The Big & Dandy Methoxetamine(2-(3-methoxyphenyl)-2-(ethylamino)cyclohexanone) Thread

[knock]

I knew the effects of ketamine that why i took so much but it was something completely different.

Several of us here have been saying repeatedly:

this is not ketamine

start low even if you think you are hard

It would be pleasant if people could be arsed to read what we have been saying before consuming ridiculous amounts.

We don't make recommendations for the good of our health, we do it for yours!

On the other hand, it's useful that you brought your information here as it reinforces the point.

Thank you for that!

 

[villian]

good job knockando, first time I've seen hearts with an angry face between them

 

[Mercc96]

and to the people who think i am lieing i did the post because i read alot of reviews on drugs before i buy them from this site but i wanted to warn people not to fall into the trap of overdosing

sorry for leaping straight away, but you can understand where im coming from

Moved up to 30Mg in one line now, Tea seems to have an undescribable synergie with mxe its just so amazing lmao. Best PG tips ever!

 

[growit&smokeit]

Man I hope you and friend are ok, but ffs seriously, 400mg in five minutes...

 

[villian]

I asked the exact same question a couple pages back. I dabbed the powder on my finger and rubbed it under my tongue. Held it for about 8 minutes, ran to the kitchen and washed it all down with water. It's bitter....but I'm sure there are much worse tastes out there (aMT I'm looking at you).

PROTIP: If you dose sublingually properly there is no taste

 

[abore]

PROTIP: If you dose sublingually properly there is no taste

Please tell more. I almost always taste chemicals when dosing sublingually, either when my mouth fills with chemical spit or when I finally swallow.

 

[Mercc96]

bit late to ask but benzocaine lozengers are okay to use alongside this right?

 

[ConnectFor]

duh

i wanted to warn people not to fall into the trap of overdosing because this isn't something you want to overdose with

Overdosing is not a trap, its a consequence of not being careful with RCs.

It shouldn't surprise me that people are idiots, I've been one myself a number of times

I repeat: 6 ft tall, 17st, 25mg (MILLIGRAMS, TINY LITTLE GRAMS), more than enough to get acquainted with what this chem can do.

 

[knock]

I've PMed the mods to ask if there's any way we can have some basic safety/dosage information on each page. I'm not hopeful as I don't think the site supports sticky posts. I'd put it in my sig but I don't fucking have one....

In the meantime:

METHOXETAMINE DOSAGE AND SAFETY INFORMATION

This drug is not ketamine, it has a different dose range and effects profile.

Dosed sensibly this drug can be very interesting and enjoyable. Dosed stupidly it can be unpleasant and possibly dangerous.

Several people have had very negative reactions.

If you don't have scales get them as you cannot reliably eyeball at this level.

Allergy test: 5mg - a tiny amount.
First dose: 10-20mg - enough for most to feel the less extreme effects - LESS than ketamine
Come-up: 30 to 90 minutes, LONGER than ketamine
Duration: 5-7 hours, LONGER than ketamine

Increase your doses gradually. The effects quickly become different and less manageable.

If you choose to ignore this advice at least DO NOT EXCEED 50mg for your first dose.

Because the specific effects are unpredictable, it makes sense to be somewhere safe and familiar. Become familiar with the effects before you consider combining with other drugs, including alcohol.

If you decide to IV you are probably making a very big mistake.

 

[Yatzi]

tbh i think i read like 10 pages before i got bored because alot of the first reviews were before it came out for purchase on offical sites and people were just taking fake samples and posting what they had here and alot were this stuff is weak as a shit etc , kinda made me think the drug was something to compare to drone or less.

 

[knock]

tbh i think i read like 10 pages before i got bored because alot of the first reviews were before it came out for purchase on offical sites and people were just taking fake samples and posting what they had here and alot were this stuff is weak as a shit etc , kinda made me think the drug was something to compare to drone or less.

I think you're making up the stuff about fake samples.

I understand not reading the entire thread though as it's long. So fair enough. But you could at least have read MY POSTS as I wrote them for YOU!

 

[Yatzi]

I think you're making up the stuff about fake samples.

I understand not reading the entire thread though as it's long. So fair enough. But you could at least have read MY POSTS as I wrote them for YOU!

Maybe the fake samples was the benzo fury thread ... but there was a reason i got bored reading alot of the posts on this thread maybe cos alot of it was before the drug has come for purchasing so alot was just people talking about it rather than report on the effects after they had taken it

 

[Methox23]

Right i would stay away from this or at least from high doses my experience was beyond pleasant ...

i order 3 grams and i think me and 2 friends did like 400mg each!!!!!!! [QUOTE=Yatzi;9109875

I Have one thing to say


Never underestimate the predictability of stupidity .....Anyone agree?

Quit ruining it for the rest of us....

 

[Entheogenic]

i think me and 2 friends did like 400mg each in the space of 5 minutes

It is incredibly irresponsible to do something like this. People need to do their research and know what they're getting into and even then they need to proceed very cautiously with such a new and untested substance.

You are a guinea pig testing a potent new chemical. If you were in an experimental drug trial for a pharmaceutical company and were told to take only 1 pill would it be smart to take more than 10 pills at once? Its asking for trouble. I hope there aren't many more incidents like this or I worry that it'll get unwanted negative attention.

 

[mistereman]

I think you're making up the stuff about fake samples.

I understand not reading the entire thread though as it's long. So fair enough. But you could at least have read MY POSTS as I wrote them for YOU!

Timely intervention... As a newbie to this particular drug I would like to say the information contained within these 35 pages are so so useful

Well worth reading. Thanks to so many contributors I learnt a sensible start dose/roa/likely effects which is exactly what this site serves a purpose.

