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The Big & Dandy Highly Sensitive Psychedelics Users Thread

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I felt highly sensitive psychedelics users deserve their own B&D, to explore what works for them and see whether there are patterns and strategies to their high sensitivity.

This is not about HSP people per se, but about the guy who takes a gram of shrooms and acts like he's had an eighth.

For me personally, I'm highly sensitive to particularly psychedelics and stimulants.

Normal doses for me are, and note I weight 300lbs:

1/4-1/2 blotter LSD
1/4-3/4 gram Psilocybe cubensis mushrooms (1.5-5mg Psilocybin)
0.1-0.2gr Psilocybe cyanescens mushrooms
10mg 2C-B
3-5mg 2C-E

These doses have me tripping hard. If I double them I can get downright overwhelmed, lose the ability to understand language, get blood pressure instability and can get excruciating panic attacks.

With stimulants:

25-50mg caffeine (a cup of coffee is too much)
5-10mg Buphedrone
5mg Ethcathinone

BUT!!

I start out with 150mg MDMA and go through a gram in a sitting.
I dont drink but when I do I have drank heavy drinkers into a blackout while myself staying rational.
MXE, 30mg doses, I can easily take it up to 200-300mg total.

Whats up with that? =D
 
Wow those are some seriously low doses.
I need 20mg of 2ce to get really tripping.
My one friend is particularly sensitive to mushrooms, we had some incredibly shitty mushrooms, so we made tea.
I had to take 9 grams in tea to get semi tripping, whereas he took an eighth and was almost falling over he was so high
However he can do mdma and cocaine and keep up with everyone else.

I speculate it may have something to do with certain people having a larger amount of 5HT2 receptors, or perhaps more sensitive ones.
 
I am sooooooooo jealous of people like you that have such sensitivities. Makes for a cheap trip. I took 2mg 25i-NBOMe in the nose, and was just as functional as my girlfriend that only had 250mcg. Similar scenario with my 80mg 4-AcO-DMT
 
^With NBOMe compounds, isn't intranasal administration less effective than sublingual or buccal administration?

I wish I were highly sensitive to traditional psychedelics. Even when I'm not taking mirtazapine, I would need 2-6 times of the same dose of, say, LSD, to reach the same level as my fellow tripper. Same with mushrooms.

OTOH, I need less DXM than other people. I'm also fairly sensitive to stimulants (been drinking coffee for years and years, yet 2 1/2 cups is still enough to give me a strong case of the jitters, every time. Might be partially due the fact that I'm always on DXM, or afterglowing :\).

Cannabis also affects me strongly, but I'm finally gaining a tolerance to it.
 
exists said:
^With NBOMe compounds, isn't intranasal administration less effective than sublingual or buccal administration?
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Actually I have found that nasal administration is much more effective/intense, while sublingual/buccal is longer lasting and less intense
 
Nasal administration is definitely more effective and intense.
Those are pretty high doses usirius, but I guess I used to do 40mg 4-aco-dmt nasally to get a good strong trip going
 
While I would agree that we can use a centralized (/official) 'hardheads' thread, and a complementary 'softheads' thread like this one, in general please leave the mod-stuff to staff, you guys. Thanks.

Actually I suggest we change the title so that it covers sensitivity in general, it doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me to make a different thread for hardheads. IMO it is not the same as e.g. high dose and low dose appreciation threads, even though they have dosage in common. Agreed?

For the record: I'm personally averagely sensitive to psychedelics, but it depends per drug like I'm it does for other peeps. I can tolerate a lot of 2C-X for example (though there are exceptions).
However, with mushrooms I for one think that 3 or 3.5 grams (an 1/8th) is pretty aggressive or overly generous to consider a 'standard dose' like it used to be sold in smartshops and seems to be assumed over at communities like The Shroomery.
Maybe it qualifies as a full or strong dose like 200-250 ug of LSD instead of 100 ug, and it may be practical to provide people with at least enough should they want to trip very hard. But that is a different info pamphlet description than 'standard dose'.
I am still not sure if it's just me, if I am just very sensitive to mushrooms... or if more people would agree.
 
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No I agree that an eighth of potent mushrooms can be very intense.
Last time I had that amount with good quality mushrooms I hardly remember much from the trip, but I remember cascading fractals and morphing and a giddy laughter that would not cease.
If I wasn't experienced with psychedelics I easily could have been overwhelmed, now if you get a strain like penis envy which tends to be more potent than you could be sent on a mushroom breakthrough
 
Yes... Penis Envies are a mutant strain that has a lower success rate since it seems the mutations can impair growth. I'm not sure if the positives or the negatives win out, if you statistically yield more or less alkaloids per time unit if all other factors are kept the same... that might be a bit hard to test or it would take a LOT of time and energy and meticulousness.

