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The Big & Dandy Methoxetamine Thread-10th Dose-Addiction? But I'm only on it 24/7...

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vortech said:
Indeed it does need elaboration and it's a can of worms and involves a lot of other cans of worms so to say, and I don't have the answer. Should it be founded as a church, citing spiritual aspects, or should it be found as an independent committee of health and medical professionals citing therapeutic potential? No existing institutional model accommodates this particular can of worms with its unprecedented cross-disciplinary value and breadth of reach. It would be nice if the world could get over all the political boundaries and come together over nascent subjects such as these special compounds and make a level-headed action to collectively facilitate a controlled exploration of the potential benefits of this compound for the common goal of making the world a better place.
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Been there as well, same thought pattern! =D
 
THCified said:
Btw, nicely said ColtDan, it indeed could be a bit odd.
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thanks =D

choco1ate said:
it could be safe to drive on a comedown after the dissociation is gone, depending on how it affects you. its not at all like dxm where you're incapacitated for hours after the peak
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if anyone attempts to drive in such a short space of time afterwards they're a fucking nutcase and are risking their life and other peoples lives. be sensible. couldnt think of a worse drug to try and drive on. 5 hours after isnt long enough by far. ive woken up 10 hours later still wonky after this stuff before. then again the quality of mxe was better then, dunno how it is now. probably piss poor weak, stimulating and mildly dislocating at best. few years ago a small line would get me wonky, numb and dislocated for hours, bigger line would get ego loss and complete connection to everything like a DMT trip or something, was wild stuff
 
Hi,

Let me start by saying about my MXE history. I have been taking this drug for over a year and a half now. I would say very addictided at times. During my peak I would say I was using 2 grams a week. Mostly using for an anti depressant effect and energy boost though the day....going deep at night with very high doses. I would like to point out that this drug caused alot of dysphoria at times.

Today I was reading about PCP. A drug I would love to try, although I don't think I will have the chance as I live in the UK. During the day I was watching some PCP freak out videos on you tube... Mainly this one.....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iw15hUj3OXM

My girlfriend saw this I said straight away that I had rolled around the living room like that. I myself had no memory of this but it freaked me out. The 3 times I did do this was on 3 occasions I had been drinking alcohol with taking the drug.

Has these freak outs every happened to anyone else on MXE?

I would also like people's opinion who have had experience with MXE AND PCP. How closely related are these drugs? Everyone's seems to compare MXE to Ketamine? A drug I've never took.

Thanks
 
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There's a lot of similarity between MXE and 3-MeO-PCP although they each have their own character, I can't say about standard PCP but I would suspect that its not too different either.

From my experience mixing MXE and alcohol can lead to all sorts of behaviours, mixing alcohol with 3-MeO-PCP seems to be the same if not moreso.

I wouldn't describe any of my own experiences as "freakouts", but who knows what some of behaviours may have looked like from outside of my own head! ;)
 
phatboy303 said:
There's a lot of similarity between MXE and 3-MeO-PCP although they each have their own character, I can't say about standard PCP but I would suspect that its not too different either.

From my experience mixing MXE and alcohol can lead to all sorts of behaviours, mixing alcohol with 3-MeO-PCP seems to be the same if not moreso.

I wouldn't describe any of my own experiences as "freakouts", but who knows what some of behaviours may have looked like from outside of my own head! ;)
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3-meo-PCP is a drug I have also been looking into. I was reading an article about the guy who "invented" methoxetamine that 3-meo-PCP was the best drug he had ever consumed at a 15mg dose. Im reading a good starting does is around 8mg. However, I will need to purchase scales for this chemical because of the tiny amounts involved.
 
Pb109 said:
3-meo-PCP is a drug I have also been looking into. I was reading an article about the guy who "invented" methoxetamine that 3-meo-PCP was the best drug he had ever consumed at a 15mg dose. Im reading a good starting does is around 8mg. However, I will need to purchase scales for this chemical because of the tiny amounts involved.
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I'd definitely recommend it, i'd go so far as to say its my new favourite in fact. Its certainly worth being sensible with the weights when dealing with something this potent, cross-tolerance with MXE is a factor though.
 
