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The Big & Dandy Methoxetamine Thread - 2nd Dissociation

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Just clearing this up before trying, what is dose range from weak>strong and what are the bioavailabilities (sniff or eat)?
 
First real experience last night...finding it hard to verbalise how this makes me feel or 'what it's like'! Never tried K before and recent experiences have been limited to stims. Did an allergy test <5mg on Friday and then 2x 12-15mg oral last night with the Mrs. Figured since we had no idea what to expect we should start low and build up or attempt to find these so called sweetspots. After 1st dose I went for a bath while the mrs had a bite to eat. 20 minutes later through she comes looking utterly spangled with a big grin saying one minute she was eating a crisp then she turned her head to look at the clock and bam she was..elsewhere! I wasn't feeling anything right then but 10 minutes later I felt out there as well.

Like I say not having anything to compare it to makes it difficult to describe but I felt detached yet with it, slightly physically impaired but still able to do things if reqd even though actions felt a lot more deliberate. Got totally into my gaming while on it...a lap of the nurburgring on gt5 felt more like an hour than 8 minutes and was almost unbelievably tense but the focus and involvement were amazing! Redosed a couple of hours after with some degree of success but not much more than the first which surprised me a bit?

Didn't find it fiendish as some have described but there is some sort of moreishness to it and today there's a sense of 'why not' rather than 'must have' which I think is partly down to there being no apparent negative after effects to last nights wee sesh.

Question for those doing it in company: what effect does it have on your chat? The mrs and I had some good moments and there was a definite shit chatting aspect to it but, unlike stims, where all is light and fluffy n kinda 'don't care' fuck it type vibe there were moments where sarcasm and attempted piss taking seemed to have a bit of an edge to it. Today were both in agreement that it was different but that neither was out to have a dig or be edgy so it was in our heads but neither of us felt we were 'to blame' if you like. Weird one...But quite conceivably fuck all to do with the drug :D

Anyway, this is one we'll be back to without a doubt but still going to take it easy on the journey!
 
incognition said:
lol.

Toad: Would you mind elaborating a bit on effects of the combo? Sounds interesting. :)
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stumblestoprepeat said:
Aren't "flips" generally x chemical+MDMA? ;)

Also seconding the request for an elaboration on the acid/mxe combo!
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Well, the experience was pretty intense and time was non existing throughout the trip.

I have had a few beers with some friends earlier that evening and when I got home at about ten I decided to dose some methoxetamine.

I was already pretty deep in the methoxetamine experience when I took the acid. About a hour later I was just lying in my bed in a massive MXE-hole with the most insane crazy visuals. COV were amazing and combined with the dissociative effects from the methoxetamine is was just pure bliss. It was an amazing experience. I was flying through dimensions and all kinds of weird landscapes and places. I must have have layed there for hours without moving because when I opened my eyes again and went the kitchen it was in the middle of the night.

The acid added some amazing details and another level to the already weird realm of dissociatives.

I haven't tried this combo with ketamine, but I would imagine they are pretty similar only with a shorter duration.
 
ChasingTheCat said:
Awesome out-of-body experience. I felt that I was dead, but it was nevertheless an unspeakably beautiful experience. Oh, how do I love that feeling of falling through the worlds and being shot into space! If that felt anything like that, I could really look forward to the end :D

I find it way more recreational then ketamine, which sometimes exhibits disgusting elements while being near the hole. With methoxe it's just pure bliss! Comedown is much, much smoother for me, too.
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Yes, yes and yes!!
 
ChasingTheCat said:
Oh, methoxetamine, it is a real gem, probably the most worthwile RC imo.

