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The Big & Dandy HBWR/MGS/LSA Thread - Second Iteration

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Dont get MGS, get the hawaiian strain of HBWR seeds. ((NOT THE GANNA OR INDIAN STRAIN)) I know a reliable website that has very very potent seeds that guarantee you a good trip everytime. I'd post it but that would be sourcing now, wouldn't it??
 
I really really really enjoyed my first LSA trip and it was my first psychedelic experience. I want to do it again but I am really turned off by the nausea and cramping I experienced before I was finally able to vomit. Are there any tips you have that work really well to make it at least bearable? It was easily the worst nausea I have ever felt from anything in my life. I can take the DXM nausea easily compared to this. It's the biggest obstacle. The next one is actually consuming the seeds.

The first time I dumped the 10.5 grams into two cups of applesauce and scarfed. It wasn't so bad at the time but now I can't even look at applesauce, LOL. I use the Bupree brand does anyone have a definitive answer on whether these are sprayed with any chemicals and if so does washing them in soap with hot water actually get rid of them?

So if any of you are frequent users of this substance and have some tips or tricks to making it better please let me know. I have posted in the big and dandy lsa thread but noone really pays attention to it anymore =(

EDIT: I know cannabis is good for diminishing nausea unfortunately that isn't an option as it can cause some major anxiety and possibly psychosis I fear. =/

Don't wash the seeds, you'll loose some LSA in the prossess. Next time buy HBWR seeds. You only need to eat like ten of em (five if you get em from the right vendor), and there's less nausea if you scrape the brown fur surrounding the seed off. Only get the hawaiian strain, not the ganna or indian. The Ganna and Indian strains are still labled Hawaiian Baby Woodrose Seeds. You need to make sure they're grown in Hawaiia.
 
Had LSD for the first time last night.

Mind Blown.

Has anyone ever had any experience with mixing weed edibles with acid? ie Pot brownies or hash cakes or w/e. xD
 
They are way better that DXM and it's headspace. It has at least three kinds of euphoria. Not that much hallucinative with my medication. The first, the "acid" feeling that is connected to visual magic, which is kind of, little bit part of the nausea, or it lingers on it. Next, the light good-feel all over the body. Then, the third down and behind the rush, that makes my ass/thigs explode all over the walls. It's not just a promise of euphoria, there's enough of it to anybody. Thank god the inventor of it. I was on 330 MGS and second day 9 HBWR scraped. They were just crushed and drinked with water. No vasoconstriction problem.
 
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Not only will Meth prob greatly increase the vasoconstriction but it will also prob. give the trip a very dark edge. But if you've got your heart set on trying the combo make sure to preload on a few L-Arginine capsules (a vasodilator supplement) then start with a low dose of HBW and low dose of Meth and a few hours into the combo you might want to take some more L-Arginine and some Taurine (a supplement which is vasodilator and lowers blood pressure and pulse).

The best times I combined LSA's and MDxx's were glorious and clean but the worst times (which involved speedier tabs) I got an out of breath feeling, racing heart, and muscle tension :(
 
Well am planning on doing it towards the end of the trip after combining with MDMA(maybe), as I am going out after wards.

Also I will be using an LSA extract not the seeds, and it will be the day or so after using mushrooms so I'm guessing my tolerance to the LSA will be fairly high, requiring a high dose, but with minimal effects.
 
If you're planning to do HBW the day after tripping on shrooms that's a pretty silly pointless idea...trust me. I know from past experience that LSA's are quite crosstolerant with Mushrooms (or blotter for that matter) and that if you've so recently tripped on shrooms you're going to barely feel the usual magic of HBW (even if you take a much higher dose than usual. All these psychedelics affect the 5HT2A receptor as I recall so one can't expect to by switching psychedelics not get the same tolerance as if you'd done the same psychedelic 2 nights in a row...

You def. should wait a good few weeks (preferably month or few months) before doing HBW if you want to get a full on trip. I've a good bit of personal experience attempting to do LSA's and Mushrooms or Blotter the same week and always getting such a weak trip when I'd try to do a second trip the same week on a diff. psychedelic than the first trip of the week.

I also think you def. shouldn't do MDMA AND METH the same day as HBW man...Sounds really dangerous and unhealthy. Do you realize taking just one strong stimulant can increase the vasoconstriction of HBW a ton? Not to mention I find the combo of HBW and certain stimulants (such as MDxx's)sometimes feels like it makes my heart race way more than just taking the stimulant alone.

I think maybe you need to re-evaluate why you're using psychedelics and try to approach them with a lot more caution. I dont understand if you're just doing psychedelics for pure hedonism and partying or what. I have to wonder when you aim to mix psychedelics with stuff like Meth (such a non spiritual, non insightful drug).

