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The Big & Dandy Methoxetamine Thread-11th Dose-50 grams and a kidney later..

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For me, using MXE sublingually, its all about the comeup. The period of rising effects to me is the most beneficial for personal growth.
 
I realize that this is not a social thread(sorta) and has to relate to mxe. But I don't think my youtube link to alan watts was completely irrelevant. I feel that this community does need a discipline and does need to "bring something back." I know I identified with it, being a "private buddha." None of this makes sense or captures the message of the link but I think it was an important one for us bluelighters to hear. I mean, what is the point of these "enlightening" experiences on mxe if we can't have a discussion about them and play around with these ideas? I think we have covered the bases regarding mxe dose and roa, shouldn't we be talking about something more important? We have 11 incarnations of shit. This is a social thread. You want to limit the discussion solely to mxe in and of itself. Fine. I have a question about a side effect I have been having. Little dots appear in my field of vision momentarily and then go away. It lasts about 2 seconds. Ths happens a couple of times a day. Idk if this is Hppd or what? Has anyone experienced similiar side effects in vision while not on the drug. It's not a "flashback." It's like my vision is being negatively effected with these very brief "dot(s)" that kind of appear in my vision and disappear almost instantly. I just repeated myself.
 
^the points you bring up in the first half of your response resonate with the idea of institutionalizing MXE so we can solidify it as a tool for spiritual growth, learning, inner exploration etc, and provide some foundation for what we have been learning with it so we can use that knowledge to help guide others who use this as a tool. As for your momentary blind spots, I can't relate personally, but it doesn't seem too troublesome if it is only momentary.
 
^This is what keeps me coming back to the mxe boards. Crazies. :p So you see, my youtube link DID have relevance to the ppl using mxe, imo. I just thought it interesting and relevant to the mxe discussion I am hearing(seeing.) Nothing particularly special about it, but worth a listen imo. I'll post it one more time and I'll stop posting for a bit. sorry jesus.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHR2KNZg8q0
 
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fuckUwil$on said:
....I have a question about a side effect I have been having. Little dots appear in my field of vision momentarily and then go away. It lasts about 2 seconds. Ths happens a couple of times a day. Idk if this is Hppd or what? Has anyone experienced similiar side effects in vision while not on the drug. It's not a "flashback." It's like my vision is being negatively effected with these very brief "dot(s)" that kind of appear in my vision and disappear almost instantly. I just repeated myself.
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I have this too. I have been experiencing it for about 2 months. Like you said, it goes away in a few seconds, doesn't block view or anything so I don't think we should be worried. Still I'd love to hear more input on this, is it progresivelly getting worse or will stay like that or go away eventually?
 
So, I've been wanting to try mxe and will be getting my hands on some in a few days. I've skimmed over a few threads trying to find a good first dose (not looking for something mind blowing and want it to be reasonably safe) and came to this conclusions:

- ~1mg test the day before just to be sure it's mxe (it's from a trusted vendor, but still better safe than sorry) and I don't have any strange issues with it
- about 20mg sub-lingual should be good for my first time
- don't mix with other drugs

Have a few questions:
will I be able to function at least semi normally at this dose if I have to?
this is still to low for any of the weirder stuff right?
does it still work if I swallow too soon?
anything else I should be aware of?
 
you could try 10mg for a first dose if you want to be sure you will be able to function normaly
orally works ok too so swallowing too soon isn't much of an issuie
 
Thanks, mate.

Do you think taking 10mg first and if I don't find it enough another 10mg later is fine?
 
crazycatman said:
Have a few questions:
will I be able to function at least semi normally at this dose if I have to?
At 20mgs, if it's good pure MXE, i'd say perhaps...perhaps not. Wouldn't wanna risk it if i were you
this is still to low for any of the weirder stuff right?
Not per se, 20mgs without any dissociative experience can be very much
does it still work if I swallow too soon?
Yes
anything else I should be aware of?
Be well prepared ;)
Do you think taking 10mg first and if I don't find it enough another 10mg later is fine?
Yes, MXE works very well with staggered doses. My recommendation: start low, i.e. with 5mgs and work your way up if needed. Better safe than sorry.
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Have fun :)
 
Thanks for the advice, will definitely take 5mg first (quality vendor so his stuff should be good). I can always take more if that's not enough.
 
