The Big & Dandy Methoxetamine Thread-11th Dose-50 grams and a kidney later..
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I completely disagree with you on sublingual administration being only as effective as oral and it's fairly premature to call it a myth!
I've consistently found that sublingual or buccal (I would usually use buccal - on gums) adminisration requires at least 1/3rd less mxe for the same effect and kicks in much much faster. Even when dissolved in water to start with (I have used liquid dosing before when without a scale)
Myth: definitely not busted yet!
I've consistently found that sublingual or buccal (I would usually use buccal - on gums) adminisration requires at least 1/3rd less mxe for the same effect and kicks in much much faster. Even when dissolved in water to start with (I have used liquid dosing before when without a scale)
Myth: definitely not busted yet!
Sweetshare
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I really addicted to MXE. Even after a month of abstinence, I miss him ...
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Actually I holed on 50 mg's for the first time yesterday. Tolerance hasn't showed up yet. 3-5 times a week but only this last week because I have 2 weeks off from work and everything so yeah... Small doses aswell. 20 mg's without much of a redose most of the time.
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I usually hold all saliva from a sublingual dose for a good 20 minutes. Admittedly I haven't tried spitting it but I don't swallow until I can no longer taste any bitterness.
I have tried washing MXE with acetone. I didn't think it was that impure, I was just hoping for a whiter product. I forget if I discarded or evaporated the solvent, but after recrystallising I was left with brownish crystals, compared to the off-white ones I had before.
I have tried washing MXE with acetone. I didn't think it was that impure, I was just hoping for a whiter product. I forget if I discarded or evaporated the solvent, but after recrystallising I was left with brownish crystals, compared to the off-white ones I had before.
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I've been wanting to try MXE for some time now and I finally found a decent source. 
My problem is I'm unsure if the scales I'm looking at are good enough. I'm not sure if sourcing of scales is allowed so I'll just say what I've seen is in the $20-$60 range. Would those be reliable enough to weigh out small doses? I'm concerned about this because we plan on trying this as a group and I don't want anyone having too much their first time or anything.
My second question I'm hearing conflicting reports on MXE feeling like a mild opiate at low doses. I've been trying to troll through all the mega threads but you know how that can be.... Do you guys ever take small doses for an "opiated" effect? I'd love to have some laying around at all time if that's true :D.
I'm really looking forward to giving it a go, I plan on eventually having an m-hole but will take things slow with it. I don't want it becoming my new bad habit.
I know its probably been answered a zillion times already but one last thing: I've only done DXM since I've never seen K anywhere, I can't do DXM anymore because its just....awful. But I did have one trip on it where I had these amazing CEVs..I'm hoping MXE can provide those. How do the MXE CEVs compare to the DXM ones? Can they be driven by the music as well?
Man sorry for rambling...just so damn excited...:D
My problem is I'm unsure if the scales I'm looking at are good enough. I'm not sure if sourcing of scales is allowed so I'll just say what I've seen is in the $20-$60 range. Would those be reliable enough to weigh out small doses? I'm concerned about this because we plan on trying this as a group and I don't want anyone having too much their first time or anything.
My second question I'm hearing conflicting reports on MXE feeling like a mild opiate at low doses. I've been trying to troll through all the mega threads but you know how that can be.... Do you guys ever take small doses for an "opiated" effect? I'd love to have some laying around at all time if that's true :D.
I'm really looking forward to giving it a go, I plan on eventually having an m-hole but will take things slow with it. I don't want it becoming my new bad habit.
I know its probably been answered a zillion times already but one last thing: I've only done DXM since I've never seen K anywhere, I can't do DXM anymore because its just....awful. But I did have one trip on it where I had these amazing CEVs..I'm hoping MXE can provide those. How do the MXE CEVs compare to the DXM ones? Can they be driven by the music as well?
