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The Big & Dandy HBWR/MGS/LSA Thread - Second Iteration

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For more experisenced, DXM, it's good moodlifter to take with LSA/others to boost it to spacey trip-blaast.

My hands were total-freaky growing inside-space-fingers. Handling Escherisch trans-dimensional inter-spacey transitions. Space was floating all-over, my friend turned into something almost like trans-dimensional spacealien messenger-guru.

It was every word that had the magic to mean as many aspects as enchanted reality can have. All i can say, the space was transforming all the time. And it could be handled. It was yesterday taking hourly doses as much as 200mg+200mg+300mg and then the rest 300mg to be total 1000mg of DXM. And the 5 good Hawaiian bayby woodrose seeds after the 400mg of DXM.

Music, especially trance, is good for beginners to get tuned in. And it can be quite trippy especially if it is internet radio, so you don't know what it's going to play next.

I was not meaning to courage any newbie to that DXM/LSA combo, but i think i can tell it here. And DXM is quite safe. So is HWBR. But naturals have that good side that overdosing in many cases causes too much nausea and then vomiting. Which eliminates the excess from stomach. So does DXM. And they are easily measured. Anyway, nobody miscalculates the amount of seeds, it is that somebody wants to take too much. Or isn't really ready to it.

I mean that it was a quite wild combination to me. To get the spirit rising uplifting with the DXM headspace, and the euphoria and the hallucinative properties of some psychedelic. IMO the seeds are best to be chewed throhoughly, hold and roll in mouth so that they are absorbed better. DXM really also hits the mind best as taken as small repeated doses a time. Maybe i was surprised little bit of the power that those chemicals have since my neuroleptic medication has now only one med. Mostly the HWBR got cleaner, to extend to almost to radiating light state of mind. Airs in holes, get it? 8o

I was thinking about other good combinations with DXM? Only after being familiar to it ofcourse. With the DXM 1000mg it was inspirously good and sure minded. And controll-able, no need of benzos to calm things down. Very, very sure mind. And the beauty and the weirdness. It wasn't just those neon-pastels but quite an alien-like beautiness. In the TV-news of inet and the air around that, it's forcefull power, whatever it is. But still 10 of HBWR would been to much and cause confusion. But with plain seeds it would be normal dosing, so it's synergy. And i know both of them but have never before done 'em together until now.
 
Well I'd believe you, it's just that I have read about people who seemed to have succesful potentiation with St Johns Wort or something but in other BL threads it was also said that MAOi does not work.

Will be merging this into the Big & Dandy LSA Thread,
the question has yet been answered sufficiently, since if potentiation doesn't work there is no reason to combine and if it does work it is a bad idea for other reasons that were explained. :)
Carry on.
 
The MAOi could potentiate the trip not by inhibiting the breakdown of LSA but by simply adding to the psychoactive effect in its own.
 
Indeed. But a scenario that is not even mentioned is that the MAOi does not potentiate the trip by inhibiting breakdown of LSA's since they are amides but you could still get increased side-effects because alkaloids that are monoamines will be less broken down!
So that would be really lame, no upside but only the downside :\ Hypothetically though.
 
And correct me if im wrong but syrian rue seeds seem to have some psychoactivity on there on (at higher doses), so really, like you said, if it doesnt potentiated it would certainly have some sort of synergy, assuming they do produce some sort of effect on their own
 
Morning glory seed questions ?

First off, does anyone here know how viable seeds are when they're still white ?
( In the green seed pod before it dies and dries. )
'cause I'm dealing with a whole bunch of those right now. A lot easier to eat. :\

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If You're having problems with vasoconstriction, take a reasonable amount of gingko biloba extract or chew a handful of leaves, these get the blood flowing everywhere, that's mainly why their popular nowadays. : :)

I'll put pictures up soon.

Also, There are certain ( usually bigger. ) varieties whose flowers leave behind a leafy casing that turns dry and brown occaisonally containing a pod with black or brown seeds inside that needs to be squeezed to tell if they contain seeds. Then there are those that grow the pods out of where the flowers were with no leafy sheath, these usually have the smaller, teardrop shaped seeds. I have both on my property.

:D

which brings me to my big question :

Wouldn't it be wonderful if someone could take photos of different varieties and compile them in a gallery, perhaps with a narrowing text search apparatus so people can tell which species are worth harvesting ?

perhaps someone could make this a sticky,
or create a Big n' Dandy mg strain thread. :|

where people could ask questions and single out good varieties and whatnot.

I've harvested these plants previously, grinded 200 black ones and went on a long car ride with nothing special beside a placebo.

Take care, U - $ = .
 
lol mornin glory is the shit
back when i first treid it i didnt have anything to grind em up with so i just chewed em up and it didnt barley do anything. but the extraction method is killlllller. when i first tried that it hit me so hard i couldnt see and and everything was black. it wasnt that great..........at all. but idk i think i might have done somthin wrong then but i dont remember it all that well. and i also woke up and drank it on an empty stomach (DuRRRRRRRR lol i always do that shit i feel the need to make it hit me as hard as possible to make sure i trip. i obviosly didnt kno what i was fuckin with tho. cus that stuff was hard) . it was a great trip once i started feelin better tho. i really wanna try hawain baby woodrose. any body have an opinion on hwbw over mg? cus ive herd its better.

and also man from what ive herd the blacker the seeds are they are the better
 
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HWBR seeds are the best IMO, I recently tried 5 grams of Morning Glories and wasn't impressed comparing them to 10 HWBR seeds.

