☛ Official ☚ The Big & Dandy HBWR/MGS/LSA Thread - Part 3: Fluffy Dreams Continued

[Chaurus]

Tried some pills with LSA once. Experience was underwhelming. Why?

 

[donotdothis]

I don't know but i think erginine is where the magic is.

 

[Didgital]

I don't know but i think erginine is where the magic is.

do you mean ergine? what is erginine?

 

[donotdothis]

https://www.chemspider.com/Chemical-Structure.32698654.html

 

[Didgital]

https://www.chemspider.com/Chemical-Structure.32698654.html

Interesting. This had me go to the Iso-LSD page on wiki and specifically mentions isoergine being active with a bunch of sources (that I didn't check). Interesting that Iso-LSD is inactive and Iso-Ergine IS active...

 

[Sansert]

I have an extraction i devised.
It is very viable. I actually came up with 2 viable extractions, to isolate alkaloids cleanly and easily. If it ok to post them here?

 

[xdrc]

Interesting. This had me go to the Iso-LSD page on wiki and specifically mentions isoergine being active with a bunch of sources (that I didn't check). Interesting that Iso-LSD is inactive and Iso-Ergine IS active...

Ergine and erginine can interconvert. Afaik ergine binds more strongly but it has been theorised by David Nichols that erginine may have better brain penetrability and then converts into the (more) active ergine. None of this has been sufficiently proven as now as far as I'm aware (e.g. if the kinetics of isomerisation are fast enough).

 

[Didgital]

I have an extraction i devised.
It is very viable. I actually came up with 2 viable extractions, to isolate alkaloids cleanly and easily. If it ok to post them here?

Extraction discussion is allowed on bluelight, but you might get more visibility posting a dedicated thread also. Just don't let those LSI kids bogart/commandeer it.

 

[Sansert]

Extraction discussion is allowed on bluelight, but you might get more visibility posting a dedicated thread also. Just don't let those LSI kids bogart/commandeer it.

Ok
I will post it soon

 

[donotdothis]

You don't want to skip acidifying but don't overdo it, similar to this but with 2.5x less seeds used.

 

[red22]

I used [to] grow HBWR and would occasionally eat the seeds right off the vine. They were very potent and much more psychedelic than older seeds, I always figured it was from the LAH content.

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[JackARoe]

"My chemical investigations of Ololiuhqui seeds led to the unexpected discovery that the entheogenic principles of Ololiuhqui are alkaloids, especially lysergic acid amide, which exhibits a very close relationship to lysergic acid diethylamide (=ʟsᴅ). It follows therefrom that ʟsᴅ, which hitherto had been considered to be a synthetic product of the laboratory, actually belongs to the group of sacred Mexican drugs."

Albert Hofmann, Burg i.L., Switzerland, November 1992 [Pharmacotheon: Entheogenic Drugs, Their Plant Sources and History. Jonathan Ott. 2nd Edition. 1993, 1996. Natural Products Co. 9780961423490. Foreword, page 13.]
https://archive.org/details/pharmacotheon-entheogenic-drugs-their-plant-sources-and-history

 

[Sansert]

"My chemical investigations of Ololiuhqui seeds led to the unexpected discovery that the entheogenic principles of Ololiuhqui are alkaloids, especially lysergic acid amide, which exhibits a very close relationship to lysergic acid diethylamide (=ʟsᴅ). It follows therefrom that ʟsᴅ, which hitherto had been considered to be a synthetic product of the laboratory, actually belongs to the group of sacred Mexican drugs."

Albert Hofmann, Burg i.L., Switzerland, November 1992 [Pharmacotheon: Entheogenic Drugs, Their Plant Sources and History. Jonathan Ott. 2nd Edition. 1993, 1996. Natural Products Co. 9780961423490. Foreword, page 13.]
https://archive.org/details/pharmacotheon-entheogenic-drugs-their-plant-sources-and-history

Hi. I just realized something,

 

[JackARoe]

Hi. I just realized something

Hi back at you. Again no synth talk please.

 

[Sansert]

Hi back at you. Again no synth talk please.

Yeah the govt watching and even participating dont want people to know how to make cid that long time curiosity by tons of people the whole time everywhere.

 

[Didgital]

"My chemical investigations of Ololiuhqui seeds led to the unexpected discovery that the entheogenic principles of Ololiuhqui are alkaloids, especially lysergic acid amide, which exhibits a very close relationship to lysergic acid diethylamide (=ʟsᴅ). It follows therefrom that ʟsᴅ, which hitherto had been considered to be a synthetic product of the laboratory, actually belongs to the group of sacred Mexican drugs."

Albert Hofmann, Burg i.L., Switzerland, November 1992 [Pharmacotheon: Entheogenic Drugs, Their Plant Sources and History. Jonathan Ott. 2nd Edition. 1993, 1996. Natural Products Co. 9780961423490. Foreword, page 13.]
https://archive.org/details/pharmacotheon-entheogenic-drugs-their-plant-sources-and-history

This thread got me reading a little, morning glories were also used by ancient mesoamericans to create the heavy rubber balls for their ball game. The more you know huh.