Home sessions have been rahter unsatisfying first, becaus I always felt that I just missed the level, where the fun realy begins. Even 50mg i.m. didn't really get things going. Guess that it ended up in the subcutaneous tissue, becaus 60 mg yesterday evening felt a million times stronger. Finally there, in the "m-hole".
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How did you prepare methoxetamine for IM, did you filter the HCL?
Thanks
 
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i have smoked some cannabis earlier and i believe that methoxetamine has lowered my tolerance. as i had been taking it for a week in small doses and large on 2 occassions. good social drug. never reached a hole just a manic phase of continous dai ja vue constantly for ten minutes. then a paradoxical thought pattern that made me think nothing existed outside of my room.
anyway anyone experienced what this chem is like with cannabis?
k+bud isn't that good but maybe this different.
good to see that lsd+mxe is coming up good
will try a mdma+mxe combo this friday. but only on the comedown.
 
sidthesloth said:
i have smoked some cannabis earlier and i believe that methoxetamine has lowered my tolerance. as i had been taking it for a week in small doses and large on 2 occassions. good social drug. never reached a hole just a manic phase of continous dai ja vue constantly for ten minutes. then a paradoxical thought pattern that made me think nothing existed outside of my room.
anyway anyone experienced what this chem is like with cannabis?
k+bud isn't that good but maybe this different.
good to see that lsd+mxe is coming up good
will try a mdma+mxe combo this friday. but only on the comedown.
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I did a lot of methox and smoked a lot of weed on friday. Closed eye visuals were really, really intense. I went into a different world.
 
sidthesloth said:
i have smoked some cannabis earlier and i believe that methoxetamine has lowered my tolerance. as i had been taking it for a week in small doses and large on 2 occassions. good social drug. never reached a hole just a manic phase of continous dai ja vue constantly for ten minutes. then a paradoxical thought pattern that made me think nothing existed outside of my room.
anyway anyone experienced what this chem is like with cannabis?
k+bud isn't that good but maybe this different.
good to see that lsd+mxe is coming up good
will try a mdma+mxe combo this friday. but only on the comedown.
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Funny you should ask, i was just thinking about getting some more Methoxetamine in for the weekend and thinking 'i'll have to get some weed in to go with it'.

For me, weed turns Methoxetamine into a totally different drug.

I find Methoxetamine on it's own can be a bit cold, with a bit of an edge to it. Still definitely worthwhile, but not as nice as with weed. Weed seems to smooth everything out and really enhance the warm opiate feeling.

Methoxetamine on its own for me is like seing a big slab of granite freshly cut out of a cliff face. - It's powerful. You can definitely see why people like this material. It's beautiful. But it's very rough.

Weed for me is whatever they use to smooth it all out to make it into your kitchen worksurface. - The grinder. The sandpaper. The varnish. The polish.

I like it a lot more when i have a joint about half an hour after the effects have shown themselves.

I like it a lot.
 
CerebralFlux said:
just use a micron filter.
if you dont have one on hand, you can also use cigarette filters, like these http://www.roll-ups.co.uk/ishop/images/879/swanultra2.jpg .

but it´s better to use a micron filter.

also be sure to heat the solution till it boils a bit, to kill any bacteria.
It also helps to dissolve the methoxetamine.
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thanks. i was thinking of using a .22 micron filter which would eliminate 99% of the bacteria...any problems with the heat weakening the potency of the solution?
 
It certainly won't weaken the potency . (?)

It doesn't degrade at the temperatures you will be working with.

Which is, I'm assuming, what you are asking.

Cheers

(props on the micron filters.)
 
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chemical messiah said:
thanks. i was thinking of using a .22 micron filter which would eliminate 99% of the bacteria...any problems with the heat weakening the potency of the solution?
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A .22u filter (watman) is what I use. Why don't you just get bacteriostatic water instead of trying to sterilize and heat tap water or whatever kind of water your going to use? I mean, 30ml of bacteriostatic water costs way less than a pack of cigarettes.. and you can mix all of that with 3 grams of MXE, then you have a nice solution at 100mg/ml for injection.
 
i used distilled water, which was then boiled to kill any bacteria and to dissolve the methoxetamine.
if you can't get bacteriostatic water (if your pharmacy doesn't have any for example) use distilled water and forget about tap-water.
 
After an allergy test with 5 mg, 25 mg insufflated tested (batch December), wonderful substance.
 