Man sorry for rambling...just so damn excited...:D
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At low doses (15-25mg nasally) for me, I do feel opiate warmth along with an interesting headspace. I always eyeball my doses but if you worried I'd definitely recommend using a scale - at least until you become better acquainted with it! 
The tail end of large MXE doses 75-125mg gives me extremely vivid CEVs and even OEVs, I'll let you be the judge of that though
I've taken doses as high as 300mg before but have very little memory of that trip. This dose could be considered dangerous and I do not recommend it.
It's interesting to note I have NEVER received a hangover from MXE before, the most I've experienced is a minor headache and feeling more thirsty than usual.
The tail end of large MXE doses 75-125mg gives me extremely vivid CEVs and even OEVs, I'll let you be the judge of that though
I've taken doses as high as 300mg before but have very little memory of that trip. This dose could be considered dangerous and I do not recommend it.
It's interesting to note I have NEVER received a hangover from MXE before, the most I've experienced is a minor headache and feeling more thirsty than usual.
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HeadphonesandLSD : The B&D Scale and Balance Thread
Balance discussion is a pretty important part of HR so its discussion is encouraged.
This thread can be found in the PD index.
Balance discussion is a pretty important part of HR so its discussion is encouraged.
This thread can be found in the PD index.
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That's good news, the reason I had to stop chasing the CEVs on DXM was due to the body load/hangover. I was hoping MXE would be "cleaner" and it sounds like it is. I would love to try K too obviously but I have no source so it's a pipe dream.
I thought about eye balling...but since I'm sharing I want to make sure I know what I'm giving to my friends. Plus the scale will come in handy if I ever decide to try any other RCs (have an eye on a couple). I found scale one listed for $55 that's on sale for $25 right now so I'm just going to go ahead and grab it since it was begin used by many people on another forum. It says it's accurate down to 1mg so I reckon it'll do the trick.
Transform: Thank you for the link! I'm new to having to have such accurate scales so I wasn't sure. I'm all about the harm reduction..wish we would have had bluelight when I was in high school. Few of my friends would still be alive.
Thank you guys. I have a little wait until my goodies arrive but when my scale gets here I'll partake of a sample and let y'all know how it goes. I'm really looking forward to trying it. I love jamming to some classical music and floating around in my own head. >)
I thought about eye balling...but since I'm sharing I want to make sure I know what I'm giving to my friends. Plus the scale will come in handy if I ever decide to try any other RCs (have an eye on a couple
). I found scale one listed for $55 that's on sale for $25 right now so I'm just going to go ahead and grab it since it was begin used by many people on another forum. It says it's accurate down to 1mg so I reckon it'll do the trick.Transform: Thank you for the link! I'm new to having to have such accurate scales so I wasn't sure. I'm all about the harm reduction..wish we would have had bluelight when I was in high school. Few of my friends would still be alive.
Thank you guys. I have a little wait until my goodies arrive but when my scale gets here I'll partake of a sample and let y'all know how it goes. I'm really looking forward to trying it. I love jamming to some classical music and floating around in my own head. >)
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Well then, congrats
How was it?Don't do MXE too often, it tends to loose it's magic with too regular use.
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It was.. awesome.. when it kicked in though I felt a sense of panic and thoughts started coming like "do I REALLY want this?" but I let go and all was fine. It felt like the bed I was in became a rocketship and I was flying through space, like a roller coaster ride and I was visiting all kinds of beautiful places, mostly digital chambers with matrix like letters on the walls flashing neon purple and blue. Definitely something I want to do again soon.
I will now attempt to put into words the MXE trips I had on the first and the third days of christmas 2012, the Holes of which were the most intense and experientally rich I had to date. Much will be lost as the experiences were so very intense that they defied scrutiny, I was too caught up in the experience to keep track of it all. To not make the post too long I will try to cut it down to its essence and do a lot of skipping.
I had not used any recreational drugs in a month, it was time to get out there again.