I'm already considering getting more after the last session basically cost me my job, my flat and a lot of self respect and also half a tooth, well it was a cap on the tooth which fell off, but it is so alluring I want it.
 
I think i read in one of the B&D-Incarnations that MXE tends to literally burn your magnesium. Who else has noticed this?

Has it something to do with this?

The thing is, the Mg2+ NMDA receptor channel blockade is voltage dependent, so when ther neuron gets excited (depolarized), it kicks the Mg2+ out of the channel.
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(from here)
 
so after not touching mxe for three months i aquired 500mg from o local source.

I basicly bought it since its banned here and i thought id get some just to have it for special occasions.

It was really good mxe but the magic was gone, not from tolerance but it just gave me bad vibes since i had a slight abuse problem with the drug before.

Anyway this didnt stop me from dosing 4times in 2weeks and staying home from work cause i dosed on a week day blah...

Anyway i flushed the rest today and can happily say goodbye to this bitch of a drug.

Its the only drug that ive ever had a problem with, although 3meopcp was also hard to not dose while i had it.

its weird cause ketamine has never been hard to not dose even with a baggie laying around.
 
fuckUwil$on said:
^This is what keeps me coming back to the mxe boards. Crazies. :p So you see, my youtube link DID have relevance to the ppl using mxe, imo. I just thought it interesting and relevant to the mxe discussion I am hearing(seeing.) Nothing particularly special about it, but worth a listen imo. I'll post it one more time and I'll stop posting for a bit. sorry jesus.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHR2KNZg8q0
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It's more just linking a youtube link is more appropriate for the social threads. That's not to say you can't post music here, but this thread should be a place for information about MXE more than a trade of cool pictures and songs to watch under the influence ;)

It's not as bad as the random social chatter going on - just try to explain the relevance of the link, i.e. I love this song because it helps me hole deeper, or this song is great for low dose trips etc.. That said, don't use that as an excuse to make a million song posts either, it's cool to link relevant music here but the majority of the thread should stick to discussion of the effects etc. :)

Though this made me realise we had a Music on Psychedelics thread but not a Music on Dissociatives one! So, without further ado:
The Small & Handy Music on Dissociatives Thread :D
 
Some people have been posting that they have 'lost the magic'. I have found that taking a 5-10 day break every 1-3 weeks of moderate use (about 1 gram, but definitely no more than 2 grams without a firm break) keeps the tolerance in check. I'm currently half-way through my current 10-day break cycle, and I find myself thinking it would be nice to have some. However, I've also been considering the old saying "Once you get the message, hang up the phone". Maybe I've received the bulk of the message with this little compound and should take a longer break.
 
THCified said:
I think i read in one of the B&D-Incarnations that MXE tends to literally burn your magnesium. Who else has noticed this?

Has it something to do with this?

(from here)
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This is very interesting. The most annoying side effect of MXE use for me was the constant muscle twitchyness it gave me.
 
mal3volent said:
so....... i think i might have spoken too soon about my stuff

if you missed it, last time I was disappointed after doing the normal recommended starter amounts and feeling little to no effect. I tried again last night, this time a much larger dose, and IDK what it was but this time it hit me right in the nuts.

I took a large dose up the nose to begin, I'll say probably 80-100 mg... shit dude it came on way sooner than I expected it to. There was almost no come up period it was like i blasted off and was right there instantly.

Its hard to describe the sensation I had laying on my bed but this time it was MUCH closer to something like DXM but at the same time it was different. I felt already like a good 3rd plateau dxm trip... CEV everywhere, audio and visual flanging... when Id try to focus on something I couldnt get it to stay still. My clock was going all over the fucking wall... my ipad looked like someone had cranked the contrast levels up to 300%. At this point I was excited as hell because I was expecting to flush this shit and now I was having an amazing time. I did another line, and Ill have to admit I didn't measure it out this time, but it was a good amount probably another 70 or 80 mg... definitely overdid it a bit, but I was excited. I wanted to see how far it would go but wanted to save enough for next time as well.

