don't forget to use lubricant.

Edit: i use a syringe that's very similar to the one in the picture. Is that an oral syringe?
(i don't live in an english speaking country. I just want to make sure we talk about the same)

 

[DroneLore]

Yes, looks just like the one i had. holds 5 ml, larger radius than a normal insulin syringe. i am prob the type of person that would have to do an enema in order for plugging to work. i just have luck like that lol

 

[zirbeldude]

A 5ml syringe is probably too long.
Try a smaller syringe or don't push it all the way in.

And you said that you did your business the day before.
Don't know if you really have to do an enema.
A regular shit before dosing should work.

I don't know.
If you try it again i wish you good luck.

 

[Disco Doctor]

Anyone come across a batch at the moment that is very crystally and tastes quite salty? It's not as easy up the nose and takes 2-3 times the dose of all the previous batches I've ever had over the last three years. The stuff I had always had was a very fine powder. This stuff, I put 100mg under my tongue and an hour later my wife didn't even realise I was on anything! Usually 60mg and I'm dancing around the precipice of the hole...

Anyone? Maybe depends on where it's produced?

Cheers

 

[Chocolate-Salad]

Anyone come across a batch at the moment that is very crystally and tastes quite salty? It's not as easy up the nose and takes 2-3 times the dose of all the previous batches I've ever had over the last three years. The stuff I had always had was a very fine powder. This stuff, I put 100mg under my tongue and an hour later my wife didn't even realise I was on anything! Usually 60mg and I'm dancing around the precipice of the hole...

Anyone? Maybe depends on where it's produced?

Cheers

The only batch I've ever gotten looked like salt but bigger crystals and less brilliantly white. Sort of translucent. Having no tolerance, 60 mg would have holed me pretty hard. I didn't have any issues with it.
Insufflation as is irritated my throat on the drip because of the large crystals. I would crush them up before hand.
Also with three years of use maybe you're growing tolerant and losing that magic.

 

[taco bell]

Anyone come across a batch at the moment that is very crystally and tastes quite salty? It's not as easy up the nose and takes 2-3 times the dose of all the previous batches I've ever had over the last three years. The stuff I had always had was a very fine powder. This stuff, I put 100mg under my tongue and an hour later my wife didn't even realise I was on anything! Usually 60mg and I'm dancing around the precipice of the hole...

Anyone? Maybe depends on where it's produced?

Cheers

You may have gotten an off batch of the crystally salty stuff but most people preffer the bright white salty kind by a large margin compared to the straight powder or off white grainy/sandy stuff, I've only gotten a good batch of powder once though and was a white slight grey biegeish color and had little tiny rocks here and there in it but was still really good, all the other times I've gotten the powder it was clumpy and weird smelling and would almost have to try and notice the effects then my lower back would start acheing. All the salty batches I've gotten have never tasted salty though.. But I've heard a few other people out there complain about salty looking mxe which makes me think that there might be a bunk batch going around because the normal bright white salty batch stands head and shoulders above the other kinds. Did you crush up the crystals before you snorted them? I noticed for me that helps because sometimes if you dont the crystals will fall out your nose or just end up stuck to snot in your lower nostril. And as much as some people swear by sublingual Its never hit me as hard as insufflating.

 

[Solipsis]

We do not condone batch and ID discussion of any kind on PD. Basically that all revolves around the question what is different about these varying appearances / tastes / qualities, etc and that boils down to ID discussion and speculation. Get your stuff tested or try the regional social & drug discussion fora on Bluelight where such discussion is considered less iffy.

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[lastest]

I haven't touched MXE (or 3-MeO-PCP, which I used pretty much interchangeably with MXE) since just before the UK ban, because the last time I imported it I was very nearly arrested and charged and I lost my job (it was under a temporary ban order at the time).

This time away from it has shown me how hopelessly addicted I was. I had been using it more and more frequently until it was just part of my evening routine. I do see why people don't understand what's so pleasurable or habit-forming about it, because it is very weird. But to me it became like wrapping myself up in a warm, safe blanket and hiding from the world. This feeling only started to be the overriding experience of the drug once I'd become very very accustomed to it - before that I saw it as a crazy journey through inner space to be enjoyed once in a while like LSD. But unlike LSD I also found a very profound anti-anxiety effect in it, and that's what ended up getting me hooked. Some nights I sit for quite a long time looking a the draw where I kept it, willing myself to take just one night off, but always with the thought "you know you're going to to it in the end, so just get it done", which I'd always give in to.

So now my supply is completely cut off (I'm not such an idiot to waste the second chance I've been given be the police by trying to get more) and I get a clear picture of how addicted I was - and still am, really. Why? Because I think about it and miss it terribly every single day. Of course I'm glad in many ways it's been taken away from me, but I'd walk across town and pay a lot of money for one more hit, no question.

 

[THCified]

^ It seems to be on par with opioids in terms of addiction, if not worse.

 

[TheAppleCore]

^ Especially for people that like to think, and see the world from a new angle. Someone in an earlier Big and Dandy thread said that MXE was "philosopher's heroin". I couldn't describe it better. It satisfies my philosophical / psychonautical interests, AND floods me with a rush of warm euphoria, which is why the MXE high is pretty much the most irresistibly attractive thing on the planet for me.

