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The Big & Dandy HPPD Thread

Hey guys, after doing lots of lsd recently i developed the static. It hasnt changed for 4 months, ive done no psychedelics but i did still smoke. If its only my vision that im risking its not too much of a consequence. That being said if i trip again am i likely to develop dr/dp or anything other than visual problems ? Can anyone say anything on this subject ?
 
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I had nast dr dp after doing mdma and i believe its one of the most common side effects of hppd and it was horrible but with good diet exercise and abstinence from everything i soon got rid of it about 2 to 3 weeks id say but my main problem im left with is this static vision sometimes i see other things too i think they are tracers like little bubbles with a dot in the middle but i have always seen them just not as vividly as i do now it does seem to be improving ever so slightly though

god i hope it is anyway !!!

is the recovery from hppd a gradual one or would you say you just snap out of it

any help and answers are much appreciated guys thanks alot
 
bickoma said:
I would like to see how many people that use psychedelic drugs have HPPD, or Hallucinogen Persisting Perception Disorder. More information can be found here.

If you believe you do have HPPD, please answer:

1) How many times have you tripped?
2) Did you experience HPPD after a bad trip?
3) On which substances did HPPD become apparent?
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1. I have tripped 9 times.

2. I had a bad trip on mushrooms before this became most noticeable.

3. DXM, LSA, LSD, Psilocybin, Datura, Muscimol, and weed (smoked a lot of it, not very much "tripping" happened, but it felt very trip-like).

My HPPD consists of:

1. Moving peripheral vision: It sometimes appears as though things are moving slightly.

2. Worsened visual snow: My visual static has gotten more apparent.

3. Trails behind bright lights: If someone waves a bright light in for example, a figure eight, I will see a ghost trailing behind it sometimes close, sometimes far.

4. Occasional auditory hallucinations: In the dark, sometimes I hear footsteps that aren't there/aren't actually happening.

5. "Minds eye" visuals: I'll see a scenario happen in my head that I think about. Sometimes it is bad, sometimes it is good.

6. Closed eye visuals/Floaters: I'll close my eyes after looking at a bright light and it will morph colors and shapes. Upon opening my eyes, it will float in my vision for a good 5 minutes.

7. Open eye visuals/Melting: I'll look away after looking at a fan, or something with constant motion, and whatever I look at melts in the direction of what I was previously looking at for a few seconds.

8. Cartoon vision: Occasionally I'll turn my head towards a colorful thing like a tree with pink flowers next to a house, and it'll look extraordinarily colorful and vivid, and it will look much further away than it is.

Conclusion: I have been feeling this for about 2 weeks, and I hope it never goes away. I'm enjoying the hell out of this. =D

Cheers,
-Elektrik
 
ElektrikShuffler said:
1. I have tripped 9 times.

2. I had a bad trip on mushrooms before this became most noticeable.

3. DXM, LSA, LSD, Psilocybin, Datura, Muscimol, and weed (smoked a lot of it, not very much "tripping" happened, but it felt very trip-like).

My HPPD consists of:

1. Moving peripheral vision: It sometimes appears as though things are moving slightly.

2. Worsened visual snow: My visual static has gotten more apparent.

3. Trails behind bright lights: If someone waves a bright light in for example, a figure eight, I will see a ghost trailing behind it sometimes close, sometimes far.

4. Occasional auditory hallucinations: In the dark, sometimes I hear footsteps that aren't there/aren't actually happening.

5. "Minds eye" visuals: I'll see a scenario happen in my head that I think about. Sometimes it is bad, sometimes it is good.

6. Closed eye visuals/Floaters: I'll close my eyes after looking at a bright light and it will morph colors and shapes. Upon opening my eyes, it will float in my vision for a good 5 minutes.

7. Open eye visuals/Melting: I'll look away after looking at a fan, or something with constant motion, and whatever I look at melts in the direction of what I was previously looking at for a few seconds.

8. Cartoon vision: Occasionally I'll turn my head towards a colorful thing like a tree with pink flowers next to a house, and it'll look extraordinarily colorful and vivid, and it will look much further away than it is.

Conclusion: I have been feeling this for about 2 weeks, and I hope it never goes away. I'm enjoying the hell out of this. =D

Cheers,
-Elektrik
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I feel you there. After some 2C-I trips, I've gotten some similar effects for a week or two. While I wouldn't want it to last forever, it's cool when it pops up occasionally. Every now and then, I'll see something wiggle that isn't supposed to, and it usually just makes me smile and continue about my day.
 