If the above few posts tell us anything it is to do your homework before embarking upon a new experience

 

[whoaremeyo]

I've PMed the mods to ask if there's any way we can have some basic safety/dosage information on each page. I'm not hopeful as I don't think the site supports sticky posts. I'd put it in my sig but I don't fucking have one....

In the meantime:

METHOXETAMINE DOSAGE AND SAFETY INFORMATION

This drug is not ketamine, it has a different dose range and effects profile.

Dosed sensibly this drug can be very interesting and enjoyable. Dosed stupidly it can be unpleasant and possibly dangerous.

Several people have had very negative reactions.

Start with an allergy test of about 5mg. This is a tiny amount.

Then proceed cautiously to 10mg and work your way up. This is still a tiny amount. This applies to any dosing method (sniffed/sublingual/plugged)

If you choose to ignore this advice at the very least DO NOT EXCEED 50mg for your first dose.

If you don't have scales get them as you cannot reliably eyeball at this level.

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If you decide to IV you are probably making a very big mistake.
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Someone has also died from IV'ing this (mixed with MDAI)

 

[killermunchies]

Timely intervention... As a newbie to this particular drug I would like to say the information contained within these 35 pages are so so useful

Well worth reading. Thanks to so many contributors I learnt a sensible start dose/roa/likely effects which is exactly what this site serves a purpose.

If the above few posts tell us anything it is to do your homework before embarking upon a new experience

Exactly. The world of RC's can be dangerous as we are all guinea pigs. Just randomly guessing dosages is not only incredibly stupid but also detrimental to all of us, on the chance someone ends up in the hospital or dead. Say you were designing a new kind of parachute for skydiving. Would you jump out of a plane with it without testing it first? Of course not. RC's should be treated in the same way. Doses of different drugs range from micrograms to grams. This means the dosage for some drugs are 100,000 - 1,000,000 times less than the dosage for other drugs. The odds of a random guess being right are almost zero. Read before you ingest people!

 

[Delsyd]

I've PMed the mods to ask if there's any way we can have some basic safety/dosage information on each page. I'm not hopeful as I don't think the site supports sticky posts. I'd put it in my sig but I don't fucking have one....

In the meantime:

METHOXETAMINE DOSAGE AND SAFETY INFORMATION

This drug is not ketamine, it has a different dose range and effects profile.

Dosed sensibly this drug can be very interesting and enjoyable. Dosed stupidly it can be unpleasant and possibly dangerous.

Several people have had very negative reactions.

Start with an allergy test of about 5mg. This is a tiny amount.

Then proceed cautiously to 10mg and work your way up. This is still a tiny amount. This applies to any dosing method (sniffed/sublingual/plugged)

If you choose to ignore this advice at the very least DO NOT EXCEED 50mg for your first dose.

If you don't have scales get them as you cannot reliably eyeball at this level.

If you decide to IV you are probably making a very big mistake.

good post mate.
I like your emphasis on harm reduction.

This type of caution should be taken with all drugs.
Especially the point about scales and taking a low Dose and working your way up.

I think this can be IV'd safely, from what i read here, the guy that died IV'd 100mg (a huge dose by other ROA's). And he also mixed it with 400mg of MDAI (also a big dose). Seems very reckless.

From what ive gathered following this thread 25mg seems to be a good dose to start with to get an idea of effects and 50mg will probably produce full immersion in most, YMMV.

 

[lbeing789]

Maybe the fake samples was the benzo fury thread ... but there was a reason i got bored reading alot of the posts on this thread maybe cos alot of it was before the drug has come for purchasing so alot was just people talking about it rather than report on the effects after they had taken it

Yatzi, I don't want to judge or point fingers... but taking 400mg and giving it your mates in the first go just seems next level stupid to me, shocking even, especially since you're actually reading this thread.... I'm reading all your explanations and they just don't cut it...you got bored?? you're criminally irresponsible buddy, if you'd have killed one of your friends you would've got the msg... it's a very basic rule that you need to follow in the future.... if you don't know what the dosage is, don't take it.... it could've been anything, who knows?? what made you pick 400 of all numbers?? I'm gonna reiterate what others have said, this is the reason why drugs are illegal, because people are just too ignorant, think they're invincible, they really ruin it for the rest of us. Please be safe, I'm sorry for ragging on you, but fuck, you are soooo fucking lucky mate.

 

[knock]

good post mate.

Thanks, I think it's needed as the information goes past so quickly in these threads. People jump to the last page and all the accumulated knowledge passes them by.

I think this can be IV'd safely, from what i read here, the guy that died IV'd 100mg (a huge dose by other ROA's). And he also mixed it with 400mg of MDAI (also a big dose). Seems very reckless.

I'm sure it can be IV'd safely and the Swedish guy was indeed reckless in the extreme but I don't want to summarise it as safe. If someone is going to IV they should do serious research and if I summarise it as safe then they might not do the research. Hoping they even read the post!

From what ive gathered following this thread 25mg seems to be a good dose to start with to get an idea of effects and 50mg will probably produce full immersion in most, YMMV.

This depends what you mean by fully immersive, I've taken 70mg and it hasn't been fully immersive but 50mg swept me off my feet and 70mg swept harder. 50mg is definitely a marker below which things are likely to be manageable to an extent (although you can certainly "lose your mind"), and above which they become progressively less manageable and that's why I stated it as a maximum for a first dose for reckless people who refuse to graduate upwards from ~10mg.

But yes 25mg is the dose that first gave me an idea of the full potential of this chemical. 10-20mg for me is threshold but definitely noticeable and fun, not placebo but real effects and is a dose I would certainly consider for a fun night, not a waste of the chemical at all. Part of the greatness of this stuff is you can dip in at low doses and have worthwhile effects without entering cloud cuckoo land and that's another good reason for starting low. Low doses are not losers' doses.