Opiates or Weed on LSA is nice, I still remember my first trip on LSA very well... ;)

Peace o/
 
Getting Ready for HBWR trip

Just ordered some A+++ HBW seeds from the internet. Apparently they're over 3 times as strong as normal good seeds.
Anyway, I just want to know what I should do to prepare for the experience.

I've been reading through suggestions of previous posts such as cocoa powder to make the experience stronger
and something about ginger for the nausea. I have powdered ginger for cooking...Is this the right stuff?

Should I do them on an empty stomach/should i chew them up and eat them with anything like ice cream?
I'm thinking 3 or 4 seeds will suffice since they're supposedly "genetic freaks"and I'm hoping this will be a very strong dose.

If anyone has any more tips/suggestions I would love to hear them. Thanks guys...
 
I never believe bullshit claims about "Superpotent A+++++++++++ ZOMG!!!!!1111!!1!!" seeds and the like on vendor sites cos they're usually... bullshit claims, but 3-4 seeds is a reasonable starting dose for decent quality HBWR seeds anyway. You may or may not be underwhelmed but you'll have an idea for the next time :)

I've never done anything special to prepare for a HBWR trip myself. LSA is quite strong enough without any potentiation for me although cocoa tastes good so I don't see why not. Maybe add a dash of your powdered ginger to it as it really does help with nausea (although I never get any nausea with HBWR) and ginger tastes great with chocolate :D

For best results I like to chew the seeds for a long time - up to half an hour if possible - but I understand some people don't like the taste. Personally I think they just taste a bit woody and slightly bitter - nothing too bad - but chewing is far better than just swallowing which doesn't work too well. The longer you chew the better, in my view. I presume grinding them would maybe avoid the chewing but I think the amount of sublingual absorption from chewing gives the trip a real boost :)

Have fun :)
 
Is there anyone who prefers morning glory over HBWR that has tried both? I'm interested...
 
Is there anyone who prefers morning glory over HBWR that has tried both? I'm interested...

I find that I would rather ingest morning glories instead of HBWR because the latter tends to give me intense stomach cramps and vasoconstriction...not a pleasant experience at all. However MGS have always done the trick with little to no nausea.
 
For best results I like to chew the seeds for a long time - up to half an hour if possible - but I understand some people don't like the taste. Personally I think they just taste a bit woody and slightly bitter - nothing too bad - but chewing is far better than just swallowing which doesn't work too well. The longer you chew the better, in my view. I presume grinding them would maybe avoid the chewing but I think the amount of sublingual absorption from chewing gives the trip a real boost

So do I swallow after the 30 mins., and should I do this on an empty stomach?
 
LSA content of immature seeds

Hi PD,

I have a heavenly blue morning glory plant in my backyard and I'm wondering when to harvest the seeds. I'm not harvesting the seeds for planting, but for consumption.

There's a lot of immature seeds on the vine right now. They're plump, green & purple. How much LSA do they in comparison to mature seeds?

I've got some really shitty cell phone pics for you. (My real camera broke :( )
Mature seed pods: http://img14.imageshack.us/i/0919091535.jpg/
Immature seed pods: http://img30.imageshack.us/i/0919091539.jpg/ (Notice one of them is purplish)
1 mature and 1 immature seed, taken out of their seed pods: http://img42.imageshack.us/i/0919091538.jpg/

The immature seed is the white one. It feels spongy and a little moist to the touch, whereas the mature seed is stiffer but still has a similar spongy quality.

So: can I harvest now? Will the seeds be as good?
I'm worried that if I wait then the seeds will fall off (the mature seed pods came off the plant VERY easily)

I checked some threads on shroomery, there was controversy of whether immature seeds had the same (or more!) LSA. I browsed the Big & Dandy LSA/HBWR thread but I didn't see anything immediately. (That thread is also really fricken long! I'll admit... I only got to page six.)

And before anyone asks: Yes, there are enough immature seed pods to give me enough seeds for a trip. With all the flowers and buds there'll probably be another trip in it too.
 
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Merged post. Here you can ask away about LSA's and the seeds that contain them. :D
 
If the question is whether harvesting early will lead to more potent seeds, then there is no answer at the moment, and you should let us know how your experiments turn out!
 
I once harvested a bunch (about 100) of fresh MG seeds from some vines growing in a storefront garden on a street. I found dark ones and light ones, and only used the dark ones because they seemed mature and more like the ones you get in the seed packets.

I got a very weak "trip;" barely anything happened. I did get some nausea- stuff tasted terrible to me.

I hope yours actually works!
 
I think someone should say this, but they are shamanistic drugs and there isn't much of enjoyment there. The main goal imo is to focus, and it's kind of weakening and so on. I wouldn't mind someone playing a tombourine for couple of hours. Or to trie to keep focus for several hours where isn't much to do. Maybe the stream comes out to follow more easily with switching radio channels and television channels. It can be found there and that's the main idea i think. To follow the path on and on for hours. Or focus on universal love i think it was popular in the 60's. And try have some good phonecalls to loved ones and explain them what you are doing to yourself. If that's not a good idea maybe they aren't that close and good. It's also possible there isn't any ideation here of what to do with 'em just the idea of it being nature's acid. anyone?
 
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