Think of it this way- HBW is a natural psychedelic that can make one feel deep connections with mankind, nature, a higher power, etc. And these connections can feel QUITE real and not just drug-induced and pushy. Meanwhile Meth is a drug that makes one feel so egocentrical and self absorbed and cocky. So combining Crystal with HBW could very well totally change the spiritual, insightful nature of the trip to the point it's just another pointless party high.

If you're determined to try combining stimulants with HBW I'd suggest a much milder stimulating drug (such as Thai Kratom, Japanese Sweet Flag, Alpha-Asarone, Yerba Mate, Cacao nibs, Hydergine, DMAE, ALCAR, Piracetam or CoQ10. I find more and more people really, really enjoy combining Kratom with LSA's. I myself LOVE this combo.

Kratom does a damn good job of smoothing out HBW and making it feel much more physically clean. Just make sure not to use too much of a sedating strain of Kratom (Indonesian or Bali) with HBW or you could end up making the usual HBW sleepiness/heaviness much stronger. So you'd want to go with Thai or Malaysian Kratom. I find Kratom also can amazingly lessen the side effects of MDxx's (to the point I once easily handled 6 tabs in a night because I was on so much Kratom that the roll never made me feel too speedy or have a racing heart/hot body at all).

By the way, I discovered few nights ago that Poppy Tea on the comedown from HBW is excellent way to end the night.

Personally, I think the drugs that prob. have the most potential with LSA's are Beta-Carbolines, Mescaline or possibly Salvia or DMT if you can handle those. I've tried Harmine and Harmaline with HBW and loved the synergy. I soon want to try this other Beta-Carboline, THH, with LSA's as I hear THH is much cleaner and more fun than Harmine or Harmaline.

No one has attempted combining Moclobemide and LSA's yet but I've a strong feeling the 2 might synergize quite, quite well (since Moclobemide is an MAOI and MAOI's are known to boost LSA's plus Moclobemide is energetic so it could make an LSA trip more alert and clearheaded.

I also have a feeling Hydergine might boost LSA's real nicely, seeing as people report it to boost certain psychedelics quite a bit. Not to mention Hydergine would make an LSA trip more energetic and counteract the usual vasoconstriction (since Hydergine is a vasodilator).

It would be wild to try combining the newest form of Deprenyl (Emsam) with HBW and see if there's a synergy...

Well, anyways, good luck man and please be safe. We don't need someone finally managing to OD themself on HBW by combining it with the wrong shit and waking up in the ER and possibly causing HBW unwanted law enforcement/media attention that could lead to state's banning it.

I consider LSA's every bit as special as the best of the best psychedelics and would seriously be bothered if all sources of LSA's were banned :(
 
Thanks for the info :).

Just that my best friend will be down for a couple of days only so we only have a limited time frame.

Maybe we'll leave it to the last day. And stick to the stimulants on the saturday night.

Does NOS go down well with HBW?

Salvia isn't very possible here in Australia but DMT maybe.

Thanks again for the info.
 
are there actually qualitative differences in the effects of the different LSA containing seeds?

Morning glories are softer. Very, very nice euphoria. Hawaiians are more hallucinative. Maybe it's that MGS get absorbed slowlier. I just cheved 10 Hawaiins yesterday and it was more that enough. Now i'm on 160 or 170 of MGSs and tripping very smooth. Very, very smooth all and all. And nice, no need of benzo.=D%)
 
^^HBWR are more sedating, which is REALLY nice but not something some people want. Great for a lazy walk through the bush with some friends on a sunny sunday afternoon. I've also found HBWR to be very euphoric too, and unforced, more natural-feeling euphoria than something like mdma.

Has anyone else had success with the peppermint oil extraction?

It works if you do it right but honestly i wouldnt bother unless you get really bad nausea. Just crush them up and eat them. If you're looking for the peppermint to potentiate it/convert to LSH then have some red wine (acetaldehyde and ethanol) with them, i've heard it works just fine, though i've never tried it.
 
I've had my lsa cold water extraction juice

In my fridge since Tuesday, it is now Saturday, is it still safe to drink and is it any stronger or weaker after this amount of time?
 
Depending on how you extracted, it might be stronger. When you mean sitting in the fridge, does that mean you left the entire bottle of sludge and liquid sitting, or had you already filtered out the seeds? A fridge is a cool dark place so there was little to no damage to the lsa
 
morning glory seeds for breakfast

affter failing 2 times at making a strong enough water extract im just gona try eating some seeds since i dont have enough to make another extraction any tips to eating the seeds? and how many should i eat?
 
I've tried eating the seeds before, the trip was weak, and the nausea made it not even worth it.
 
ive read alot of stories saying they ate seeds in moderations like 30 at a time every 10 min and tripped balls but alot of the stories said the nausea was bad but fuck i wana trip so bad been tryin all week and im out of bud
 
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