The Big & Dandy Methoxetamine Thread: 8th dose, I can't sleep so why not?

[mexr]

Good point, I guess I'll try 50. Now I WON'T go over 50. If I still feel sober but I'm unable to move off the couch just laying there like a fucking vegtable with my same thought process, I'm never doing this shit again..

EDIT: Actually, now that think about it, I have done 60 mgs. 30 plus another 30 about 2 hours later. Didn't do anything significant exact keep the buzz lasting longer. I'll just try 50 from jump and see where that takes me.

Haha this is a perfect example of the way MXE shifts your thinking. It's got the dissociative trippyness mixed with a nice dopamine rush, don't be surprised if you end up redosing several times.

 

[TheAppleCore]

Good point, I guess I'll try 50. Now I WON'T go over 50.

Just curious, what makes you select 50 mg as your maximum acceptable dosage? Seems a bit arbitrary.

Considering the weak batches going around lately, 50 mg of your white powder could contain only around 20-25 mg pure MXE.

 

[Transcendence]

I know this has been discussed to death in the past, but I can't help but wonder if there's any more consensus on the sublingual vs insufflation preferences of bluelight now.

I've mostly been a backer of sublingual route. Both are significantly different experiences for some reason, almost like different drugs all together. My only problem with sublingual besides the inconveinance of holding it there is the greater potential for an unpleasant mind-fuck. Much more cerebral, much less body comfort.

I was never one for railing things, I like to take it easy on my nose. But I find myself gravitating towards it with MXE lately.

 

[<SpaceHead>]

replying to the post a ways back about MXE effecting women differently than men, I think I remember reading that ketamine actually has a stronger effect by weight on women than men. You gal's are lucky! I remember reading that in ketamine dreams and realities by karl jensen, but I don't have a link or anything to back it up. I was at a festival and a guy I was hanging out with offered everyone lines of MXE, the lines were all about the same size, we were all somewhat zonked but coherent enough to have intelligent conversation but the one girl in the group ended up rolling on the ground topless and mumbling to herself. Not exactly a scientific experiment, although a female friend of mine wanted to try MXE soon so I'll keep track of the dosages and see if it seems to effect her more strongly.

 

[mexr]

Over the last couple of weeks I've mostly been snorting it; pure MXE is comparatively easy on the nose although like anything too much of it will cause unpleasant symptoms. The worst I've gotten was the inside of my nose getting dry and uncomfortable after using it several days in a row. I've done sublingual a few times, it tastes pretty bad but you only need to hold it for like 10 minutes and the taste is easy to get rid of. Subbing might be a little more efficient and the high might last a little bit longer but I still gotta say up the nose is my favorite way.

Today is the first time I'm trying it orally. I made a drink out of it, each 100ml dose has 50mg MXE ~15mg JWH-073 and ~5 ml ethanol. It tastes like apple jolly ranchers. About 30 minutes in I started coming up gradually and really smoothly, MXE has a really clean come up with almost any ROA I've tried. An hour in the effects were more pronounced but I have some tolerance so it definitely won't be enough to hole or be really dissociative. I might change the recipe around a little bit to include more alcohol once I run out of JWH, it's a pretty small dose but I had it lying around so I thought the combo would be good.

 

[Transcendence]

All of the women I've talked to who have used MXE seem to dislike it. Nearly all of the men I've shared with love it like a son. Similar to how guys tend to prefer phenibut (GABAb) and women tend to prefer zolpidem (GABAa).

 

[mexr]

All of the women I've talked to who have used MXE seem to dislike it. Nearly all of the men I've shared with love it like a son. Similar to how guys tend to prefer phenibut (GABAb) and women tend to prefer zolpidem (GABAa).

You just gave me a good idea...I'm gonna add Phenibut to the mixture. I've never used it before. Would you recommend a standard dose 50mg MXE / 500mg Phenibut or 50mg / 1000mg phenibut? I have some tolerance to MXE but I've never tried phenibut.

 

[pharmakos]

you should try phenibut on its own first

 

[THCified]

You can't be anywhere near dissociation at so low a dose though, can you? You've gotta be in the quite small effects region with that dose? Not launching yerself off into hyperspace?