 

[Morkin]

^ what ROA & amounts are you using?

Been content with the social able & slightly giddy 30mg sublingual so far...

 

[lastest]

Someone in an earlier Big and Dandy thread said that MXE was "philosopher's heroin". I couldn't describe it better. It satisfies my philosophical / psychonautical interests, AND floods me with a rush of warm euphoria, which is why the MXE high is pretty much the most irresistibly attractive thing on the planet for me.

I don't think I could describe better either - a lovely body high along with profound, anxiety-free introspection and the ability to see yourself and the world in new and surprising ways. Those qualities, balanced so perfectly in this drug, is what kept me coming back for more. And more and more and more.

This new Diphenidine stuff (a non-hexylamine dissociative that a few UK experimenters have recently been able to get hold of) has an okay high and will straight-up hole you at 150mg oral, but having gone through a gram of it I feel that it completely lacks this perfect balance and is therefore very unlikely to be a replacement DOC/drug of addiction for me. There's just something very special about hexylamines that is much more complex than simple NMDA antagonism, and MXE is particularly good in this regard. I feel dopamine certainly plays a big role. Dipehedine is a DRI according to those selling it, but it certainly doesn't feel like one to me - if it does have an effect on dopamine then it is very weak compared to that delivered by the ketamine derivatives. In fact, my MXE cravings are more easily mitigated with use of ethylphenidate than diphenidine, which kind of proves my point.

^ what ROA & amounts are you using?

Been content with the social able & slightly giddy 30mg sublingual so far...

That was the sort of state I was aiming for in my daily use, I'd obviously go higher to hole but that remained an occasional thing for me. I'd use about 30mg intranasal, although the dose did obviously increase in line with my tolerance. By the end I wasn't weighing, or even eyeballing properly - I'd just dig it out of the bag with a knife and snort it right of the blade. I was even doing that with 3-MeO-PCP, although I was obviously digging out smaller amounts of powder with that.

 

[taco bell]

We do not condone batch and ID discussion of any kind on PD. Basically that all revolves around the question what is different about these varying appearances / tastes / qualities, etc and that boils down to ID discussion and speculation. Get your stuff tested or try the regional social & drug discussion fora on Bluelight where such discussion is considered less iffy.

Please heed our rules or risk having your post unapproved (= effectively removed from public sight) if it goes too far. Thanks!

Mybad about that theres just so much confusion and difference of opinions on the different appearances and effects of the different types of mxe I was just trying to help him out and get his take and experience on it.

 

[DroneLore]

^ It seems to be on par with opioids in terms of addiction, if not worse.

I'm not sure how useful such statements are. Ketamine has been known to be addictive for a while.

FWIW, I'd take a bag of dope over MXE any day. I don't know how comparable they really are.

But does it matter? Addiction is addiction. People can (and do) get addicted to anything.

 

[bluespeed]

...
But does it matter? Addiction is addiction. People can (and do) get addicted to anything.

Yeah but sorry, I hate this sentence, and it is usually said by people hooked on hard drugs. Of course people can get addicted to anything and it is true that some people can be more addicted to weed than heroin but that doesn't meant that all drugs have the same addiction potential. MXE is definitely one of those things which have extreme addiction potential.

 

[DroneLore]

I think the crux of the issue is addiction vs dependence. Some drugs are objectively more likely to cause a dependence (physical withdrawal) than others. Whether you are going to get addicted to coffee, heroin, or sex has more to do with you, your upbringing, environment and genetics than any of those things themselves.

I have not found a lot of info on NMDA antagonist withdrawal, at least nothing like the body of data that exists for GABA-ergic and opioid withdrawal.

I also feel the need to state the following:

1) I do not feel particularly in "control"
2) I am not saying MXE is not addictive

 

[THCified]

This...

I do see why people don't understand what's so pleasurable or habit-forming about it, because it is very weird. But to me it became like wrapping myself up in a warm, safe blanket and hiding from the world.

...is exactly as matching as this...

"philosopher's heroin"

...quote i also remember reading here.

From all the things i've ever taken, and god believe it was A LOT, i never ever experienced such a strong pull taking it again and again. And when someone says...

Ketamine has been known to be addictive for a while.

FWIW, I'd take a bag of dope over MXE any day. I don't know how comparable they really are.

But does it matter? Addiction is addiction. People can (and do) get addicted to anything.

...one must understand, that MXE is a substance that's "serving the needs" of both, those of an opiate "user" exactly as those appreciating NMDA-Receptor-Antagonists. It isn't the substance to end them all because people are just different, but the only other substances i always come back to are Tetrahydrocannabinol and Opioids.

And this is something, like lastest also said, that you really understand after becoming more and more accustomed to this substance. And i believe that as much as you think you're knowing it, you're wrong! In fact, you couldn't be more wrong thinking to be in control.

The only thing you can do is not taking it at all, or trying to take it as you'd take some LSD, or whatever heavy psychedelic there is. At best not often.

I have tripped countless times in the past years but especially those trips on MXE had some undeniable profound impact on my life. But in the end, it wasn't the substance changing something in my life, it was me. I, for myself, don't have any need blastin' myself day in and out, at least not anymore, but one must understand that it is exactly as possible probably having some serious insights, hence a possibility having a new outlook at yourself and your life, as totally screwing it!