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The Big & Dandy Methoxetamine (MXE) Thread - Chapter 14

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So it seems to be a common theme among quite a few people to take way too much of this stuff their first time or without any tolerance. 50mg is a very high dose for many people and to take that much could mean feeling uncomfortable and pure dysphoria. I've heard fantastic things from a dose as low as 10mg, but we will see in a few minutes what's really going on with this substance.

Just took an allergy test dose of about 7mg or a small chunk of a 35mg tablet. Superior quality mxe from a supplier in China. Will post details of the experience. Going to redose in about 45 minutes depending on the activity.
 
I took three 5mg doses last night, spaced about 45 minutes apart. I actually had a great feeling, much better than taking 10mg doses in the same way. I dislike the dissociated feeling getting strong unless I'm laying in bed with my eyes closed. I like the hole dosages for that type of experience, and otherwise I like to very gradually work up with very, very small doses, it gives me a nice light stimulation combined with a smooth body feeling. I enjoyed it.
 
Early afternoon, the music of Balligomingo will set the mood for today's first mxe experiement, dosing and effects as follows:



12:00pm - roughly 7mg placed under tongue sublingual, tried to hold for 10 minutes but had to swallow after only a few minutes due to excessive saliva buildup.

12:30pm - Nothing but tingles yet, going to dose a very rough estimate of another 7mg. Do not eye out doses folks, I am estimating because it is a known 35mg tablet so the dose won't be off by that much.

12:33pm - Energy building, not going to redose on second thought, may have taken closer to 10-12mg, who knows. Starting to feel just dandy though...
 
Asante said:
5mg doses? 7mg doses? This is the MXE thread right?
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Yes, those are very low doses. Honestly I did so little because I was somewhat concerned about a possible maoi interaction with several herbs I take daily. Also, I am not a fan of dissociatives. Ketamine and dxm are the only dissociatives I have extensive experience with and I was hoping maybe mxe would offer a new twist on the experience so to speak.

Was curious to see what it felt like compared to those two substances, but for me it is all too similar.

I can say it's a much more pleasant experience than dxm, never enjoyed that one bit but curiosity kept me coming back.

I will say it's a nice alternative to ketamine, however at this point in my life I'm not even sure why I returned to using drugs.

Buddhism and meditation are the path that has been shown is right for me, and each time I return to entheogenics, they always point me back to this path.

May you all be well. ;)
 
I want some MXE, it was so easy and casual drug to dose at night when I was bored lol.
 
Yeah 5mg affects me for sure, not strongly but enough to like it. 15mg is strong for me, it doesn't make me have a psychedelic experience like hole-range doses do but it makes me feel very off balance and have frame-stacking vision and everything. I actually don't really like 15-20mg doses very much, it's not psychedelic enough to get those effects but it intoxicates me more than I like.
 
Don't think this has been mentioned anywhere yet. There is a psychedelics conference called Psymposium 2014 happening next month featuring lots of big heads like Dennis Mckenna.
Watch the trailer and get info at www.psymposia.com.

Hamilton Morris (you may know him from Vice magazine) is doing a presentation entitled "MXE to PCP: A History of Arylcyclohexylamines". Should be good.

People can watch the conference online for just a $10 ticket.
 
Asante said:
5mg doses? 7mg doses? This is the MXE thread right?
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I did some dose-response tests and I started with 5mg and I was also surprised, but 5mg is DEFINITELY above threshold, in addition to the stimulation there was even some slight dissociation going on.
 
Oh hell yeah, for me without tolerance 10mg has the psychoactivity of several glasses of alcohol so 5mg no doubt would be clearly noticable. Its just that I'm sold on the miraculous & mystical experiences and they happen for me in the 20-40mg range with 30mg being the sweet spot.

I'm into MXE for the Teachings, not the intoxication.
 
Asante said:
Oh hell yeah, for me without tolerance 10mg has the psychoactivity of several glasses of alcohol so 5mg no doubt would be clearly noticable. Its just that I'm sold on the miraculous & mystical experiences and they happen for me in the 20-40mg range with 30mg being the sweet spot.

I'm into MXE for the Teachings, not the intoxication.
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May you find what you seek my fellow traveller. Fare thee well bluelight, much love and I hope you're doing good Xorkoth! <3<3
 
WSH said:
What's your opinion on higher doses (e.g. 80-100mg)?
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I first used sublingually, then I saw the fallacy of that and switched to oral use which is about as effective. I used to be of the belief that its best to take 20-40mg doses orally every 1-2 hours, causing a cumulation of effect, generally resulting in you holing when the total dose got in the 60-120mg ballpark.

Highest dose I used with little tolerance was 50mg and that could be extremely upsetting by its intensity sometimes. 30mg has always been my general purpose dosage and I think 4/5 doses I took were 30mg. For me, lying down or sitting comfortably in a dark silent room with eyes closed, perhaps candles lit, 30mg was good for a miracle almost every time, whereas 20mg was usually a strong intoxication but not a liftoff onto the realm of dreams. I never took high doses, to me they were strongly dysphoric.

Now my usage changed though, I have just about abandoned oral cumulative use in favor of a single rectal dose (rectal is close to the potency and nature of effects of IM but without a needle) of what I expect will be 20-40mg when tolerance has faded.

Rectally, which is much less manic and anxious, I intend to go for a "Hole In One", or a single dose which blasts you off into the Hole and back. With tolerance reverted I expect the 20-40mg range to do that trick for me, perhaps 50mg at most.
 
Chris Timothy said:
..but the intoXication IS the Teaching! =D
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I'd have to disagree, the intoxication is secondary it's just the vehicle that takes you to a place of learning. The same places can be reached without drugs entirely ( sensory deprivation, meditation, etc). I've never ever had a purely recreational psychedelic experience even when that's all I wanted. There is always something to take and learn from every single experience no matter what the vehicle ( chemical) happens to be.
The intoxication is the fun part, the insight is the serious part.
 
Has anyone used mxe while going through benzo withdrawals? I'm talking about small doses of course(5-10mgs). I've been struggling with an etizolam dependency for about a year now. I know daily dosing of this chem is not ideal but on the days I dose I have no problem keeping my etiz intake under 7mgs compared to the days I don't where I usually take ~10mgs. I remember using ketamine during some mild xanax withdrawal without any problems but as we all know mxe is a bit more stimulating.
 
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Hi Roxianne!

I used MXE in low doses during benzo WDs and found it extremely helpful. HOWEVER, if I took too much it made me very anxious, so it's a fine line and just speaking from my own subjective experience I think that it's best only to try this if your WDs aren't too severe.

If you are stable (mentally) but just feeling uncomfortable in your body and mentally flat, small doses of MXE can be fantastic relief. I won't suggest any doses because "small" is relative to your tolerance and to the potency of your material.
 
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