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The Big & Dandy Methoxetamine Thread: 8th dose, I can't sleep so why not?

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i recently moved, so i have a new dr. i have had full blood check (kidney, liver function etc) and urine test, i have NO PROBLEMS at all. fine bill of health

regarding this, a simple blood/urine test will only discover serious problems. also, remember some chemicals might affect different tissues differently. theres still no telling what this does to blood vessels, neural tissue etc

im a mxe lightweight, whatever that means - im thinking needing a small dose to get effects -and im a guy, righthanded
 
god i feel so sorry reading all these reports about psychedlic effects. it really should be so smooth that unless you really god balls deep you are getting a fuzzy blanket effect. YMMV though.

What did I say about batch discussion just last page?
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Got some coming today, how much of a tolerance we talking? i was doing 1g every day up to a few weeks back..

i can do a gram a day easy. with tolerance. however a break of only a few days and ive been put in hospital on 300mgs. ...pulse and bpm through the roof...howver without any treatment, it passed in about an hour and i went home. tolerance DROPS FAST.

ive been using that kind of amount for about a year on and off.

i recently moved, so i have a new dr. i have had full blood check (kidney, liver function etc) and urine test, i have NO PROBLEMS at all. fine bill of health

Just because you have a clean bill of health right now, doesn't mean it will stay that way if you continue dosing such extreme amounts. I suggest you cut down drastically, unless you want to be pissing in to a catheter bag for the rest of your life. Ulcerative cystitis of the bladder is no fucking joke. Convince yourself it's okay if you want to, but the only peron you're fooling is yourself. People who are dosing like this are more in to the realm of self-abuse rather than mindful entheogenic exploration. My advice is to stop using it completely. And then start eating healthily and do some exercise to repair the damage you've inflicted up on yourself.
 
I rarely do MXE, Ketamine is a far, far superior compound. If you have access to reasonably priced ketamine, I can't imagine ever choosing MXE over it - for one, it's nice to not have to drink 5 gallons of water every time I do ketamine like I did with MXE to merely not feel like shit at the come down. The K afterglow is always warm and gentle, one of the best antidepressants I've ever had (though I only do Ketamine once in a blue moon), and I've never felt physically off or dehydrated from it. The hole is less chaotically terrifying - you simply glide through it. And the shorter duration makes it a lot more practical, plus a longer duration isn't needed since time is practically out the window in a hole.

The only advantage MXE has that I can think of is that it can be plugged to great effect. It would be GREAT if I could just plug all that powder instead of snorting it all up like I do with K! 200mg is a lot of powder, at least it doesn't burn though.
 
I rarely do MXE, Ketamine is a far, far superior compound. If you have access to reasonably priced ketamine, I can't imagine ever choosing MXE over it - for one, it's nice to not have to drink 5 gallons of water every time I do ketamine like I did with MXE to merely not feel like shit at the come down. The K afterglow is always warm and gentle, one of the best antidepressants I've ever had (though I only do Ketamine once in a blue moon), and I've never felt physically off or dehydrated from it. The hole is less chaotically terrifying - you simply glide through it. And the shorter duration makes it a lot more practical, plus a longer duration isn't needed since time is practically out the window in a hole.

The only advantage MXE has that I can think of is that it can be plugged to great effect. It would be GREAT if I could just plug all that powder instead of snorting it all up like I do with K! 200mg is a lot of powder, at least it doesn't burn though.

I concur, MXE comedown is usually really horrible. Feels physically and mentally like i had been binge drinking for several days... Shame, because i love it's dissociative peak though. Ketamine (IM esp) is so much smoother experience overall.

You know you can dissolve the powdered K into water and IM it if you take care of proper sterility (micron filters etc). I have IM'ed only liquid vials myself though, feels good man.

Fun shit but too much power.
Playing with lives to people who don't expect isn't funny.

It can kill for sure.

Just be safe and don't compulsively redose it.
I'm done with it. It showed me things and I'm hanging up the phone before it kills me. Because it will, the way I used it.

The reason it shows you life's secrets is because it almost kills you. If you aren't careful, it will. If you keep on using it, it might also.

Get your message and hang it up quick with this one. This stuff isn't good for you. You get the dose wrong the first time and it could be your last.

I learned a very valuable lesson about research chemicals with this stuff.
It was my first and last short research chemical addiction I will ever have.

It can get out of hand very easily yes. Wise decision you have made, but want to elaborate what happened that made you think the above thoughts?

Whatever the reason for quitting your usage is, you must remember however, that MXE doesn't actually (sadly?) have supernatural powers. Making you think that way is part of how it works. If abused long enough it will make your thinking patterns really crazy (but paradoxically very logical from your perspective) without you even noticing it. You must keep your mind skeptical and don't get too caught up in the world it shows you. You can see how your twisted your thoughts were, only after being clean of it for some time. But in the end, you will be fine (if you dont keep using it constantly).

