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I won't either...LSZ was perfectly pleasant for me and let's just say....i've been around the psychedelic block more than once or twice....
Lysergamides The Big & Dandy LSZ Thread
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Gratuitous Grace
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Yeah ... maybe you're the only person over the last couple hundred posts on LSZ who actually has it ... and the rest of us are all just making up stories. 'Cause that's such a fun way to spend time. Or maybe I have both LSZ *and* Kudzu *and* agreed to run your experiment like, what, a week or so ago? "Seems to be as hard as finding the Holy Grail" ... huh? Man, you're impatient. Why so uptight about this? Just as a practical matter, did you really want me to satisfy your request, come back with my results, and then tell you that the whole thing was probably inconclusive because of cross-tolerance issues? I said I needed some time. You came back and said I needed less time. I used to work for people like you.
I'm also a little suspicious (as I alluded to in an earlier post) of someone who is afraid to buy a perfectly legal and cheap herbal supplement through the mail. Actually, I'm getting more and more suspicious the more I think about it. People do that ALL THE TIME. I can't figure out what's going on here. Why so much urgency and pressure? I think I now agree with the advice you were given above. I'm willing to do this on my schedule -- even though I really dislike LSZ. That said, if you need this done NOW! then I think you'd be best off doing it yourself. I hope it works out for you...
Funkadelica
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Planning on finally trying LSZ for the first time this weekend. Think I'll just hop in with 1 tab though, as 1 tab of AL-LAD hit the spot nicely for me. Very interested to see how it differs from AL and particularly LSD. How do you generally feel the next day? An afterglow effect or feeling tired and drained?
The Shadow Self
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Jason I have to admit; it sounds really ridiculous that you'd be even dealing with psychedelics at this point. I mean, I don't mean to be a dick, but I have to say that you sound like a glutton for punishment at this point. Have you ever just though that perhaps they aren't for you? I mean, it seems as though an awful lot of effort is being put into one failure after another, then kind of poisoning the well by making negative comments about AL and LSZ. Again, I've been reading all of these for months, and it's gone from the sublime to the ridiculous, but that's just me. I'd run, not walk, away from ANY psychedelic at this point. Hopefully, with all your negative reactions to them, you don't wind up in an emergency room somewhere. I hope not. Have you ever considered that playing russian roulette with these chemicals, KNOWING that you are a poor responder, is a wise thing to do? It's your body, so you can obviously do what you want, but it does seem a bit foolish an endeavor for you, personally.
jason7
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Yes, I live in the Fascist country known as "Canada". I don't feel like ordering pills over the internet and there are no internet sources for it in Canada, smartass. You can't order stuff from the US without a lot of hassle with Customs so I won't even bother. Now either take the Kudzu challenge or zip it.
jason7
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So why didn't you do the experiment yet then, Mr. I have LSZ and Kudzu? Just forget it. I don't want any experiment results from you. You said you would do it then a bunch of time passed with no update so I figured just another wanker. That's STILL what I figure. I shouldn't even have mentioned Kudzu because you deserve full bodyload. What a waste of time this forum is. I'm not even going to post here anymore. It's just a bunch of rude people here who won't do one lousy little Kudzu experiment in a timely manner. And as for your suspicions, yeah, I'm a cop and I want to trick you into taking the deadly combination of Kudzu and LSZ just for kicks. I gotta go eat some donuts now. So long, useless rude BL forum people. And don't even bother replying cuz I won't even be reading this forum anymore. I'm removing it from my bookmarks list and I sure won't bother typing the URL in.
zombywoof
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some people have no patience at all trying to rush folks here for his own agenda though it may be a good idea . I for one wouldnt take either al-lad or lsz or even lsd more than once a month or eventually it will lose some of its magic and only my feelings but it takes me at least a month to get the receptors back to normal.If you find this forum a waste of time thats your call but i am sure a lot of people do get a lot of good information here as i have yes there will be rude people who hide behind their computers to slag people off kind of like you have just done.I am actually disappointed in your last post as you may have even brought some good information to this forum but your choice and maybe even your loss. Take care in your future experiments but as someone once said if you cant take care dont take anything
... honestly, it's got to be a joke Zomby, it's far too hilarious to be serious!
... that is a piece of my divine philosophy, that is... I am St Ingwe, after all Lol
... that is a piece of my divine philosophy, that is... I am St Ingwe, after all Lol
zombywoof
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a good statement though and very good advice in my book
P Schwangles
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Crazy! I think LSD produces the greatest tolerance of anything I've ever done! If I start off with just 100 mics, I can continue to eat 1000 mics, spread out over a 30 hour period, and not get nearly as high as I would if I ate 300 mics to start off. This is obviously due to rapid, extreme tolerance.
My one experience with AL-LAD seemed very different. I ate 150 mics of AL-LAD one night, and then ate 200-300 mics of LSD the following night, expecting cross-tolerance, and experienced none! That second night I tripped like I had no tolerance at all, which came as a huge surprise!
To those of you complaining about the jittery side effects of some of these compounds: You are aware that taking something like 5-10mg diazepam during a trip makes a world of difference, right? Most people just take benzos to fall asleep, but I think they go great during the trip itself! They just seem to go right to the root of those jittery, anxious side effects, making it so you can take a deep breath and relax.
Gratuitous Grace
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That's interesting. If I take something like 0.5 mg of Klonopin -- so roughly equivalent to your 10 mg of Valium -- I find that it seriously ratchets down the intensity of the entire experience ... both physically and mentally.
I find low dose (how much is that depends on your tolerance) etizolam great for this purpose, doesn't really affect the trip much, but gets rid of any uncomfortable stimulation (not that I need it with lsd and it's cousins, but for 2c-x it's quite useful since I hate the stimulation).
