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The Big & Dandy Methoxetamine Thread-11th Dose-50 grams and a kidney later..

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I havent really been doing other drugs, but I did have a case of food poisoning. Trust me, I'm staying clean for a while, this is scary.
 
Thought I had read quite a bit about MXE but somehow missed the paper that when combined with cannabis it is a completely different substance entirely. Took a small amount (30mg) and went to a club to see one of my favorite bands. Everything chill. I was a little panicky because I get panicky in crowds sometimes, but panic can't really breakthrough on MXE. (low dose dissociative quite good for social anxiety sometimes). Decided to smoke some pot, which I do rarely these days (few times a year) to chill myself out. It's about a 50/50 shot whether it makes things better or worse but I figured, it's just pot, either direction in goes it isn't going to go very far.

Holy shit. Blast off to hyperspace for a solid hour. Felt much more like a serotonergenic psychedelic than MXE usually does. Plus all the wierd dissociative shit that usually only happens at much higher doses. The hallucinations that are only there at the edge of consciousness. Full on alice in wonderland space distortion. Enhancement of music to a synesthetic degree. And tons and tons of fear. Much closer to my experiences on LSD at concerts where it felt like I was just trying to endure each song as a sort of test of my will.

But yet that odd MXE clarity as well. One moment I could watch someone playing pinball and mind meld /with the machine/, the next moment I could play pinball myself with full handeye coordination.

Completely unexpected. I've never had any substance except nitrous so radically change the feeling of a psychedelic trip before. Now that I look into it more I see the effects of MJ on MXE are well talked about, but I would never have believed it without experiencing it. Definitely unexpected, for the dose of MXE I was on.
 
yeah, a little weed can change the experience a lot for better or worse. it brings out the crazy/delusions side of mxe too much for my liking
 
I just want to mention here (already did on the combo thread) that sublingual L-theanine goes great with MXE, especially when I just can't get as deep as I want despite taking several doses (which seems to happen randomly- sometimes it just dosen't work as well as I'd like.)
Last night, for instance, I had already given up taking more & I took 300-400 mg of theanine & put my headphones back on & it was very intense. The experience became much more "fluffy" & I was able to really get lost in the music. It really brought the otherwise mediocre experience to life.
 
theanine is great for many things. It is anectdotally reported to reduce MDMA neurotoxicity by reducing glutamate sensitivity or something of the like. Also gets rid of 99% of bad side effects that can be felt when one has ingested too much caffeine. Also great for just feeling chill. It's like a pseudo meditation session in a pill...promotes alpha brain wave production.

In other news, y'all are hooked on this MXE sheit.

I have taken the advice of 'theapplecore' and am almost 5 weeks clean of methoxetamine. I am not looking back, and there is a very, very small likelihood I would ingest that chemical again. LSD? hell yes. Shrooms? Once in a while? Pot? Sure, if I feel like it. but methoxetamine? suck my fucking balls and get the fuck out.

I imagine it will take some time for people to learn that there is a price to pay for something that feels soooo good. As my dad told me, if something seems too good to be true, it probably is. NMDA antagonism, DA activity, 5-ht activity, AND opioid receptor activity.....with little to no side effects?

I call BS. I think the side effects are just more sinister and will take a while to manifest themselves to the user...ie kidney failure or a malignant brain tumor..

Personally, experiencing the uncontrollable Parkinsons-esque jerking was enough to throw me off of it for good, I don't want to find out what long term side effects are. I'll let y'all find that out for me.

After a week long binge on MXE, I took 2.4mg of 25c-NBOMe. As the visuals really started to hit me, I could suddenly see through my skin into my insides, and the entire network of blood vessels & arteries & veins running up & down my arm became visible to me. There was something wrong though; the color was off or idk, I couldn't really put my finger on it. It came to me that I had been poisoning myself with this methoxetamine garbage, that it was turning me into something I was not., I was not at all myself when I was on it, and it's effects lingered in me FAR longer than the supposed '3 hour' half life would suggest.

All in all scary as shit, good luck to anyone that chooses to risk it with this chem.
 