Definitely not. 15mg sublingual can sometimes be very comfortable/easy to handle, while on another occasion they can be totally devastating (in a positive way, of course).

Both are significantly different experiences for some reason, almost like different drugs all together. My only problem with sublingual besides the inconveinance of holding it there is the greater potential for an unpleasant mind-fuck. Much more cerebral, much less body comfort.

Really? Could you perhaps specify the exact differences? Thanks!

 

[Transcendence]

Definitely try phenibut first to get a feel for it. Not everyone's cup of tea. I find that I need to use at least 1.5g of phenibut for full effect, but ymmv. I don't recall ever combining it with MXE but if I did I would use 800mg.

I'm iffy on this one. It might go well, but it might also be a recipe for the spins. And you DO NOT want to get the spins on phenibut, because you'll be free falling for the next 24 hours. Check out my recent thread history to see how bad it can get. I've learned my lesson there.

 

[IamMe90]

I have little experience with sublingual dosing but I'll confirm that the ROA tends to change the experience quite a lot in MXE's case. Rectal dosing is almost like a different drug than insufflated (and much, much better IMO)

 

[Transcendence]

Really? Could you perhaps specify the exact differences? Thanks!

Sublingual administration does last a little longer than snorting the stuff. The reason I prefer sublingual use generally is that it feels much more "clean" to me. There isn't as much of a body vibration/high like railing it, but it has much more of a anti-depressive and almost psychedelic quality to it.

Insufflation can be very nice if you stagger your doses i.e. 20mg, wait 40 minutes, another 20mg, wait an hour, another 20mg to hit the sweet spot. I've always had a nice comfortable body high from insufflation which I would describe as DXM with an opiate edge and a spliff on top.

My best experiences have been dosing sublingually and topping it off with a few bumps every half hour or so.

 

[Transcendence]

I have little experience with sublingual dosing but I'll confirm that the ROA tends to change the experience quite a lot in MXE's case. Rectal dosing is almost like a different drug than insufflated (and much, much better IMO)

Plugging can be VERY intense (then again so can sublingual). The first ROA I tried with MXE was plugging believe it or not. Blew my mind. To me it feels like combination of insufflation and sublingual, or maybe closer to oral than anything else. I think it's a fine ROA I just don't do it often because it's inconvenient for obvious reasons.

 

[Reverberation]

MXE + RUM&COKE at ease at home with a good movie=WIN!!!!

Love this drug!! Gonna snort a little more!

 

[Normski]

I always go for insufflation because I really struggle with sublingual, even just putting 10mg under my tongue makes my mouth instantly fill up with saliva and then it just washes round my mouth instead of sitting under my tongue, I can't imagine how I'd manage 60-70mg which is what I usually insufflate. My usual method is weigh out what I want and snort about 2/3 of it, then wait 45 minutes & smoke a nice bit of weed. I tend to get a little bit manic around this point so I go do a few jobs like tidying up the flat, doing the dishes etc. After that I'm much more relaxed and I finish the other 1/3, go lie down, stick some music on and drift off into bliss while the rest of it kicks in

Think I might give the plugging route a go because it doesn't actually bother me trying that ROA but I'm a little unsure of how much more potent it is - if I'm comfortable with 60mg insufflated would around 25-30mg rectally be a good place to start?

 

[sn23]

Plugged isn't twice as potent as insufflated IME, perhaps more like 1.5, but it is much more a rollercoaster ride than other needleless ROAs. After an hour in you're certainly past the peak, so it's more "impressive", I'd say. Starting with half your normal dose to get used to the steeper increase in effects vs. time won't be a mistake

 

[B.mans]

Most people here seem to take MXE mainly at home, or in a setting with just a few friends. Are there people here that use it at raves/parties/festivals or in other more crowded situations?

I don't use drugs by myself so it's either at a party or during the afterparty. I've used MXE at parties mostly. This is pretty enjoyable to me, but it is a bit of a weird drug. I use a "bullet" device which dispenses about 40mg of MXE per "hit" (weighed it). Last time I used it was at a rave. I didn't feel much after the first hit. The I took two of what I estimated to be half hits, and still felt like the effects were very subtle (though at some moments this seemed to be different). Then I took one final hit. I did this in the course of about 3 hours.