DECEMBER 25 - 100mg MXE (30 + 20 + 20 + 30 mg)
THE GOOD WOMB
I had taken my 30mg sublingual, which ripped up my reality hard, and kept me edging on anxiety for a while. Then I took 20mg sublingual and retreated to bed. In bed I had a Good Womb experience. I regressed partially to being a foetus floating in amniotic fluid in the womb. I was completely carefree. The foetus didnt need to breathe, didnt eat or go to the bathroom, all was provided by the umbilical cord and the nurturing living environment surrounding him, in a life that until them had been entirely free of problematic external circumstances. It was so peaceful, so comfortable, the ultimate Christmas feeling and this for someone who prefers to be left alone on christmas.
I had dinner, met with online friends and had a good time, then parted with them and took 20mg sublingual. The effect was markedly delayed so impatiently, while the incense sacrifice of the former dose was still burning I took another 30mg sublingual. I sat myself down and then the 50mg began hitting me all at once driving me into the Hole.
EGO DEATH AND THE BIRTH EXPERIENCE
I got higher and higher, but also more and more filled with unrest. I got focussed on my breathing, forcing myself to breathe, trying to keep it calm but gasping for breath, the experience intensified beyond anything I had experienced. My inner DJ began spinning electronic samples ever faster and faster, tighter and tighter, the visuals became such a whitewater of imagery that I just couldnt keep up with it, thoughts spun faster and faster. Part of me wanted to just scream out loud in despair. Every now and then I opened my eyes in utter turmoil but I knew that whatever it was, I had to DO THIS. So I gasthered courage, closed my eyes and got overwhelmed again.
I felt tremendous pressure on my body, being pushed through the birth canal. At the same time I was utterly disgusted with my obesity and general state of my body and life. It got worse and worse. I clutched my body in my arms in a one-person-hug and began unconditionally accepting my body, my life, my actions and inactions I felt were wrong, I was being pushed and pushed though the birth canal. My body became as large and a true universe in itself as I clutched it, held on for dear life, whispering my acceptance of my body and self ever more fully. It became spiritual. Acceptance of Self became worship of God, surrender to God. Through accepting myself I let God into my heart, through surrender to Life I durrendered completely to the Divine Plan, whatever it was.
I surrendered completely to a perfect storm of complete annihilation on all levels. By surrendering to Ego Death I surrendered to Life itself, to the Universe.
Suddenly it all decompressed, agony torned into bliss and the unspeakabvly intense experience became highly euphoric. The baby was born. With closed eyes I raised my arms to the sky. Slimy amniotic fluid was oozing off of me, I was breathing freely. I groaned "Merry Christmas" and let myself come to my senses.
It was the most extreme suffering i had to endure to date, but I never had been closer to God, I felt. It was all worth it. It was religion in its purest form, complete surrender to the cosmos entirely, the ultimate faith that all would be well.
I went to bed feeling blessed and exhausted.
DECEMBER 26 - 30mg MXE (30 mg)
This is an interlude. I did an experiment. I took 30mg in my mouth, dissolved it in saliva and kept it under my tongue for 10 minutes, then spat it out and rinsed out my mouth, then waited an hour and a half to see what the effects of the sublingual phase were. They were negligable, less than 5mg MXE equivalent, so I took 30mg an hour and a half after, orally. A full fledged classical MXE experience unfolded, 10min quicker because the mouth delay of sublingual use was bypassed. I abandoned sublingual use as irrational. Sublingual use in essence is oral use with a mouth delay that adds very little to the experience.
DECEMBER 27 - 110mg MXE (20 + 20 + 20 + 20 + 30 mg)
The third day of christmas is a rather special day for me, the day I had my heart attack in 2002. This day marked the tenth anniversary, and no second attack had followed it. Reason for celebration!
THE PARTY
My best friend and I got together and had a bit of a drug party, discussing lively. He dove into beer and weed and I set myself up with 3x 20mg ORAL MXE. These were happy and thoughtful experiences, despite the festive atmosphere serious life topics were not shunned. It was very pleasant.
