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The Big & Dandy HPPD Thread

karruters said:
you need to see them? you think they're full of lies? are they full of deceit? this is a conspiracy to spread false rumors of the benefits of meditation?

what.

i hate this.

you're in you're own little world. i gave you an article that says there are brain scans. and if you can't take the article seriously it means you think msnbc is full of lies. (which they would be, of course, but i see no benefit in them creating false rumors about the benefits of meditation) it says it right there in the article:



you don't compute anything that makes you wrong. you turned it into me rambling. you need to keep an eye on this man, you've been making an idiot out of yourself with this mindset.
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wheres all the hostility coming from? all i said was there are no physical images of brain scans of someone before meditation, and then after shown in the article. you should go to anger management. You could hurt someone one day from all of your outbursts. You're like that tourettes guy on youtube.
 
^Your one to talk, you were just hostile above for no reason, because somebody had a misunderstanding. Whats with everybody being so rude??

Anyways, I've finally analyzed what my hppd is. It's like theres an aura around everything I see and when I stare for a few seconds and look away theres an afterimage almost as if its burnt into my eye of the aura around stuff. Also I get tracers and some visual static, I can't say it bothers me whatsoever, also when I smoke weed it apmlifies and I also get lots of visuals, or maybe just other hppd symptoms revealed. So is it really hppd if I'm not actually suffering? HAlucination persisting perception dissorder, thats what its called right? Who says having a halucinogenic persisting perception is a bad thing anyways?....
 
The Winner!! said:
^Your one to talk, you were just hostile above for no reason, because somebody had a misunderstanding. Whats with everybody being so rude??

Anyways, I've finally analyzed what my hppd is. It's like theres an aura around everything I see and when I stare for a few seconds and look away theres an afterimage almost as if its burnt into my eye of the aura around stuff. Also I get tracers and some visual static, I can't say it bothers me whatsoever, also when I smoke weed it apmlifies and I also get lots of visuals, or maybe just other hppd symptoms revealed. So is it really hppd if I'm not actually suffering? HAlucination persisting perception dissorder, thats what its called right? Who says having a halucinogenic persisting perception is a bad thing anyways?....
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regardless whether or not it bothers you, its still classified under the DSMIV as HPPD. There have been alterations to your brain that are more than likely permanent unless they find a med that can reverse whatever is causing the problem. Continue to use drugs and it will turn into something more than halos and some mild afterimages/static. you'll start to have micro/macroscapia 24/7, the glare from the sun will be to the point where you will barely be able to see without sunglasses, car headlights will trail for alot longer, etc. My advice to you would be to stop all drug use immediately, including weed.
 
I think i may have had a experience with this recently. I first droped acid about 1 and a half years ago and since then have only used acid and DMT. I woke felt really weird all day and that night go nailed with really trippy shit. I like relived my most memorial acid trips not visually but felt every emotion I remember. It was crazy a trip about tripping? possible but damn, I never understood what flashbacks were about but it was pretty crazy to get nailed by that kind of thing out of no where.

Does anyone else who gets this feel subtly weird for a day or so before it hits them?
 
pr0d1gy said:
I think i may have had a experience with this recently. I first droped acid about 1 and a half years ago and since then have only used acid and DMT. I woke felt really weird all day and that night go nailed with really trippy shit. I like relived my most memorial acid trips not visually but felt every emotion I remember. It was crazy a trip about tripping? possible but damn, I never understood what flashbacks were about but it was pretty crazy to get nailed by that kind of thing out of no where.

Does anyone else who gets this feel subtly weird for a day or so before it hits them?
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again....not hppd. get out!
 
who's having a misunderstanding? i see that he's not going to trust the article until he sees the brain scans. i'm just calling him absurd for the above mentioned.

you fucker. i wanna manage my anger on yo face.
 
So is it not considered a flashback unless you feel physical sensations also?

I definitely have the after effects of drugs in my vision... but uh, I do a lot of them, and don't consider them in anyway annoying. Except for when I smoke pot, and I suddenly feel like I'm tripping for a few minutes... which can be slightly uncomfortable. I don't think I'd say I have HPPD, I personally feel as if my mind is just a bit rewired-if I stare at anything for more than a few seconds, my vision snaps into geometric patterns, and has pretty much done so ever since I dropped acid.

EDIT: An oh, according to the erowid link at the beginning of this thread...

"What differentiates the medical condition of HPPD from normal visual 'noise' is the severity of these effects. HPPD subjects have these effects with sufficient frequency and severity that it interferes with their ability to function in their daily lives."

I figure visual "noise" can be caused by drug use, and is probably common among psychedelic users. HPPD sounds a bit different...
 