So in total I was under the influence of 120mg before I felt I was really getting into it. At this point I started feeling like my hands were really large, and things got pretty confusing. I'm not sure if it was very enjoyable, although it wasn't bad either. I felt pretty "stupid" though. It was a bit inconvenient that I kept losing my friends and had a hard time finding them again, and also had trouble clearly communicating. Dancing was good though, and my legs felt like a wheel, which I find hilarious.

After a few hours something weird happened: I suddenly felt like everything was "normal" again. I was still definately under the influence of the drugs, but I saw everything in a very different light and had no trouble communicating or finding people. This was a very enjoyable state, and dancing felt like it was automatic. The weird thing was that this enjoyable state was not like how I felt before I took the final hit. Then I just felt like I wasn't high enough yet and didn't really "get into it".

This was very different from another experience, which I remember being great. However, while high I started to recall that it had also been confusing that time, until more friends showed up (making it harder to lose them). But mainly I recalled that the experience became MUCH more enjoyable after the sun came up (it was outdoors).

It occurred to me that more glowing experiences always took place during the day. Then my vision turns very sharp, almost like the world is suddenly in high definition. Also during the day I don't lose my friends all the time. I think I won't be taking MXE at nighttime parties anymore, but just during outdoor festivals and outdoor parties.

Just to be clear, I never really mind losing my friends at parties, we all go our own way. However on MXE in the dark its especially hard to find them when I look for them, more so than when on MDMA or other drugs.

 

[missimoo]

Lol just because you had a standard check-up and blood analysis doesn't mean you're damage free. You don't know whether it's affected your neural tissue, cognitive faculties, etc. I'd want to see an MRI, before and after pictures of marked NMDA and dopamine receptor activity in your brain, and before and after IQ tests and DSM-IV tests before I could even begin to remove a few grains from the mountain of salt I'm taking your statement with.
What irritates me is that your posting something like this is directly against the principles of HR. You should place more stress on your later statement "who knows, we are lab rats", rather than saying "Hey! I used a gram of this stuff daily for a year and I'm just fine!".

after years of depression and anxiety. which resulted in a breakdown about 5 years ago...followed by a cocaine addiction, I was discharged from the mental health services in the last 2 months having complelty turned my life around (I was complelty agoraphobic, crippled with anxiety and my life was in chaos)..I dealt with my issues and got on with my life. I am for the first time since I was a teenager, a fully functioning member of society with no health problems. MXE has helped my anxiety, removed my depression, PTSD etc from day one. and made me lose interest in all other drug taking including alcohol (I have even given up smoking).... on my early trips on MXE i dealt with issues, I "tripped out" past trauma's during MXE trips including a time i was raped, my parents divorce and various other "complexes" so not only have i a full bill of health from my GP, i also got it from the psychiatrist...to the point that I no longer have to see him. i was open in that i may have unknown health issues related to MXE, but none have shown up, you have really just attacked me.

i dont like your tone. please post with some respect. i clearly made the point that I wasnt BOASTING about my excessive dosing, but that I was amazed that i was WELL AND FIT after such long abuse, and it was abuse. if you have nothing positive to contribute. instead of slamming people. ...I suggest you back off. (FYI.. I didnt say I took a gram a day for a year, a said i used UP TO a gram a day, with breaks. that was a MAXIMUM...if your going to slam someone ...please dont misquote them)

 

[ColtDan]

MXE has helped my anxiety, removed my depression

likewise with me. my weekend use has helped a lot with this, i used to get really anxious and depressed, especially for days after using mephedrone, been suicidal before, i still do meph now and again but im a lot more stable. i also used to over think things too much, all kinds of shit, MXE has kind of enlightened me in a way. ive been a better person since my first MXE afterglow. may sound crazy to some, but i couldnt give a shit, its benefited me in various ways. inspired me to start eating very healthily, look after myself more, take interest in old hobbys,

 

[escape20]

I just take 30mg once every few hours and feel great all day. I think MXE is becoming my favorite drug...it helps me in so many ways.