Ah yes, if one times an mxe dose & cannabis high right (or wrong depending on where you're at, ha) it does get weird like that. Me and a friend have jokingly referred to it as the cosmic yo yo. Have yet to figure out a precise method for it. Kinda difficult to achieve if you're trying, IME anyway.

On another note, on my past couple weekends off (I work every other weekend) I've used a nasal mister set to deliver ~2mg of mxe per spray while I've been out checking some music or hanging out in a bar. Really like it at that level. Adds a nice feeling without being totally wonked. Anyone else tried 4-8mg at a time over the course of an evening? Also has the nice effect of reducing overall consumption. Usually doing mxe over the course of a night out would put me around 60-80mg, over the course of 5-6hrs. This would usually result in a rather uneven, to say the least, experience. I'd usually do 10-20mg bumps, end the last few would have a greatly diminished effect. Using the nasal spray, I am able to just maintain a slight floaty buzz that's also pleasantly anxiolytic, which in turn reduces my alcohol consumption. And it's really easy to stay <40mg for the entire evening.
 
I made a similar nasal spray, it works.
When I sprayed every 10 minutes I could stay in that comeup phase where the mood lift occurs, this worked well for 2 hours maybe.
But at some point the usual confusion sets in.

I also dont think I took more than 40mg over the whole evening and I had good effects with that dose, I think it gets absorbed better than the dry powder and you have a lot of control over your intoxication.
Holing is very likely impossible with the nasal spray.

My problem was how to preserve this spray
Maybe ther should be some anti bacterial chemical added
 
Bacteriostatic water (the kind for injection) would work great to fend off bacterial spoilage, or you could just add the benzyl alcohol yourself...
You shouldn't trust intuitions about long term effects of RC's I think, cryptix, but rather treat them with reasonable caution based on what you know about them. Although, anyone consuming these on a regular basis & in large amounts is kind of asking for it really...
 
cryptix420 said:
theanine is great for many things. It is anectdotally reported to reduce MDMA neurotoxicity by reducing glutamate sensitivity or something of the like. Also gets rid of 99% of bad side effects that can be felt when one has ingested too much caffeine. Also great for just feeling chill. It's like a pseudo meditation session in a pill...promotes alpha brain wave production.

In other news, y'all are hooked on this MXE sheit.

I have taken the advice of 'theapplecore' and am almost 5 weeks clean of methoxetamine. I am not looking back, and there is a very, very small likelihood I would ingest that chemical again. LSD? hell yes. Shrooms? Once in a while? Pot? Sure, if I feel like it. but methoxetamine? suck my fucking balls and get the fuck out.

I imagine it will take some time for people to learn that there is a price to pay for something that feels soooo good. As my dad told me, if something seems too good to be true, it probably is. NMDA antagonism, DA activity, 5-ht activity, AND opioid receptor activity.....with little to no side effects?

I call BS. I think the side effects are just more sinister and will take a while to manifest themselves to the user...ie kidney failure or a malignant brain tumor..

Personally, experiencing the uncontrollable Parkinsons-esque jerking was enough to throw me off of it for good, I don't want to find out what long term side effects are. I'll let y'all find that out for me.

After a week long binge on MXE, I took 2.4mg of 25c-NBOMe. As the visuals really started to hit me, I could suddenly see through my skin into my insides, and the entire network of blood vessels & arteries & veins running up & down my arm became visible to me. There was something wrong though; the color was off or idk, I couldn't really put my finger on it. It came to me that I had been poisoning myself with this methoxetamine garbage, that it was turning me into something I was not., I was not at all myself when I was on it, and it's effects lingered in me FAR longer than the supposed '3 hour' half life would suggest.

All in all scary as shit, good luck to anyone that chooses to risk it with this chem.
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I totally understand your point and i also think that people should thread this one with caution, ever said it, but i also misused it, not as bad as you for example (i never even came close to 1000mg a month, not even 1/4 of it, or at max.) but enough. What i wanna say is, that if threated with caution, which isn't easy, there shouldn't be much more "problems" as with doing K on an irregular basis, but this is just guessing! Who the fuck knows?