In any case, Penis Envies are a funny novelty but if the mushrooms are meant for distribution I would actually recommend against this strain exactly because of what you suggest, HT: if someone is not aware of their unusual potency (a rare exception it seems) that someone may overdose, likely even (the question would be rather if the higher dose can be endured without incident, but the higher dose itself seems evidently unavoidable). Not very HR.

/offtopic but had to be done =D

I wish I had the sensitivity of Asante, it would save a good deal of moneys.
 
So you're saying that PE mushrooms generally don't grow to be as large as other cubensis strains?
They definitely are quite a novelty, the thought of chomping down on a large shriveled penis shaped mushroom is hilarious, especially if one was already high on mushrooms.
 
.:Holy::Toast:. said:
So you're saying that PE mushrooms generally don't grow to be as large as other cubensis strains?
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Smaller average size would be one effect, other examples are that the first flushes tend to yield a smaller amount and the fruits are gnarly and deformed. Yes it is possible for deformed mushrooms to grow big, but they abort more often than normal.
Since you frequently have to wait longer for a proper flush, the chance of contamination would be another way how net average yields may be reduced. And so on.
I agree though that they are cool, I want to cultivate the albino penis envies... but not because I am interested in large yields or widely distributing my crops. Rather for the novelty. ;)
 
I am sensitive to low doses of most psycs when I do them in the sense that I get full effects and characteristics from threshold amounts. But I still enjoy standard doses too. I don't know why. a 16th of an average blotter or 40 MG seeds would make a day for me, whereas you'll read and or hear so many people saying they don't even feel something until a certain amount. Not feeling something is absolutely foriegn to me.

But anyway OP, I'm not sure why small doses are strong. Everyones got something like that I guess. Like..I could drink.huge amounts, on top of an opiate even, but 25 mgs of dipenhydramine knocks me out within 40 min, even if I just woke up.
 
My main tripping buddy has a similar sensitivity to Asante, and it just annoys me to no end. I overestimate my doses, underdose or pay a bunch more. At first it's been real hard to just get to a similar space, and still we're not exactly in sync

Btw, what are your doses for DMT? Been apprehensive with doing this with him because it's just so easy to get the dose too high

HolyToast: IIRC tryptamines have a lower bioavailability nasally, so there's no real use apart from a shorter come-up and duration. With phenethylamines it's much more effective, especially with NBOMes that have such a low bioavailability sublingually
 
Hmm.. generally hardheads and softheads tend to have entirely different temperaments and attitudes towards psychedelic use, especially since among the hardheads is a large group who used the drugs so heavily in dose and frequency that their brain adapted by turning them into hardheads.

Then theres the topic of psychedelic macho-ism.

Personally I think its better to have a separate thread for hardheads and softheads as the debates and temperaments will be radically different.

I didnt know that declaring a thread "big and dandy" was a moderator level action, so I apologize for overstepping my bounds.
 
I know what you feel OP, I'm exactly the same as you! I always need tiny amount to have a full blown trip :(
For me "Treshold" dose on Erowid = Strong :P

I have full blown mind trip & hallucinations with :

10 mg 4-Ho-MET
10 mg 4-ACO-DMT
5 mg 2C-E
2 - 3 mg 2C-P
10 mg 2C-T-7
5 mg Methoxetamine
1/4 blotter LSD
8 mg DOM

I'm extremely sensitive, sometimes it's annoying :( It's roughly the same for stimulant aswell. Sometimes 30 mg MDMA is enough for me to have the feel of love :?

The maximum dose with Methylone was 50 mg, I'm sure over 50 will be too much for me...

That's the life...
 
kidklmx said:
HolyToast: IIRC tryptamines have a lower bioavailability nasally, so there's no real use apart from a shorter come-up and duration. With phenethylamines it's much more effective, especially with NBOMes that have such a low bioavailability sublingually
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Yea the only reason I used nasally was because I didn't have a scale so this way I could accurately titrate my dose up and do it quickly
 
Why the :( Kishka? Being very sensitive sounds like a useful quality to have as a drug user. And yes, 10 mg of DOM is an insane dose. You don't mean 1 mg?

I'm personally generally very average. How boring is that? :D
 
Yeah sensative is good. Except with weed. That's the only thing I'm sensative too. One hit, and I'm feeling sick as a damn dog
 
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