If you believe you do have HPPD, please answer:

1) How many times have you tripped?
2) Did you experience HPPD after a bad trip?
3) On which substances did HPPD become apparent?
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1) I've tripped around 35 times in the past year (and none before that), ~20 on DMT, 2 on shrooms, 3 on 2C-C, 3 on ketamine, 2 on dpt, 2 on 4-aco-dmt, 2 on salvia, 1 on 4-ho-mpt, 1 on acid, 1 on 2c-i, 1 on DOC, 1 on 2C-T-2, 1 on 5-meo-mipt. I've been smoking weed once a week during the school year and everyother day in the summer for the past year. I've also done nitrous around 20 times during that period, about half of those were in combination with other substances.

2. I've had one bad trip on DMT which produced no more HPPD than anything else.

3. I noticed auras around lights at night after doing shrooms for the first time. I noticed moving surfaces when tired after doing 2C-I. I noticed tracers in dark rooms for the first time after doing DOC.
 
1) Tripped 13 times-ish...major ex-pothead.

2) No, I got HPPD 5 months after my last trip, in the interim time i didnt even touch booze or weed. I live in south florida, and apparently theres been a lot of bad weed going around my area, it's happened to 6 other people that i know but im the most affected, except one kid who went psychotic, but he had a family history of the disorder...i was sold weed laced with PCP, I tripped BALLS for a day and a half and when it was gone i didnt feel the same for about 6 months after haha, worst time of my life (I know it was laced because i got a piss test done and because i beat the crap out of the kid who sold it to me and he admitted that the guy who sold it to him said it was special and to keep away from it.)

3) Tripped on shrooms 10 times, usually 3-4 gram trips, all great...once on acid...once on salvia (fuck thattt shit, bugged me out more than the angel dust haha) once on DXM although i didnt take enough and only saw trails...and morning glory seeds, although they only made my legs stiff and everything glowy, i didnt really trip.

Yeah so one night i experienced my only panic attack ever, couldnt fall asleep for hours, woke up seeing static, trails, slight after images, halos around lights, streaks of light came about 3 months after once i started smoking again, then came ghosting, worsened after-images after that...

kept drinking hard and smoking regularly, eventually i developed depersonalization, around this time i tried to quit drugs but i felt so shitty sober that i got into benzos, eventually i became so uninhibited that i was on a beer/xany/oxy/broccoli soup diet for about 3 weeks haha, i ran out of money, and when the haze cleared i found that all my symptoms were 10 times worse, the depersonalization is hell, and i have slight chronic fatigue too, but the worst part for me are the cognitive issues...it's goin away, but it sucks...oh i also see waves on walls...i guess that points to shrooms as the culprit...

CEVs have left me though...it's wierd, my hppd visuals were never pleasant even when i tried to will them into being...always harsh demonic faces as CEVs and leaves look deadand plastic instead of that beautiful shroomy godlike look.

It is what it is :\
 
^ check out cordyceps sinensis mushrooms. Nothing in this world is better for chronic fatigue...not to mention the billion other benefits.
 
Hi I'm a little worried that I have a mild form of HPPD. I took a strong methylcybin trip some days ago and my vision is slighty flickery and i see extremely faint patterns on white surfaces or in dark rooms the flicker is a little coloured and have patterns. I also looks like i have extremely faint tracers when moving my hands.
My vision just seems slightly different, I cant see describe how but it is VERY VERY weak.

Is this a mild form of HPPD or is it just placebo or an maybe just a long afterglow?
 
^ In my experience almost all psychedelics *can* cause some of the visuals to last for a few weeks after your dose. HPPD is when it doesn't go away at all, if it's only been a few days I wouldn't worry yet. I get the same but it always fades after a couple of weeks max :D
 
I have HPPD and i'm positive it is judging by some people's description. It has been almost a year I would say having extensive 'afterburn' from anything for example i'm in a very well lit room at the moment looking at my laptop, I look to the side and can see every box > emoticon you name it as an afterburn but mainly on blank walls. They then morph around, swaying almost in to something fairly differently shaped. These burns being blue red pink yellow the whole god dam rainbow!
Tracers from movements of my hands sometimes or a person (almost handy for skateboarding!), lights in a dark area trace like star trek! Always stronger and longer the closer it is to my peripherals. Walls breathe a fair amount sometimes and I'm pretty sure my one trip on DPH has brought the occasional spider and 'washy' cobweb effect across the walls into the mix. My FAVE bit of it all though is how the dusky marks of thousands of people's foot prints on the street or the random cracks on a brick wall morph into characters beyond my ideas. Things I have never seen before. dolphins faces, faces, faces more faces gargoyles what have you! I binged on my PCP or whatever the hell it was quite hard for a week and that left me with slight perspective changes and feelings of wellbeing and euphoria about my life.

