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The Big & Dandy Methoxetamine Thread-10th Dose-Addiction? But I'm only on it 24/7...

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dont try it. MXE and serotonin effecting drugs is a bad combo, done it a few times and every time its been fucking awful. probably dangerous. as for MXE and booze, also a bad combo. infact mixing anything apart from benzos with MXE is odd
 
This was mentioned in an earlier B&D MXE thread, but I'd like to confirm additional anecdotal evidence. MXE effects people differently in different parts of the world. Comparing the effects at sea level/high humidity/more people/less nature with the effects at high elevation/low humidity/more nature are like night and day. Obviously set and setting are crucial components to having a quality experience, and having the right environment, people, culture, music etc. will influence the experience, but the way in which atmospheric conditions effect the experience is very intriguing. There could be many explanations, some of which are more scientific (less energy impedance at high elevation and low humidity) and some of which are more metaphysical (different 'spirits' inhabit different lands). Anyone else notice these things?
 
Regarding the low potency european MXE; could it be freebase, as it seems to be not very water soluble?
Or what's the deal with this stuff?
 
Judging from what I've read and my own experience MXE seems to magnify the ego in a much "cleaner" way than most other drugs. What I mean by "cleaner," in general terms, is: alcohol may magnify the ego, but it's clumsy; cocaine, meth, or similar stimulants may magnify the ego, but they ramp up people's baser bodily urges (sex/violence) to the point of volatility. MXE magnifies the ego, but it dissociates one from their body, too, and this may be what, for some people, allows it to be a more faithful but amplified representation of their sober ego relative to what other drugs offer.

If you become an intolerable ass on MXE alone, even more so than with other drugs, it's likely that it's because you are, in fact, an ass.
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This is a great observation and well expressed. I would definitely agree with that. That's what I love about MXE: it can be very recreational while at the same time giving you an opportunity to observe the patterns and tendencies which make up your egoic self.
 
wowww coming up on 40mg ummm, i feel like a robot but uh... is it okay to take another 40mg? good high ya?

gonna try a heavy dose with 80mg, wish me luck, hoping to m-hole/out of body experience. no tolerance included.
i'll just have my mini trip report here ya?
 
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have you been able to integrate what you've learned into sober life and affect positive changes?
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Yes, I've taken positive changes into sober life. Earlier in this thread I described how some insights gained on MXE led to the completion - from concept to finished product - of a personal project I had been dreaming of for years but was unable to begin due to mental blockages. I'm extremely happy for having done it (my personal project) and the satisfaction I gained from the experience (which was all done sober) will stay with me.

MXE (or any other substance) is no guaranteed path to greater self-awareness. It can be a catalyst for positive change, but it depends on an individual's mind state and a thousand other variables.

When I compare the number of times I've taken MXE to the number of profound experiences with lasting positive changes I've had on it, I see that the percentage the latter makes up is less than 1%. I've overused it, and it's caused me some problems - mostly increasing poly drug abuse because when I start on MXE I want to combine it with everything. However, compared to other substances which I have used irresponsibly (I'm sorry to say that this is a long term issue for me), I feel that MXE has been the kindest and most forgiving.

When I look at the alcohol, marijuana, stimulant, benzo, and opiate binges I've been on, I see nothing but destruction left behind those times. Alcohol and benzos in particular I feel have been entirely detrimental with not a thing to show or even a fond memory to recall. This irresponsible use has left me with permanent health problems which I can only accept with full responsibility. In contrast, with MXE I can point to three experiences which I feel certain have altered me for the better.

I understand that there is an issue with this substance tending toward to mania and delusional thinking, and as I say I have experienced a small number of great things for a huge number of useless or forgettable things with it. But from years of use and abuse of substances, I feel MXE is a rarity in that it can spontaneously bring about positive self-reflection even when one isn't searching for it.

This is just my opinion and personal experience. No more, no less.
 
you've got no fond memories of good times from those drugs? wtf. every alcohol, stim, opie, whatever binge ive been on has been good. the after effects have been shit but ive had amazing times on them. MXE has taught me things, but its weird. its helped me with some problems in my life but i hardly touch it now, plus the batch ive got is odd. did it for the first time in ages last night and woke up feeling grotty with high bpm
 
Excellent read, thanks. ive experienced that, very DMT like. if i try and sleep on the stuff i feel like im traveling through something, an alien land, a few times when ive taken quite a lot of MXE ive had DMT style ego death and met this female presence, like mother nature, it was amazing. pure love. it also reminds me of some sort of meditation kinda thing, ive meditated on mxe before, sat on my bed eyes shut everything feels like its stopped, no thoughts, time stopped dead, right in the moment
 
yea ive had the memory fragment thing as well, kept snapping into extremely lucid dreams, then id snap out of them thinking they'd happen, and so on. but beyond that ive been to a void, thought i was gonna die or something. although that was mixing it with booze as well, messy combo
 
yeah "coming home" is spot on. makes me feel like a child at christmas or something. first time i properly went deep on it i felt like i was swimming in the carpet, whole room became so complex, there was a kinda map thing on a table of my friends house and i got sucked into it, kinda like if i watch a film or something on MXE and i become a part of it, was crazy. and the euphoria was beyond anything ive experienced before apart from DMT, was ground breaking. smoking DMT on MDMA is probably the most euphoric thing ive experienced, but this was close. decent MXE from a few years ago. it also gave me an afterglow which lasted for days, snapped me out the depression i got from abusing stimulants and things, was like being re-born. was laying on the carpet feeling a constant orgasm, giving birth to myself, was fucking odd and amazing. me and my friend lost it completely, we must have looked like nutters crawling around on the carpet for hours making weird fucked up noises, but it was profound. think that was 120mg. the MXE i have now is shit compared, cant even get wonky on it, just feel sloppy and odd
 
how much of the actual hole experience do you guys bring back to sober world?

