The Big & Dandy Methoxetamine Thread - 7th Dose (Let's start the next bag)

[effie]

I can never sleep after MXE either, not really tried anything to remedy it..

Going to move this over to Psychedelic Drugs as they cover dissociatives, hope that is okay

BDD > PD

 

[rogermoore]

Thanks Effie.

Also interested in what it is about MXE that causes this - never usually have problems.

 

[Mr. Tambourine Man]

Both the dopamine re-uptake inhibition and NMDA antagonism effects will contribute to sleeplessness, I believe. I've noticed the same insomnia effect with DXM and 4-meo-PCP, they're both a bit different, but the mechanism is likely to be similar (even though DXM doesn't have any dopamine activity).

As far as counteracting the effect, I would just suggest riding it out, maybe using Melatonin or an antihistamine if you're desperate. Opiates on the comedown will help you fall asleep, but mixing these two could easily end badly.

 

[rogermoore]

Cheers.

Yeah, riding out seems to only safe solution. I've tried low dose of diazepam but had no effect and have no desire to mess around with higher doses for obvious reasons.

Opiates are a no-no for me, but I do find hash reduces the head load and any closed-eye visuals - still wide awake though.

 

[greenmeanies]

I've safely combined a normal (25-75mg) dose of diphenhydramine (benadryl, unisom) at the tail end (T+5) of MXE but it didn't really help sleep come. If anything it simply extended the hypnagogic imagery that MXE in low doses already provides.

 

[Deleted member 175441]

very hit or miss if i get the opiate sleepy time feeling after peak wears off, or lasting stimulation. Put cannabis into the mix and even more hit or miss
edit: opiate sleepy time isnt the right description lol, but its a feeling which i like to lay down, trip out in borderline sleep mode, then wake up not remembering most of trip b/c thats how even non intoxicated lucid dream things work

speedy ROA's: snorting and vaping
"psychedelic" and more sedating ROA's: plugging and sublingual maybe, I've hardly been able to get sublingual dosing to work

 

[lynx2051]

I had MXE last night after taking MPA earlier in the day. It was like trippy speed. I was playing on Forza 4 and it actually felt like I was driving the car, plus I was all sped up from the MPA. It was rather pleasant and re-enforcing. Much more than MPA alone.

My poor nose needs a break from MXE, it's got very soar.

 

[Br0kenRabbit]

Well tonight 75mg taken over 3 doses (some alc also) with 2mg etiz was experianced in london canary wharf.


Much fun ensued , the buildings and lights made for a fairground for the mind, I loved it it it was so flufffly.

I find MXE + Etizolam to be a great combination. I rarely do MXE on its own now.

 

[whoseanb]

Does anyone else experience "false memories" after MXE use? Obviously dreams of the night after using, but very hard to verify because of the minor nature of these "memories". Gave me quite a scare once.

I was wondering if this was just me. The next day after using I'll find myself at work with these thoughts, and I will literally sit in one spot trying to put the details together in my head and then I'll just remember "Aw, that was a damn dream."

I only have that happen whenever I take MXE. I actually look foward to the dreams the next 2 nights after MXE use. Always so vivd and so real like. But, I can see how it could end up scary if it's something that you would perfer not to happen. So far I've dreams that my brother who's in prison was out and me and him were hanging out. The next day I remembered the conversation we had in the dream and it took me a couple hours to realize that it never happened lol.

 

[ColtDan]

Ordered about 5g of MXE from a reputable guy. Is the euphoria from MXE comparable to the euphoria from DXM?

dunno, but for me and other people i know MXE sometimes mimics the feeling of other drugs, you may feel like your on DXM at some points, sometimes i hoof up lines and feel like im mildly drunk and on ecstasy or something, awesome stuff. also when i hole it seems to correlate with aspects of previous DMT trips, theres certain similar things

gonna have a cheap night tonight, bit tired from work and could do with saving some money, probably do some MXE and valium and journey through some music new headphones arrived earlier... sweet

 

[missimoo]

http://www.independent.co.uk/life-s...-over-drug-sold-as-safe-ketamine-6804824.html

Has anyone read this (thanks Independent reporter who asked for info on bluelight..you said you weren't going to do an "expose"..but I think this article is bollocks...no where has it been sold as "safe k"... am disappointed. You should work for the Sun poor show. (basically this is just an advertisement for thousands of people to now go try it...then someone will die...and it will be banned. thanks..thanks a lot)

Regarding this article though:

damage to Bladder caused by K or potentially MXE (although no one has reported any problems that I've read)

How would one know if they were/had bladder problems caused by MXE/K...what are the warning signs...??