This is the point when I went off the deep end... I began having spontaneous spurts of unconsciousness which felt like a horror movie in my room because I had all the lights out except my lava lamp and my walls are painted green. I must have gotten hot because the first thing I remember doing was taking off my shirt and then I must have forgotten what it was because I started fiddling with it, stretching it, rubbin it... eventually I figured out it was my shirt but I thought no cant be its much too big. I dont know if this is common or even what the effect is called but I noticed the same thing with the room itself. My room got waaaaaaaaaaaay bigger than usual. My bed felt like a fuckin playground or some shit. The greenness of everything took over. I would stare at shit like it was alive because I felt as if it were. Even though my lava lamp was probably hot as hell by this point i grabbed the top part off and tried to look through it. Wasnt anticipated how bright the light underneath would be. Mainly I was definitely getting the drunk walking type thing like you do on dxm where you feel like you are floating isntead of walking. I think at some point I began talking to myself or something else. I dont remember what I was saying. I could feel my heart beating more vividly than usual like THUD THUD THUD.... definitely confused overall. I kept looking for things and Id find them but wasnt satisfied. I took the cover off my ipad and felt of it for the longest time. Felt around in the dark and pulled a book off the shelf and I could not tell what in the fuck it was. I already had more little bumps laid out on my desk because I had anticipated not being able to get them out after I got this way. I took one and I swear to god it felt like a bullet. It burned a little but my nose wasnt stopped up like I was expecting it to be.

Guessing, at this point I probably had like 200mg in my body. I didnt really know up was up or whatever... my room kept morphing from like this big castle to normal size to itty bitty. I was no longer familiar with the items in my room either. I thought this was fucked up and wanted to leave but I couldnt get a lock on exactly where my door was, and once I did I think I was scared to open it because it had moved around so much. Somehow by this point all my clothes were off and I was on the floor spinning around trying to find some comfortable angle where I could get things to look right again, but it was no use. It was one of the scarier trips ive been on tbh. It felt like DXM on steriods, 4th plateau floating around not knowing where or who you are. To those who have never done a disassociative, this is the hardest thing to explain, truly not knowing where or what you are and still being able to function... seems unthinkable to the sober mind.

At some point I kept having the urge to spit. Then all of a sudden I knew I was going to throw up so I awkwardly found my way to my bedroom door and was probably stumbling around pathetically, naked, through the house to the bathroom. I missed the toilet the first time but luckily it was just water. I managed to clean up after myself and leave. I got cold after that instead of hot.. I felt better though. I couldnt have told you whether it was 3am or noon when I blacked out for good, but I woke up around 8am with a splitting headache. I got up and was still very much high but took two pills and went back down. Had FUCKED up dreams, like seriously fucked. Woke up at 11am for the first time feeling like I knew where I was. Its 6:20pm now and I still feel out of it. I managed to eat some chicken soup and a salad a while ago and that helped.
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Haha fucking quality. Welcome to the world of MXE mate. You did a huge initial first dose there btw. And then redosing roughly the same amount is never a good idea - because it brings back the most intense parts of the first dose, as well as adding to the dissociation like a normal dose (don't forget that)
Use this properly. A couple of tiny lines to build up your dissociation comfortably and then a 30mg(+or-) line to be in a blissful state of... dissociation - you guessed it.
Easily my favourite drug of all time. Try not to dose so heavily next time
Ondine said:
^^
Your dose discrepancy is interesting. Maybe what you have isn't actually MXE, but something like 3-MeO-PCP, poorly mixed in ratio with an inert powder? That might explain why one dose felt like nothing, while the other blasted you halfway to procyon
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No. That sounded like methox to me
 
cryptix420 said:
This is very interesting. The most annoying side effect of MXE use for me was the constant muscle twitchyness it gave me.
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Strange, i'm getting muscle twitches with psychedlics like 4-HO-DiPT, but not with MXE. But i don't attribute the twitches to the substance itself, i think it's more because of some sort of inner pressure, which's making me shaky!
 
I've IV'd MXE about 5 times now and the rush is pretty intense and unique for sure. Also music sounds amazing and it makes me into a kick ass dancer, just like dxm does. (I have a large tolerance to dxm) I IVd like 125mg and it only felt like a 2nd plat dxm trip to me.
 
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