i mean, all the 'revelation' trips i have basically fade away as I sober up until finally i can't remember nothing worthwhile, just that i had an awesome trip and random bits and pieces...

it was especially frustrating after this one trip when i got contacted by a higher power which explained to me how death, god, heaven and all that jazz works. so enlightening and it felt so 'real' too. and i'm not even religious. I do generally fear death though, so that trip was really comforting. but all the important stuff was gone so fast. I even remember thinking 'NO! please let THIS stay with me, just this little bit maybe? something!'. BAM, nothing.

anyway the question is, are there any ways to keep some of that 'from heaven' stuff? ;p
 
Depends, you can learn from it much like any other trip, DMT has taught me things and opened my mind, psychedelic revelations/epiphanies. can be confusing though
 
agreed

makes me feel reborn, a new appreciation for life instead of taking it for granted
 
I`ve had the usual MXE that does the rounds,the slightly off white grainy stuff,the good gear. Every time i had that gear it was the nutts,proper blew me away,well the other day i managed to hold of some gear that was pure white,like talc and slightly grainy,not like the usual gear at all,well this new gear i had must have been the purest i`ve ever tried,totally blew my socks off and some more.

I was sceptical at first because all the other types i`d heard of were shite,but this was an exception,whilst on it i was thinking this aint mexxy,this is pure dust,this the old angel from the past...So if you ever come accross the pure white gear don`t dismiss it like i did,you need about half as much as the usual mexxy.
 
How much more efficient is rectal compared to sublingual? I remember reading it somewhere ages ago, but can't for the life of me find it again.
Normally it's sublingual = 30% bioavailability and rectal 60-70ish but mxe doesn't comply when oral vs nasal so I can't really be so sure. Anyone know?

Planning on a 110mg rectal dosing tomorrow night depending on work but currently having poo issues, so if they're fairly similar sublingual might have to be an option.
 
nothing, and i mean nothing compares to my first m-hole experience yesterday. i was convinced it was either the afterlife or that i had descended to another realm. the only thing that kept me grounded to this world was the experience of being pulled in all directions from the mxe which kept reminding me that i was on drugs and even then i couldnt be sure that i didnt overdose and go to the afterlife. i can't nearly describe what i felt or or saw. i can say it started with me plunging into an abyss, i recall seeing my coworker and him telling me to move some metal risers and other duct and repeating that message over and over (i get told this all day long). before long i became the duct, i became plywood, i became just a piece of metal being pulled to the left, to the right, thrown around... from there on i lost all sense of identity, plunging into a world where there was just me and my computer which i was sitting in front of. my eyes were open but i just saw my computer. i looked around and there were beings, souls everywhere. we were all connected like gears turning and i kept turning which would turn the rest of the gears, it looked like a empty room with a computer but it felt like a plane the extended infinitely. when i would get pulled downwards (that sensation) it was like i was descending through a tunnel, down through the earth, blackness consumed me. everything consumed me... a trip without sound was pleasant and yet unpleasant, all i could hear was the humming of the universe. i lived in that realm forever, where i was the center of the universe and these gears around me were all centered around me and my turning powered the universe, as if i was a god or something and yet... i was so helpless. it felt like everybody was feeding off of my soul. i could interact with the computer but everything was foreign, i remembered that there were tabs on google chrome but each seemed to contain a different universe and i couldn't read. i knew how the interface worked but i could not read a single word written. when i hit youtube i felt it, i knew the interface, i clicked a random song and dubstep started. the song lasted an eternity. whenever i would plunge downwards (from the sensation of the drug) i would enter a new universe, all of which i only interpreted it as an extension of all of the same "forms", my desk still existed but i interpretted it entirely differently, like i had lost all 5 senses and replaced them with 1 universal sense, "is this how stars see the universe" i wondered. my thoughts we disintegrated, i didnt think in english, i thought in the language that babys think in, the language that dogs think in, the language we think in when we are thinking without realizing we are thinking. everything was distorted. everything was otherworldly. at some point i entered the virtual universe, i existed only inside of the computer, everyone else who was on the computer extended their souls into the computer as well and i could see them, i couldn't believe such a reality could exist inside a computer. i clicked on bluelight and looked at the replys, i couldn't read them but i could read the souls of the profiles of each member. i existed in the virtual world until the end of the trip...
 
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How much more efficient is rectal compared to sublingual? I remember reading it somewhere ages ago, but can't for the life of me find it again.
Normally it's sublingual = 30% bioavailability and rectal 60-70ish but mxe doesn't comply when oral vs nasal so I can't really be so sure. Anyone know?

Planning on a 110mg rectal dosing tomorrow night depending on work but currently having poo issues, so if they're fairly similar sublingual might have to be an option.
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i think you're on the right track. people are saying rectal ~twice as potent as oral.
I did not have luck so far but i've never plugged anything before. and i was also having poo issues (or rather not pooing issues). so if your problem is not being empty then you are right to go sublingual for now.
 
I'm going out on a limb here, but it really seems like MXE is more powerful around the full moon. Everyone around me the past couple days has been having very mind-blowing, euphoric, spiritual, DMT-esque experiences with it, even the people who normally have only mild appreciation of MXE. It sounds like the people posting here are having similarly strong experiences the past couple days. Anyone think there is some solid correlation here?
 
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