It's interesting how so many people get mild effects from 2C-C... for me, I can take 30-40mg orally and trip quite hard. In fact it hits me harder than 2C-B at equal doses. It's one of my favorite 2C-Xs. In fact my experience matches what's in PIHKAL (which lists the dose at 20-40mg, with heavy visuals at 40mg, which is what I experience. I even like taking 10-15mg for a low dose that gives some of the headspace and mood boosting effects without distracting trippy stuff).
Anything under 100mg plugged is a waste of time for me. Guess I'm one of those people. No increase in sides at such a dose (not that I get many from it in any case). And I've gone much higher than that too, but you hit diminishing returns very soon. 50mg -> 100mg is a huge improvement, 100 mg -> 150 mg isn't that much better and 150 mg -> 200 mg is not worth the cost. All plugged. If you were to ask me the doses in PiHKaL and other online sources should be at least twice as high.
I still trip, but lower doses are pretty meh while high are awesome. Too bad it costs around the same per gram as other 2cs which makes the price per dose very high.
With 2c-e on the other hand even 14 mg is a strong dose for me especially side effect wise (tbh 2c-p is a lot milder as far as sides go for me). By sides I mean horrible nausea and too much stimulation.
Interesting how we are all this different.
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This seems about right ie you need about +/-75% of an oral dose to achieve the same effect. 2CC & 2CD both at 60mg plugged still pretty mild. Weird thing is 2C-E I tried at a stupidly conservative 10mg plugged (it didn't burn but it certainly is unhappy stuff in the back end) and the effect I would estimate at likely equipotent to 10mg oral ie all negative effects > gastric distress, uneasiness, tension and other unpleasantness
Have you tried 2c-p. 2c-e is unpleasnt for me to but 2c-p is fine. Vaping works too (the salt vapes ok so free basing is not required), hits almost immediately so you don't need to wait 90 min to see if you took too little, just right or too much. but the smoke is quite harsh and hard to hold in. And I imagine ondansetron
wold help a lot too if you can get it. It has the best synaesthesisia
I've ever gotten from psys so there's at least that.
>I've plugged 5mL liquid before in using stuff that's not very soluble in water, it's more than doable. But I'm pretty sure I have read somewhere that the less liquid the better for plugging when it comes to absorption.not to mention that 5ml will leak if you don't lie down for some time. (and I know the post I'm replying to is from 2017)-
>I've posted on the Lyrica thread but I thought I would try here too. Does anyone know if you can plug Lyrica? Is there to much powder?
Just eat it's bioavailability is very high with oral administration.
Can you plug lysergamides on blotters(just curious )? I know benzos in pg work (in ethanol should work too but concentrations of ethanol that high will be uncomortable. I know you can lick 25x-nboh blotters and place them in your nose and get normal effects.
>But yeah snorting 2C-Xs is awful, it hurts more than any other drug I've snorted. Feels like there is some real damage being done and it nearly ruins the trip for me.
4-fa is worse imo. The high potency 2c-x aren't that bad for me because the amount is so small.