I'm also trough with too narrow spaced trips on MXE and i really really miss it's AD properties, but as you nicely said, if something seems too good to be true, it probably is.

Hope you're gettin' better health-wise!
 
^Serotonin agonists are scientifically proven to prevent NMDA antagonist neurotoxicity (assuming it does exist in humans in some way) that's why I like to take a psychedelic and then do small doses of dissociatives over the course of the trip.
 
tryptamines and ketamine-alikes are like 2 puzzle pieces that fit perfectly together.

Also luck isnt necessary if you use this correctly, meaning dont abuse it.
Easier said than done, i know, its too easy to use this on a daily basis. But a little will power goes a long way with this stuff.
 
cryptix420 said:
Personally, experiencing the uncontrollable Parkinsons-esque jerking was enough to throw me off of it for good, I don't want to find out what long term side effects are. I'll let y'all find that out for me.

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Ok I'm glad to hear someone else had this happen to them and it wasnt just me, but it took about a year of nearly daily use to appear I even made a thread about it somewhere, people told me it was probably more related to benzo/opiate use but I definatly dont think it was. It started out as little toe wiggles and as I kept going it turned into my foot looking like it was trying to swat flys away and just straight up going crazy, then to little finger twitches, then to my jaw moving side to side, this all only lasted about a week or two while I was researching absurd amounts and kind of just slowly disapeared even without me stopping completely but turning down the amounts a bit, and its been about 7 weeks since I've ran out until a weekish ago I researched a bit but I have to disagree with you on the rest of you're post I para phrased to get to the main point, I think this chem is a blessing, just being blattantly reckless with it and mixing the kitchen sink with it is only when it shows its dark side. Though the stuttering has to be my most irritating side effect from it.
 
I notice a trend, I wonder if others notice the same:

If you used MXE several days in a row and then quit using it, for a period life appears to be considerably boring - unless you use again. Actions you take have smaller reward for a while and because of it things seem monotonous and less interesting than they would if you hadn't binged.

Can anyone relate?
 
cryptix420 said:
Personally, experiencing the uncontrollable Parkinsons-esque jerking was enough to throw me off of it for good, I don't want to find out what long term side effects are. I'll let y'all find that out for me
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Btw, you're not the first one mention something like this. What were your symptoms like? Please tell me/us more. Thanks :)
 
Asante said:
I notice a trend, I wonder if others notice the same:

If you used MXE several days in a row and then quit using it, for a period life appears to be considerably boring - unless you use again. Actions you take have smaller reward for a while and because of it things seem monotonous and less interesting than they would if you hadn't binged.

Can anyone relate?
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if its just a few isolated days in a row ill probably experience an afterglow. But if that few days is part of longer binge of weeks or a month than after stopping using it i do feel life is a bit drab afterwards. That feeling is often what makes me want to dose up again.
 
after 2 days in a row the diminishing returns are really noticeable for me. not even because of tolerance it just feels less fun. i wish i had the willpower to just dose a couple times per month... even once a week is hard, but i know its for the best
 
Tolerance is upsetting to the point where you dose and regret it because you know you're gonna have to wait even longer to get to your sweet place...
 
I must stress the waste of material and frankly time that comes with binging on this substance. We all know it is extremely moreish, however how many of you have gone through multiple 48 hour binges?

In my history of using this substance, I've gone through approximately a dozen 48-hour binges. What I mean by this is I would stay awake for up to and sometimes over 48 hours while using the entire time, dosing probably once an hour, maybe every other hour during the later points in the binge. While this substance is warming and beautiful at the start, towards the 18 to 20 hour mark it begins to feel metallic and cold. It loses it's warmth and begins to feel neurotoxic and chemically. It begins to have a fumigated type of taste and metallic smell that only happens after abusing it for many hours at a time.

The negatives of doing this are obvious. As I often find myself laying in bed 50+ hours after my initial dose, I often find my heart racing, my body feeling stimulated and fatigued yet hyper and twitchy. I feel metallic, almost like loose-leaf paper in that I feel crinkly and worn out.

Needless to say, this drug is best used in low doses at a time. Resist the urge to redose during the later hours of the night, it is simply not worth it!
 
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