I've had the walls bend and patters nonstop 24/7 on the walls and street go on for 6 months+ after my strongest mushroom trip. It really doesn't bother me to have visual disturbances for a long period of time. It adds a bit of flair to my daily life haha.
 
karruters said:
who's having a misunderstanding? i see that he's not going to trust the article until he sees the brain scans. i'm just calling him absurd for the above mentioned.

you fucker. i wanna manage my anger on yo face.
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stfu kid you wouldn;t do shit. I would make you my bitch.
 
pr0zaccc said:
I've had the walls bend and patters nonstop 24/7 on the walls and street go on for 6 months+ after my strongest mushroom trip. It really doesn't bother me to have visual disturbances for a long period of time. It adds a bit of flair to my daily life haha.
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long period of time? Try life long bro. Do you want to be seeing patterns and walls bending when you're 60 years old? didn't think so.
 
I see what your saying man. It always decreased with time for me, but if it kept going on I'd probably flip my shit.
 
ShaolinBomber said:
regardless whether or not it bothers you, its still classified under the DSMIV as HPPD. There have been alterations to your brain that are more than likely permanent unless they find a med that can reverse whatever is causing the problem. Continue to use drugs and it will turn into something more than halos and some mild afterimages/static. you'll start to have micro/macroscapia 24/7, the glare from the sun will be to the point where you will barely be able to see without sunglasses, car headlights will trail for alot longer, etc. My advice to you would be to stop all drug use immediately, including weed.
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Hmm, not good. There has been times where I've been walking in the sun and the glare WAS so bad that I could barely see and my eyes were watering and shit.. Is quitting all drugs, including weed really the only way that it won't get worse? Because I really do plan on exploring psychedelics further. Other than all my other symptoms. I think I have derealization aswell, not sure if it has to do with HPPD though.

thanks for all your help, man
 
^ Well, you should definitely take a break from them. If the symptoms don't go away in a few months, then you're out of luck.
 
I've got horrible HPPD. I "tripped" on benadryl COUNTLESS times when I was younger, I also used DXM on a regular basis, 200$ shoplifting bill and I was considered "trespassing" if went on any Walmart property for a year(Many years ago). I've taken acid 3 times now and I've rolled 4 times, I also used to smoke a ton of weed.

At the moment I am completely sober and have not consumed any drugs today, I am well rested aswell. and I see people in my peripheral vision, I see bugs flying around, shit starts waving, I see blues and whites with open and closed eyes, afterimages, I also will randomly hear my name called over and over agian by voices of friends that I've recently been around, sometimes full sentences.

But despite all of that I somewhat enjoy it.
 
The Winner!! said:
Hmm, not good. There has been times where I've been walking in the sun and the glare WAS so bad that I could barely see and my eyes were watering and shit.. Is quitting all drugs, including weed really the only way that it won't get worse? Because I really do plan on exploring psychedelics further. Other than all my other symptoms. I think I have derealization aswell, not sure if it has to do with HPPD though.

thanks for all your help, man
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Theres no promise that HPPD wont get worse. But bet on the fact that if you continue to use drugs you will exponentially increase the likelihood of it becoming MUCH worse. When i say drugs, I MEAN EVERYTHING, including caffiene.

Derealization and depersonalization are common with HPPD. Most people i've talked to who have the legitamate disorder have dp/dr.

The only way i know to alleviate symptoms is with benzos or certain antiepileptic drugs like keppra. David kozin is starting up research on hppd now. I think hes gotten the green light to begin but im not 100% sure. Hes the guy who founded hppdonline.com.

And to answer another question thats probably on your mind. Will HPPD go away on its own? Probably not. Theres alot of people who've had it for 10+ years and visuals have basically stayed the same or have gotten worse over the years.

I know what its like to have it, because i have it. It ruins your life, literally. It sucks the life force out of you. It takes away all ambition and motivation. Its hard/impossible to feel joy and happiness, and easy to feel anguish and despair. All i can say is try to hang in there.
 
UHHG hppd help

Everytime I think about what happened in January 2009, I can remember every single detail, word for word, and the whole trip felt so commfatble, like I was home, yet so horrified by the sight. The part that makes me so frusterated is that I never stop thinking about it. I’m not me anymore. Everything in life makes me remember of the bad trip, and even though I know its fake, it felt so real, like, everything was boxed off in this plastic covering. Everything had to do with this word that didn’t even make sense, and when I try to make sense of it, im driving myself insane. I feel like im going to have hppd for the rest of my life, and I cant’ take it so much of the time. I don’t even know what to do or who I can go to for help. My boyfriend is trying to be really supportive, but, I swear, its not working. Im on anti depressents, and sleeping pills, but sometimes, I want to pop a billion pills to hush the pain away. I feel like ill be in this endless bliss of spiraling hatred against myself and a fear of the people around me, and the worst part is I’ve become scared of my house, my own room, and I hate to sleep alone. It’s making me the person I despise the most . I kind of want to know what to do for it to go away. Im scared im going to push away the best person I care about by driving myself insane, and sometimes I consider killing myself.
I don’t know who I am anymore. I don’t know what to do. I need advice. Help !
 
More drugs to help you come to terms with it? Nah, but I think you need to come to terms with it some how obviously, have you even tried therapy? Don't go thinking killing yourself is the only answer. Maybe try thinking of it as your in a bad trip right now, and you need to try and influence this bad trip into a good trip, thouigh it won't be a bad trip anymore, it will still be a trip. A good trip none the less. I hope that helped
 
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