THE STILLNESS
After he left, I took a fourth 20mg orally, closed my eyes in a candlelit room and sat in stillness, quietly musing. I reflected in part on a movie from Burkina Faso called Yaaba that I had seen the day before, about the lives of an old socially outcast lady and two children intertwining. It became a wider reflection on life itself.
THE CELEBRATION OF LIFE AND DEATH
At 3 AM I took a dose of 30mg orally and sat myself down. Hole blackness began swirling and I retreated to bed. In bed, the visuals began coiling and then took shape. At first I saw trees from above, and soared over an endless jungle. Then I saw masses of colorful people in colorful clothes all walk in one direction together, I realized it was the journey of Man through Time. My inner DJ spun joyous music throughout. I took a sharp pull to the right and was paddled in a canoo through a cave, lit by torches held by the men in the canoo I sat and the one before it, a sharp twist again, I saw the beauty of nature, rich and splendorous. I saw a huge mountain of skulls, but this wasnt an ominous sign of death, but remnants of those who passed on and found peace and completeness in death and carried their journeys on to other lives. The souls that had inhabited every single one of those skulls were in peace. Life and Death was One, and it was all Good. I travelled on and on, through unspeakable visual splendor and divine joy, until I finally, two hours after going to bed, descended into sleep. It had been beautiful without limits, my most visually symbolic and joyous Hole ever. It was as if I had been given a glimpse of the afterlife.
Thats the gist of it guys, I hope you got something out of it.
One thing I learned from this trip is that it PAYS to spend a month sober before difing in again, it was so much more profound, and at significantly lower dosage.
I also learned that oral MXE is just as good as sublingual and therefore preferable.
I had not used any recreational drugs in a month, it was time to get out there again.
DECEMBER 25 - 100mg MXE (30 + 20 + 20 + 30 mg)
THE GOOD WOMB
I had taken my 30mg sublingual, which ripped up my reality hard, and kept me edging on anxiety for a while. Then I took 20mg sublingual and retreated to bed. In bed I had a Good Womb experience. I regressed partially to being a foetus floating in amniotic fluid in the womb. I was completely carefree. The foetus didnt need to breathe, didnt eat or go to the bathroom, all was provided by the umbilical cord and the nurturing living environment surrounding him, in a life that until them had been entirely free of problematic external circumstances. It was so peaceful, so comfortable, the ultimate Christmas feeling and this for someone who prefers to be left alone on christmas.
I had dinner, met with online friends and had a good time, then parted with them and took 20mg sublingual. The effect was markedly delayed so impatiently, while the incense sacrifice of the former dose was still burning I took another 30mg sublingual. I sat myself down and then the 50mg began hitting me all at once driving me into the Hole.
EGO DEATH AND THE BIRTH EXPERIENCE
I got higher and higher, but also more and more filled with unrest. I got focussed on my breathing, forcing myself to breathe, trying to keep it calm but gasping for breath, the experience intensified beyond anything I had experienced. My inner DJ began spinning electronic samples ever faster and faster, tighter and tighter, the visuals became such a whitewater of imagery that I just couldnt keep up with it, thoughts spun faster and faster. Part of me wanted to just scream out loud in despair. Every now and then I opened my eyes in utter turmoil but I knew that whatever it was, I had to DO THIS. So I gasthered courage, closed my eyes and got overwhelmed again.
I felt tremendous pressure on my body, being pushed through the birth canal. At the same time I was utterly disgusted with my obesity and general state of my body and life. It got worse and worse. I clutched my body in my arms in a one-person-hug and began unconditionally accepting my body, my life, my actions and inactions I felt were wrong, I was being pushed and pushed though the birth canal. My body became as large and a true universe in itself as I clutched it, held on for dear life, whispering my acceptance of my body and self ever more fully. It became spiritual. Acceptance of Self became worship of God, surrender to God. Through accepting myself I let God into my heart, through surrender to Life I durrendered completely to the Divine Plan, whatever it was.