Believing the content of the trip is some deep thruth is very alluring (and very convincing because of how it alters your mind state) if you have a specific kind of mentality. I have noticed traits of this in myself but i have always managed to question what to believe and kept myself at least somewhat grounded. Your post is good example of what i said in my trip report about starting to believe the hallucinations having actual physical consequences. I get this alot, love it and like to fantasize around with it but always keep the skeptical edge in the end.

It can kill you for sure if taken enough, but not by altering reality. Of course you can't prove that statement to be true, but you'll gain nothing by starting to obsess about it. Look how obsessively i'm writing about MXE at the moment even though i don't take it's visions at face value.

Stop using it to gain some perspective. Even though you now, right after a powerful experience feel like quitting forever, you might think otherwise as soon as tomorrow. Especially if you think the trips feel like a puzzle just about to be solved. Please don't get sucked into this.

fake edit. Saw you had posted again right before i was posting this. So you were in actual physical danger? Want to tell still more what happened?

even more edit. I felt like i was having some serious physical heart problems on the peak of my ego death hole. But i'm pretty sure they were only "harmless" panic attack style symptoms magnified and altered by my receptive mind state. It was on 100 mg...
 
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Just because you have a clean bill of health right now, doesn't mean it will stay that way if you continue dosing such extreme amounts. I suggest you cut down drastically, unless you want to be pissing in to a catheter bag for the rest of your life. Ulcerative cystitis of the bladder is no fucking joke. Convince yourself it's okay if you want to, but the only person you're fooling is yourself. People who are dosing like this are more in to the realm of self-abuse rather than mindful entheogenic exploration. My advice is to stop using it completely. And then start eating healthily and do some exercise to repair the damage you've inflicted up on yourself.

yea yea totes. i wasn't boasting. this use was ridiculous I admit I don't do it now..not to that extent, I was just pointing out that even at abuse THAT BAD (1 g a day regularly on and off for a year, with no damage...meh....read into it how you like, I admit it was stupid, and i dont condone it, but i guess i was trying to point out (to my own amazement too) that NO HARM WAS DONE over this period ...i consider myself lucky, and totes agree i dont want to spend the rest of my life having to piss into a bag, im not a complete junkie, although i will admit MXE took me for a while, i was functioning on this dose, i wasnt sat in a room on my own in a M hole..i was out and about using this drug, eating well, sleeping and exercising...with regular use, it looses its "trippy" effect, and just becomes a dopamine hit. sadly. which is compulsive (but not overwhelmingly so)...i have an addictive personality, i have never missed a commitment or not turned up anywhere i was ment to be because i was using MXE, never got in the way of relationships etc at these doses....i was using it in evenings then holing at night mostly to music..chilling out when i had free time... maybe im lucky, maybe this stuff is just safer then we give it credit..who knows. we are lab rats. i dont plan on pushing my luck..i dont use like this anymore.
 
Note to self: never use MXE two days in a row. When I dose the next day I never get positive effects...usually just a complete emptiness type feeling, nothing even close to euphoria on any size dose. I really got to learn to use in moderation.
 
I think as long as you keep yourself hydrated, ulcerative cystitis of the bladder is of little concern.

I used an insane amount of Ketamine in years past and my bladder was never affected. Then I switched to MXE after taking a break from Ketamine (and like Missimoo has mentioned now, with tolernace, MXE hits me mostly like a somewhat insightful dopamine hit)... still piss quite normally.

Friends I know who used K and had bladder problems were not drinking water and taking care of their overall health. With a Ketamine addiction is is easy to neglect your health. With an MXE affliction (I say affliction, not addiction... this to me is more of a drug of choice than compulsion) there is absolutely no reason or excuse to neglect your health. I continue to engage in atlethic activity and eat healthy and stay hydrated when I am using MXE.

And the result has been about a year or more of mostly steady use with a few breaks here and there. Mental tolerance has built up, yes, but it is still a desireable dopamine hit with antidepressant and thought-provoking qualities. Motivating, as well.

Physically I am in the best shape of my life, except maybe not counting when I was in high school ski and lacrosse varsity teams.
 
Wow, I am very surprised to see you guys writing this about mxe.

I don't think you have pure product, which is sad but unfortunately very likely. Or there is the possibility that you just are doing too much, in that case congrats for being able to stop.

I don't think mxe is a killer though. Not real mxe.

I used MXE ever since it came out on the market, always used the same vendors (besides one time). Has nothing to do with low purity, the stuff is top notch and I still have it. 1,5 years of usage every weekend and sometimes also on weekdays many days in a row, sooner or later some symptoms are going to show up. MXE just didn't work like it used to (same batches), I get no euphoria or positive out of it anymore. Just extreme confusion and it fucks up my mouth/jaws so my speech become extremely slurred on it, even on low doses.