Sessionz said:
Can anyone who has posted about being 'manic' on MXE give examples please.
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You get to a stage where you become unhinged mentally. Rational and sensible thought processes get replaced by delirium and confusion. It can be quite scary, becoming confused when 5 minutes ago you had a grip on things, but it also allows for complete immersion in the experience.
 
JSPete said:
You get to a stage where you become unhinged mentally. Rational and sensible thought processes get replaced by delirium and confusion. It can be quite scary, becoming confused when 5 minutes ago you had a grip on things, but it also allows for complete immersion in the experience.
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I get a lot of the above while on MXE, i didn't really consider it much before as i do it alone but i thought i'd be considred odd if someone was watching me. I'm wondering how this manifests itself in other people's experiences.
I always want to post my experiences on BL after having a session but the general confusion stops me being able to word it properly or formulate my questions the right way.

My experiences of MXE are varying so wildly at the moment that i can't say whether i like it or not. I have nice, warm, meaningful trips that reinforce my love for the chemical and then i'll switch to a cold, confusing experience that knocks me back and makes me feel stupid for thinking i had the drug all figured out. The thing is, although i don't have scales to be accurate, i've stayed low on dosage and am not pushing it hard.
The "warmth" part of the effects seems to be key. I had a strong experience recently where i also used nitrous on top and went to the edge of, i guess, a "hole" and entered a place made up of all of the bad trips i've ever had on different drugs. I had myself convinced i was not real, nothing was and that i had fucked up reality. This exact trip on K several years ago made me give up drugs for over a year. But the thing was i was able to keep myself relaxed due to the warmth/opoid effect/whatever it is part of the MXE experience. I came back to myself in the room and sobered up in second. I was smiling and happy rather than full of fear, this experience had made me want to take MXE again some time.
Today i had a small single dose, no nitrous with it. I didn't really get much at all from the experience except towards the end where i felt agitated, thought i was enetering that place near the hole (i wasn't, i had only just dosed enough to get a slight wobble in my step and i wasn't experiencing anything near that level anyway) and felt i had to go to my bed and get under the cover. This thought then convinced me i had done this many times before and was definitely in a loop, reality was an imagination etc. As soon as i got into bed the whole experience ended, the drug stopped almost instantly and i was left with a racing heart and confusion. There was no "warmth", i have no afterglow.

At first my experiences were almost exactly 4 hours on the dot, positive and flowed nicely, had a sort of strange stimulated end to them and then followed with a positive afterglow where i would reflect on things that had come up.
Now they seem to be shorter, about 2 hours total, less flowing and i'm not getting the afterglow.
MXE's effect on my bladder has changed over time too. I definitely noticed an increase in needing to piss when i started taking MXE, a real change. That has passed now though.

Not sure what i'm trying to say, just putting some of my thoughts into a post.
 
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Thank god your experiences vary as much as mine do. At first, every trip I had was beautiful, happy, enlightening. Then they started to get unpleasant, lasting far too long. Last one I remember writhing about in bed literally crying with frustration because I felt as though I had been hit round the head with a hammer and desperately wanted it to end.

I'm sticking to small, sub-hole doses for the time being now, as they are still hugely enjoyable.
 
I tried this chemical twice recently and have been put off it for sure...

At first it was a 25mg dose, high for a beginner, I'm sure, but I was looking for a wild time, unfortunately I only felt fuzzy headed for the first 20 minutes and then go to the point where I couldn't do anything besides lay in bed feeling nauseous, and mentally cold with a horrible "clinical/hospital" feel to it, I'm not quite sure how else to describe that... once I started coming down I had a headache occur as well.

No fireworks, just me feeling awful and numb in bed and waiting for the trip to end.

Last night I tried 10mgs, too afraid to go any higher, and while I could still walk around and such, I still had that cold, clinical feeling which left me feeling the most depressed I've felt in several months, I woke up today with that depression still remaining... this chemical has quickly gone to the top of my "worst drug experiences" list.

I didn't mix it with anything, but an hour after the 10mg dose I had some weed to try and get to a more familiar mindset...didn't help much, but helped me sleep.
 
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