I surrendered completely to a perfect storm of complete annihilation on all levels. By surrendering to Ego Death I surrendered to Life itself, to the Universe.
Suddenly it all decompressed, agony torned into bliss and the unspeakabvly intense experience became highly euphoric. The baby was born. With closed eyes I raised my arms to the sky. Slimy amniotic fluid was oozing off of me, I was breathing freely. I groaned "Merry Christmas" and let myself come to my senses.
It was the most extreme suffering i had to endure to date, but I never had been closer to God, I felt. It was all worth it. It was religion in its purest form, complete surrender to the cosmos entirely, the ultimate faith that all would be well.
I went to bed feeling blessed and exhausted.
DECEMBER 26 - 30mg MXE (30 mg)
This is an interlude. I did an experiment. I took 30mg in my mouth, dissolved it in saliva and kept it under my tongue for 10 minutes, then spat it out and rinsed out my mouth, then waited an hour and a half to see what the effects of the sublingual phase were. They were negligable, less than 5mg MXE equivalent, so I took 30mg an hour and a half after, orally. A full fledged classical MXE experience unfolded, 10min quicker because the mouth delay of sublingual use was bypassed. I abandoned sublingual use as irrational. Sublingual use in essence is oral use with a mouth delay that adds very little to the experience.
DECEMBER 27 - 110mg MXE (20 + 20 + 20 + 20 + 30 mg)
The third day of christmas is a rather special day for me, the day I had my heart attack in 2002. This day marked the tenth anniversary, and no second attack had followed it. Reason for celebration!
THE PARTY
My best friend and I got together and had a bit of a drug party, discussing lively. He dove into beer and weed and I set myself up with 3x 20mg ORAL MXE. These were happy and thoughtful experiences, despite the festive atmosphere serious life topics were not shunned. It was very pleasant.
THE STILLNESS
After he left, I took a fourth 20mg orally, closed my eyes in a candlelit room and sat in stillness, quietly musing. I reflected in part on a movie from Burkina Faso called Yaaba that I had seen the day before, about the lives of an old socially outcast lady and two children intertwining. It became a wider reflection on life itself.
THE CELEBRATION OF LIFE AND DEATH
At 3 AM I took a dose of 30mg orally and sat myself down. Hole blackness began swirling and I retreated to bed. In bed, the visuals began coiling and then took shape. At first I saw trees from above, and soared over an endless jungle. Then I saw masses of colorful people in colorful clothes all walk in one direction together, I realized it was the journey of Man through Time. My inner DJ spun joyous music throughout. I took a sharp pull to the right and was paddled in a canoo through a cave, lit by torches held by the men in the canoo I sat and the one before it, a sharp twist again, I saw the beauty of nature, rich and splendorous. I saw a huge mountain of skulls, but this wasnt an ominous sign of death, but remnants of those who passed on and found peace and completeness in death and carried their journeys on to other lives. The souls that had inhabited every single one of those skulls were in peace. Life and Death was One, and it was all Good. I travelled on and on, through unspeakable visual splendor and divine joy, until I finally, two hours after going to bed, descended into sleep. It had been beautiful without limits, my most visually symbolic and joyous Hole ever. It was as if I had been given a glimpse of the afterlife.
Thats the gist of it guys, I hope you got something out of it.
One thing I learned from this trip is that it PAYS to spend a month sober before difing in again, it was so much more profound, and at significantly lower dosage.
I also learned that oral MXE is just as good as sublingual and therefore preferable.
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I would say that is a good dose for going out to a club. :D
I cant imagine taking MXE in a club. I always want to be on my own on the drug, and focussed on what its doing. If the outside world gets too hectic I get dysphoric until I'm in the quiet again. Moving around much under the influence is dysphoric too for me.
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