Anyway, I have a question about LSZ and visuals - do they get better at higher doses? I only tried 150ug and they were quite underwhelming compared to 150ug al-lad, everything else was fine (bodyload, headspace, ...). Would they get better with 225ug or 300ug (that's the most I can take, only have to blotters left)?
Anyway, I have a question about LSZ and visuals - do they get better at higher doses? I only tried 150ug and they were quite underwhelming compared to 150ug al-lad, everything else was fine (bodyload, headspace, ...). Would they get better with 225ug or 300ug (that's the most I can take, only have to blotters left)?
Funkadelica
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^ Yeah I agree, I've found 150ug to be pretty underwhelming. Having a great time and all but was definitely looking for more. I do like how it appears to be much more chilled out than AL-LAD. Compared to my first time on Alladin this does pale in comparison though. Will definitely go for a higher dose next time.
How would a little bit of MDMA go down with this?
How would a little bit of MDMA go down with this?
al-lad is pretty chilled for me... or to be more precise it is if i want it to be... i can just relax, watch a movie and enjoy the psychedelic effect if i want to or i can go out exploring, it doesn't force me to do anything (for example with 2c-e i have to go out and walk because it's way to stimulating to relax at home)... and the visuals are one of the prettiest (like everything looking like it has photoshops line finding filter applied, or like looking through a kaleidoscope) of all psys i've tried even at 150ug but at the same time aren't overwhelming (meaning if you concentrate hard, you can get rid of them for a while, 2c-e visuals are also strong, but much less controllable, but it does have better synaesthesisa). This is comparing 150ug al-lad with 16mg 2c-e, higher doses are of course less controlable...
Still for those who have tried lsz at 225 or 300ug... do the visuals get better? Because, again, that's the only thing that I find missing from it. Or should I maybe combine it with some more visual psy (500ug of 2c-nboh/some 4-ho-met or something else with little mind fuck but lots of visuals)?
> How would a little bit of MDMA go down with this?
Probably great if you like mdma + lsd.
I want to try an al-lad + 5-apb/6-apb combo (mdma is a bit to stimulating for me) one day, but since the UK ban the apbs are hard to find and al-lad is running scarce as well (hope they make more, and not just al-lad but all the still legal lysergamides).
Still for those who have tried lsz at 225 or 300ug... do the visuals get better? Because, again, that's the only thing that I find missing from it. Or should I maybe combine it with some more visual psy (500ug of 2c-nboh/some 4-ho-met or something else with little mind fuck but lots of visuals)?
> How would a little bit of MDMA go down with this?
Probably great if you like mdma + lsd.
I want to try an al-lad + 5-apb/6-apb combo (mdma is a bit to stimulating for me) one day, but since the UK ban the apbs are hard to find and al-lad is running scarce as well (hope they make more, and not just al-lad but all the still legal lysergamides).
zombywoof
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I had another go at 150ug of lsz on friday night and must admit i got hit a lot harder than the last time i tried it. it must have been very little on that blotter the first time as i really enjoyed it on friday. I swallowed tab at 7 pm while relaxing in the bath and started to feel effects about an hour later. The wifes friend then came over so i hid in kitchen playing music on computer till she left just before 10 pm. The music really sounded fantastic possibly even more so than on al-lad. there was very little body load though i was a bit unsteady when i had to go to the toilet. Also nice and euphoric as a beatific grin kept appearing on my face for no reason at all. Very mild oevs but the cevs were quite strong but not like al-lad. i also got very hungry after a few hours and was eating quite a lot all through the trip.I also smoked quite a lot of polm after the first couple of hours as it did make me want to smoke. probably a waste then as the lsz did over power it for most of the trip.I dont like to smoke noids when on other chemicals as it just doesn't feel right so i just stuck to the hash.I ended up watching a film 633 squadron on the telly but this does make you emotional as i was nearly in tears at the end of it. I was still awake at 6.45 am so i took 2mg of etiz went to bed and slept right through to 4.45 pm on saturday and had to get up as the wife was cracking up. I was in a fog for an hour or so but also had the afterglow i actually ended up assembling some bathroom furniture up till around 11pm last night.When i had my first spliff last night it was like being back in amsterdam as it almost gave me a whitey. I love the way this happens the day after i trip. yes i like this chemical very much but dont think it is as strong as al-lad and as i have only one lsz tab left and also have an odd half a tab of al-lad i think i will try that out next time sometime before christmas. so next time out 150ug of lsz and 75ug of al-lad should be very good in my opinion.
lovepsychadelics
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I don't find it (doing a small amount of benzo) does fuck all to intensity, however I only use 2.5 mg or so of diazepam (Valium). I also use meth while on psychedelics which I find does change the subjective experience more clear thought process with slightly reduced visuals but massive stimulation. 40 mg of very pure 2ce needed 2-3 mg of xanax just to be managed and it was only fucking just under control.
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.......Or EL-ES-ZED
I somehow have a feeling that LSD will never be beat in the combination of potency, lack of side effects/bodyload, liniency in dose/response, spiritual power etc.
There's something totally magical about how it came into existence, it really is the first ever synthetic psychedelic (research) chemical, and it still is number one imo.
I have exactly the same intuitive feeling. I cannot imagine how could any substance be an improvement over LSD
The other substance may have subjective advantages like shorter or longer duration, higher or lower intensity and maybe most of all - lower tolerance - the only and biggest problem with LSD in my opinion.Can anybody please tell how are the biggest differences between LSD and LSZ especially in regards to cognition enhancement?
Anybody tried LSZ micro-dosing?
Most all of what's the tolerance of LSZ?
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