See, the real product, when used too much and too often, is going to do some not so good things to your brain. That's the reason for my break.
 
god i feel so sorry reading all these reports about psychedlic effects. it really should be so smooth that unless you really god balls deep you are getting a fuzzy blanket effect. YMMV though.

I'm assuming you've done very high doses before? If not, it does in fact get mentally very psychedelic at higher doses. Not visually, but mentally in my thought process. It is in fact smooth, and a very clean feeling.

I also don't get any negative side effects. No come down, no hangover feeling. It's important to stay hydrated, but it's also important to stay hydrated at any given moment. I think what a lot of you may be experiencing is just placebo, psychological. Perhaps from lack of rest, or poor sleep. Worst I've experienced so far is a groggy feeling in the morning, but that's been because I've yet to sleep a full nights sleep on after dosing.
 
Damn, My boy Eyes Wide Open is losing it. Stay strong playa. I wish I could feel your pain but I don't.

This stuff doesn't hit me remotely as hard as it hits some of the people here. I would always take orally because I never snorted anything. After dosing 30 mgs. 5 times in the span of about a month in a half and only getting a tingling buzz feeling I finally said fuck it, time to snort.

I snorted 30mgs last week and while I felt good...That was about it. No deep introspective thoughts, same views, same everything. I felt pretty much sober mentally, just very wobbly and wonky feeling physically. And that's not want I want. I want mind expansion. I would like to have deep thoughts revealed to me similar to what I read on here but it just doesn't happen. Redosing never did jack shit either, just kept the buzz going maybe an hour longer. Hell, I don't even know when I peak sometimes. It's always just a steady buzz feel.

And If I have to snort more then 50 mgs to get there, then I'll never get there. I refuse to have to take that much of a substance just to get fucking high. I bought 1 gram around 3 months ago and still have about 20 mgs left. I'll probably knock that out this weekend and sit back and wait for a better drug. So far all these rcs I've been trying have left me unsatisfied. I'm still waiting on a Mdma rc with half the crash of mdma or a dmt rc that i can take orally without smoking.
2c-s fucking suck with the bodyload and nasuea.....Rc's just aren't my thing I guess. Give me a call when there's a legit lsd, dmt rc or hell even a delirant without the bad effects, shit I'll try that. I'd be fine with a lucid dream pill.

As you can tell, I'm bored and was pretty entertained reading the last 2 pages of this thread lol. Pure gold.
Good night fellas...
 
MXE does not act on serotonin receptors, as far as I know.
Well that did not die. Nice swag dopeboy! :D
 
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This stuff doesn't hit me remotely as hard as it hits some of the people here. I would always take orally because I never snorted anything. After dosing 30 mgs. 5 times in the span of about a month in a half and only getting a tingling buzz feeling I finally said fuck it, time to snort.

I snorted 30mgs last week and while I felt good...That was about it. No deep introspective thoughts, same views, same everything. I felt pretty much sober mentally, just very wobbly and wonky feeling physically. And that's not want I want. I want mind expansion. I would like to have deep thoughts revealed to me similar to what I read on here but it just doesn't happen. Redosing never did jack shit either, just kept the buzz going maybe an hour longer. Hell, I don't even know when I peak sometimes. It's always just a steady buzz feel.

And If I have to snort more then 50 mgs to get there, then I'll never get there. I refuse to have to take that much of a substance just to get fucking high.

You want mind expansion but you won't dose higher than 30mg? Sorry man, never gonna happen. Perhaps you have a slight innate tolerance to the mental effects. I'd say 50mg is good for what you want. Perhaps even 60. Why do you 'refuse to have to take that much' mxe to get high? That's pretty retarded. That's like smoking half a bowl, not feeling high and then saying that the weed itself is at fault, when there's more right there to smoke and get you there!! Madness. Please fill me in if I'm missing something here.
 
On erowid I read something that benzos can protect your brain from ketamine, do you think theres any truth in that?
 
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You want mind expansion but you won't dose higher than 30mg? Sorry man, never gonna happen. Perhaps you have a slight innate tolerance to the mental effects. I'd say 50mg is good for what you want. Perhaps even 60. Why do you 'refuse to have to take that much' mxe to get high? That's pretty retarded. That's like smoking half a bowl, not feeling high and then saying that the weed itself is at fault, when there's more right there to smoke and get you there!! Madness. Please fill me in if I'm missing something here.

Good point, I guess I'll try 50. Now I WON'T go over 50. If I still feel sober but I'm unable to move off the couch just laying there like a fucking vegtable with my same thought process, I'm never doing this shit again..

EDIT: Actually, now that think about it, I have done 60 mgs. 30 plus another 30 about 2 hours later. Didn't do anything significant exact keep the buzz lasting longer. I'll just try 50 from jump and see where that takes me.
 
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