 

[ColtDan]

From what ive heard...stinging when weeing, strange cramps, possibly back aches although thats probably more to do with kidneys. very steamy urine maybe?

 

[missimoo]

how much warning would you have, would you "know you were impending a medical emergency and having a piss bag for the rest of your life" or would it be sudden? ..what sort of "onset" would one expect from a bladder-killing-mxe-blunder..?

... i mean..would you know you were having problems...and carry on abusing like an addict until you were fucked...or would it be a sudden "oh shit ive fucked my bladder"

 

[ColtDan]

probably a sharp onset but recoverable, unless the abuse is continued. ive had some kidney problems from alcohol abuse but it went away. people who are pissing razors and getting cramps but carry on hoofing lines will probably eventually fuck themselves up. you having some issues?

 

[missimoo]

probably a sharp onset but recoverable, unless the abuse is continued. I've had some kidney problems from alcohol abuse but it went away. people who are pissing razors and getting cramps but carry on hoofing lines will probably eventually fuck themselves up. you having some issues?

no just paranoia after reading that not-at-all #expose article in the Independent about people ending up with broken bladders and having to live with catheters for the rest of their lives...I presume this is one nutter and not the norm...it's completely the kind of article I would expect from the Daily Fail or the Scum, not the "Independent"...

No I have no problems, I just thought for health promotion, I'd like to know what the risk was, and what the warning indicators would be. (I have no symptoms.(that I know of)..it just made me think..)

 

[twelvesevndi]

until we know more i think you should assume that MXE is, at best, equally as dangerous as Ketamine by mg.

from what i understand, this means that one would likely encounter bladder issues if using 1500 mg or more per day. Using 5000 mg per day would essentially guarantee bladder damage.

 

[ColtDan]

10mg of valium earlier, 30mg of MXE up the hooter not that long ago... this batch seems different. more bitter, and more fucking awesome. this feels bang on par with the clean nice "K feeling" sharp onset/offset isomer stuff just before christmas that got me feeling amazing. no weird visual struggling to read things, like sloppy vision... yet. a good feeling of "well being" at the moment, connected to music, flowing, thought process feels focused and cranked up a gear... like matey from limitless or something lol. almost feels like a different drug... then again i know how this stuff tends to replicate the feelings of other drugs. loving this so far, awesome. could be to do with the fact ive had a good week etc, been eating very healthily, feeling optimistic and im in the perfect mindset for it, and im used to it. seems the more i do it, the better it gets. gonna love the afterglow from this.feeling kinda speedy but in a clean kinda way, not wonky yet. becomes a different beast when i up the dose. not gonna rush things though, will up it later

 

[missimoo]

until we know more I think you should assume that MXE is, at best, equally as dangerous as Ketamine by mg.

From what I understand, this means that one would likely encounter bladder issues if using 1500 mg or more per day. Using 5000 mg per day would essentially guarantee bladder damage.

thank you for that info. in effect. you could argue then that MXE is safer...in that if it is at least equal in mg v's mg in damage (i have never taken k so i cant compare)...but i believe the dose of K is higher then a dose of MXE..so if they were equally as damaging, by it being stronger, therefor...you takes LESS...for the same effect...it's actually...safer...on par...interesting.

 

[phenethylo J]

I can't wait till my gram comes in the mail. Most likely will be tuesday. I havent had any since the start of december.

As far as RCs go... look how long it's taking them to ban MDPV and 2c-x... and "bath salts" have been all over daytime TV and the evening news. I don't feel like MXE is widespread amongst the public enough to get banned so quickly. Then again, who knows how long it will be until somebody eats a gram and doesn't wake up.

Yea it only takes one idiot to ruin it for everyone, or a bunch of lame ass youtube drugies.

With salvia in one of the states it it was made illegal it was banned because one dumb ass emo kid commited suicide. He didn't even kill him self while on it he had just been using it allot and then dicided to end his life because he said it taught him existence was meaningless in his diary. Then it got banned and the law was named after him. All those stupid ass youtube videos also played a big role in other states.

Even if mxe does get banned it is not like it is going anywhere there are several online sources for schd 1 drugs like lsd, mdma, amt, dmt, ect if you know where to look.

 

[ColtDan]

Fuck this is perfect.... Valium + a good amount of MXE... new headphones... im becomming.... connnecting.... everything.... melts into oneeeeeeeeeee BEAUUUUUUUTY. still coherent enough to see everything seperate but the MXE audio link is s what the fuck? im completely connected to sound. COMPLETELY. and im not even feeling that trippy. fucking hell this is something else