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The Big & Dandy HBWR/MGS/LSA Thread - Second Iteration

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can someone go through a simple process of harvesting the seeds from the actual plant? it's confused me alot, so far.
thanks
 
I don't know anything about picking the seeds from the plants themselves, so I can't help you with that sorry.

I got 20 LSA (HBWR) seeds now and want some input as to what would be nice to do on my trip, going outside in nature, stay at home with some weed and chill or listen to music while I got full-screen visuals on...etc.

So basically, anyone have any good ideas?
 
It depends on the level fo bodyload you gets. For me the load is too much to walk around outside, so I just lay down and listen to music with some visuals on the screen.
 
If it's your first time with LSA seeds, you might wanna chill at home for the first trip just so you have a bed accesible in case the nausea and cramps effect you a lot. Tripping always goes great with nature though. Meditation always goes great with tripping of course. A little bit of weed will help with the nausea.



I'm wanting to do a 30+ gram trip on morning glory seeds, however I definitely don't want to eat that much seed matter...so I want to do an extraction of somesort. The problem is that I have attempted to do an extraction before but the seed matter would NOT filter out no matter what I did, so I just had to trash it.

Anybody have some suggestions how I should go about doing this? Perhaps filling multiple tea bags with the seeds and one by one letting the bags soak in water or gatorade or whateever for bout an hour each? It just seems really hard to work with this much seed matter all at once.
 
As an experiment this afternoon, I decided to see if merely DRINKING red wine and peppermint tea (as opposed to doing an extraction) while dosing Rivea corymbosa seeds (via plain old eating) would be enough to change the actives into their LSH counterpart (a la the discussion on page ~5 of this thread).

I ate 134 seeds with about 1.5 glasses of red wine and a cup of peppermint tea towards the end of the dosing, and the trip ended up being pretty different. It was WAY more colorful, and it was less physically sedating boot! The headspace wasn't as far into psychedelia as normal though, but that may have just been due to set and setting or because lately I've been doing LSA with a low dose of DXM and didn't do so today.

My seeds were from kind of an old batch I think, so 134 seeds wasn't quite enough for a really solid trip. Next time I'm either going to up the dose to ~180 seeds or combine ~140 with DXM. Either way, I will definetely be 'boosting' my seed trips with red wine or peppermint tea from now on! Today was probably the most rewarding LSA trip I have had.


P.S. adrian89987 -- you could just pack the seeds into gel caps. it'd probably be a LOT of caps, but definetely a lot easier than eating that many seeds some other way.
 
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Hah yea, the thing I'm looking to avoid is the burping associated with digesting the seeds though. I just can't stand that taste anymore, it never makes me throwup or too too nauseous but I end up having the taste in my mouth the whole time.

And yea that would be a lot of caps, when I put like 4 grams of syrian rue into caps it ends up being around 10 caps, can't imagine trying to eat that many.
 
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And yea that would be a lot of caps, when I put like 4 grams of syrian rue into caps it ends up being around 10 caps, can't imagine trying to eat that many.
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4 caps of syrian rue powder alone (not as a booster) was enough to give me a serious ride.

Have you eaten syrian rue before?
 
Yea I have, I usually take at the least 3.5 grams which I would never be able to fit in four caps.
 
I recently had another successful trip potentiated by Peppermint tea. Again, all I did was eat my Rivea seeds as normal while sipping on a single cup of the tea.

So it seems like you don't need to get the peppermint or red wine involved in the preparation method at all. Just prepare your seeds (MG, HBWR, or RC) as normal and drink red wine or peppermint tea while you are dosing. You all should try potentiating your trips this way, it is way better in my experience! =)
 
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Yea I have, I usually take at the least 3.5 grams which I would never be able to fit in four caps.
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Well I had some soda with harmala mixed in it before. But it tasted grouse so I didn't gulp down a lot. Decided for caps instead.

I think I had 3 grams in total. I later used 1.5 grams as LSA booster, to good effect. Loads of nausea, though.
 
how many mg seeds to achieve ego loss

how many to achieve ego loss. i was thinking of just crushing them up in a coffee grinder and putting them in capsules
 
Merged in a question. I was going to close it and direct you to this thread, but dose to achieve ego loss is a subjective question, and thus, we'll try to get you some opinions. :)
 
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we can't give a dose; seeds are far too random and variable. Start slow with a new batch of seeds so you can figure that question out yourself; it's the only safe way to do it.

With my last batch, it was prolly 14 or 15 seeds - I don't know if that would give me ego loss, but I would prolly be blacked out for 2-3 hours.

I've seen extremely potent seeds before, however, so when I test a new batch, I usually take 6 seeds in a safe setting (no driving or public places).

I'm talking about HBWR. I can't give you a ballpark guess on morning glories -- they're really weak in my area.

I've never gone near that kind of dosing though. If you're not concious to keep your limbs moving, i imagine you could lose one, or more likely, some of your fingers from vasoconscriction.

This was answered a few times in this thread and the previous big and dandy thread -- you should check back for more information and make sure you are aware of the physical side effects. Feel free to ask for more details though.

be safe.
 
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HWBR seeds are the best kind of LSA containing seeds IMHO. Start out with 4-6 to test a new batch because the strength of the seeds can vary quite a bit. I had a +++ trip on 10 seeds, but never experienced ego loss, I felt that I was a part of nature and had a very strong mental trip. You can read about it in some of my posts in this thread. :)

Have fun & Peace o/
 
Not really, I have little time to write since my trips because I haven't got a lot of free time due to some stuff IRL and I keep forgetting to write them as well. I will finish them once I have my life sorted out a bit, should be only a week or two hopefully but I am not sure about that right now. When I have some free time I will finish them ofcourse. :)
 
Your original question was what dosage of MG seeds should you try?

Grind 5-20 grams (10 g sounds like an avg. dose from trip reports) of Heavenly Blue MG seeds (Burpee brand is recommended) to a powder and mix them in an ice cream malt and swallow it on an empty stomach. I find this really helps to mask the nasty taste and texture.

I don't see how you could put MG seeds into capsules unless you have a zillion huge capsules and lots and lots of patience...
 
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