Here is my two pence though, < ohoohoho, I think Weed makes it worse in the long run. When I'm stoned the HPPD get's stronger and more vibrant. If i have been smoking piffalicious stuff for a while the next week or when i'm sober the HPPD does get a lot stronger.
I was at a rave in a chillout room chatting away to some dude and he turned and looked at me, we were talking about HPPD, looked at me and said 'Unless it's severe and I mean SEVERE where it almost blinds you. Why do you have to worry?' I realised that it's actually not a problem. I was scared because I thought I had damaged my self permanently. I have 'damaged' my self but in no way do I have to look at it in a bad way. This process of acceptance and realisation happened very quickly. I still had anxious thoughts and feelings about it but they subsided and now. I fucking love it.
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I hope you can all come to terms with it guys. It's either stop drugs (weed and alcohol included) or come to terms with it.
 
For me it didnt go away or even got weaker after 6 months of abstain from psychedelics but not weed. But honestly it never bothered me(maby just a tiny bit). But my case isnt severe like others. Its only some morphing/breathing and visual snow/floaters. Some ppl got it all theyre life. I think it became apparent after my 4-aco-dmt overdose (extreme intesity trip). More like iprovement than imparement for perception functions. Visual snow may be from dissociative usage and morphing from psychedelics. But thats only my bet.

I wish quick recovery or acceptance of this new state for people that find this unbearable.
^^
 
hey guys have had hppd for two years now! first year i abstained from all drugs, but i reallly struggled at first when i began having massive unexplained panic attacks the hppd followed soon after. I get afterimages, static and i used to get patterning and plenty of trippy shit well as a purple blobs as well.

These days i barely notice anything its probably still there but you learn to filter it out again and i rarely even think about it, started smoking weed again and enjoying it. Exercising everyday really helps anxiety issues and acceptance is a must.

I thought i was fucked for months, thought i had fried my brain permantly and i was a drug casualty. I could barely focus at work and home for months i dont know how i didnt lose my job, now ive been promoted and things are generally going good for me.


And yeah i still do plenty of drugs just have good breaks in between.
 
Also if i could give someone with new symptoms advice it would be to stay out of hppd forums because its mostly a bunch of nutjobs posting on these and it does nothing but hinder ones recovery.
 
i have a maybe really weird question, is it mroe likely to develop HPPD after more visual psychedelic use? or does it have nothign to do with the general character of the drugs abused before?

if i remember right, there was static and visual snow developed after 4mmc use a while back... so im guessing it might not have much to do with it. but thought id ask anyway.

sorry if this has been asked/answered in the previous 20 pages...
 
4mmc gave me seeing ppl sneeking up on me or calling my name fir about a month after use
 
when HPPD becomes a problem

Ok so i bet most of us get lasting visual disturbances after using psychedelics and sometimes for me they may be kind of fun and a reminder of the trip but when is the point where they become a problem? i have done some lsd last week, some 2c-e a month back, but lately dmt a few times last time being 2 days ago and it seems im still left with more "standing - out" visual disturbances like flashing tv snow like but its colors like purpee or colors off the wall if i stare at it.its just getting kinda annoying. i know abstinence would be best and i have been doing that the past few days but what else can i do to kinda get back to "normality". any nootropics? sleep? or just good ol time?
 
i don't know about "most of us" - i've never really encountered this, despite using psychedelics extensively for over ten years - but nonetheless i think sleep is your best friend here.
others might have advice about supplements and so fourth, but i have found in most matters of mental and physical health and regeneration that getting plenty of sleep and eating healthy food (fresh vegetables, non-processed whole foods) are the best things you can do.

there is probably no quick fix to these sorts of things, and i imagine it is something that will go away with time and rest.
 
Time and abstinence from all substances. Stimulants make the disturbances much worse.

I think by definition HPPD is a problem. I have lasting visual disturbances (some snow when looking at certain textures, things vibrating) but it isn't HPPD because it doesn't get in the way of my life.
 
Ive had pretty intense HPPD for awhile now. After awhile you get used to it tho. It seems to get worse when im tired or stressed, so maybe sleep or meditation might help. As others have said, taking some time off tripping will usually calm it down.

Sometimes antioxidants seem to reduce visual distrubances. Maybe its a problem with oxidative stress? Does anyone know anything about this?
 
I've never noticed this if this has indeed happened to me before... What you are describing, for me, happens sometimes when I don't sleep for 2/3 days (never really gone past that). That does sound annoying. Good luck with your condition and I hope it doesn't get worse. Stay safe.
 
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