A couple pieces of advice. I noticed more negative side effects with intranasal administration, namely skin breakout/acne around the face. This has been mentioned before in previous versions of this thread. Switching to sublingual or oral administration resolves this issue.
Secondly, when using MXE intentionally for therapeutic effects (for instance phantom limb pain or neuropathy) the dose should be titrated up slowly to avoid the wonky psychedelic effects. I took a 2 week break from it, and when I first restarted I had some pretty intense effects on top of the medicinal effects, but after 2 or 3 days of use I returned to feeling 'normal' but with the continued therapeutic effects. To be honest I enjoyed the intensity, but in a therapeutic environment those would be considered unwanted side effects that can be avoided with titrated dosing.
 
vortech said:
I took a 2 week break from it, and when I first restarted I had some pretty intense effects
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due to your tolerance to the drug's effects becoming smaller. after taking a break from any drug you've taken often you should reduce your dose when you start again.
 
I stopped using the drug a month ago, but I still continue to miss him. It scares me.
It looks like I have a strong psychological addiction.
 
I think I've use mxe to much and have build up a tolerance..It just won't affect me anymore and it was a clean batch..
I've stopped using now..Wish I had some K...
 
I've noticed my high tolerance to MXE has rendered Ketamine to be practically pointless. And sometimes I'd much rather just do Ketamine cause MXE is sometimes too manic and stimulating for me.
 
"As it was mentioned earlier, we really need to institutionalize this stuff. Integrate it into society with technology that we are using and recognize its potentials as a broad tool with proper use. A new institution. It's kinda hard to explain, but this compound fosters a strong connection to deep roots that should be acknowledged and encouraged to flourish for the benefit of global society".



i seem to remember that leary and his educated friends were saying about the same thing when talking lsd ~35 years ago.
 
I seriously doubt changing from insufflation to sublingual administration has any effect whatsoever on acne. A previous mention doesn't mean anything. It's just one coincidence encouraging the observation of another, which happens a lot when the entire world can read about anecdotes here on Bluelight and make a post upon feeling the slightest frisson of recognition. I encourage you to use whatever ROA you want and feel totally liberated from cosmetic consequences (I recommend up the butt for practical reasons covered ad nauseum).

Delsyd, J.Wallace said his MXE tolerance is what made ketamine pointless, not that ketamine is pointless. It does seem that MXE causes less severe development in tolerance to itself than ketamine does to itself. So if one takes enough MXE to grow tolerant to it, perhaps it makes sense that any cross tolerance it has with ketamine would make MXE tolerance especially problematic for those seeking ketamine's full effects. I thought it was the degree of selectivity for a particular receptor that was thought to be directly related to tolerance effects associated with that receptor (but this is just an inclination of a remembrance, I have no formal training to support the contention). It seems likely that ketamine more selectively interacts with the NMDA receptor relative to other affinities/efficacies as compared with MXE, just going by subjective effects.
 
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Hey yooo.

I've been on mxe daily for about a year now. Doses ranging from 25mg to 500mg in one day. Highest single dose was 300mg, when i first started, to breakthrough, and do the damn thing.... aka .... falling into space realm and letting go of total reality. (check my darkside thread).
Lately, well over the last three months, the mxe has been getting into my head and making me a little of a psychopath. Psyche's put me on vyvanse 70mg and lamactil, supposed to be taking 100mg now .... but only taking 25mg, as 100mg has made me a total zombiefied.... also, it seems the more lamactil I take.... the less the mxe seems to work. LAMACTIL seems to actually block the mxe effects. Not sure of if this is actually the reason, or my tolerance is retarded.

DOES anyone know if lamactil could pharmacologically block mxe effects?

Lately, I have been cutting back big time on the MXE. Mostly because I could actually feel my head going numb in certain areas. Pretty scary. Also, near the base of my neck I could feel a weird gel like feeling and, after much research, I seem to have the feeling that my OVERUSE of mxe might actually be doing irreversible damage to my basal ganglia .....

Anyone have any info if ... ketamine or pcp overuse has been contributed to the erosion of brain matter in this area of the brain?

Or .... am I in a total state of paranoia?

And, running off that line of thinking... I seem to be extremely paranoid lately on the mxe. As soon as it wears off though the paranoia wears off as well.

I think the vyvanse really ramps up the mxe paranoia level. It makes me think that people are doing things for certain reasons that aren't true. When I come down off the mxe ... I seem to realize i was wrong on most levels, ALTHOUGH, a lot of the time the MXE instincts WERE actually correct..

it's kind of scary
 
^ What do you mean with numb? You mean really numb, like it's getting tingly and if you touch it you don't feel this part of the body, or...? Thanks! Sounds really scary. Ah, and what you mean by "gel-like-feeling"?
 
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