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Lysergamides The Big & Dandy ETH-LAD Thread

I'm that kind of guy that needs at least 3 hits of good LSD for feeling something that worths.

With eth-lad 300ug are a mild trip for me, but enjoyable, 100-150ug I didn't felt a lot. With al-lad, 1p-lsd or ald-52 300ug doesn't worth it in my experience, I need to go +400ug.
 
I used to be that way without having built up a big tolerance. I mean back then I only got to try it out with LSD since the analogues hadn't been made available yet. Fortunately, somehow, these days I no longer have that freakish natural tolerance.
 
Sadly no tolerance, that would something I would be able to revert ;)

I only have got a high self-builded tolerance to dissociatives and GABA related stuff (benzos, alcohol and GBL, my holy trinity), but with psychedelics is like a natural tolerance to the effects.

The first time I tried a psychedelic was LSD, analyzed by Energy Control. Maybe the tabs were low-dosed, but didn't felt a lot from it, a joint was stronger than that experience for me.

At my psychedelic beginnings, without any tolerance to talk about because all was new and spared a lot in time, me and my group of friends fucked arround with DOC. 1.5-3mg had all my friends with crazy OEV while I only had got some kind of HD vision.

I never had OEV, or even CEV from psychedelics at normal doses, either with tryptamines, phenelytamines or lysergamides, and never abused them (Except at the beggining, a few months that I was dosing acid once a week, but that doesn't even count as a binge) and just trip like less than 10 times a year. I don't even try to push them higher than Erowid recommended high dosages because of respect and fear.

For bringing the visuals I need either to take really high doses, or combine with weed and dissociatives.

It's really a fucking bummer :(
 
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Oh wow you don't get much from any psychedelic? For me it was just lysergamides, I had a full-blown spiritual transformation the first time I took mushrooms.
 
Xorkoth said:
Oh wow you don't get much from any psychedelic? For me it was just lysergamides, I had a full-blown spiritual transformation the first time I took mushrooms.
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Nope, and I felt identified with you in that way from all I've read on your posts until recently, when I read the ones where you say that lately you started to have visuals and enjoy tripping again and stronger with less dosage, could you tell me your secret? :)

I naturally don't have got OEV or OEV from any trypt/phen/lysergamide at the doses people report to be normal, and I'm really afraid to push them because I fear the mindfuck would be unbearable (I've got ADHD and a racing mind, and that is boosted with psychedelics), so usually my trips are very mild on the visual, but hard on the mind.

But I can handle normal doses of any psychedelic pretty well whatever the set&setting just because I'm used to live with mindfuck on sober mode xP

I didn't experienced visuals in 10 years of all kind of drugs usage until recently, past year, when I had the idea to mix my dissos with my psychedelics :)

But from only psychedelics I'm too afraid to push them up to insane dosages just because I don't get crazy visuals like everyone else. For example, 25mg of 4-AcO-DMT/4-HO-MET are not very visual for me if I don't take them with some weed and/or a disso. And I always had fear to cross the lines that Shulgin draw ;)

Maybe this Monday I'll take 400ug of ETH-LAD on the nature without weed (I'm quitting it this year) and without dissos (I need a break) and report back what happened :D

From all the lysergamides I tried this was the one that caught my hearth. I really like it even more than LSD itself.
 
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So, Energy Control came back with LC/MS analysis from the last batches I was consuming of acid this year and past one. The older one was 114ug and the second one 79ug, both advertised as 100ug (The first one beeing upper that dose was surprising, I always expect less than what marketing tells)

So I can confirm now that for me 237ug of LSD (my usual dose for acid with that last batch) is by far better than 300ug of 1P-LSD/AL-LAD/ALD-52.

AL-LAD has it's own flavour so it'll still be doable in some situations.

300ug of ETH-LAD stills feels a better and stronger experience for me than 300ug LSD ;)

But no way I'll restock on ALD-52 or 1P-LSD having access to good quality LSD. Waste of money. I could buy 300 hits of arround 100ug LSD with the money that 100 suposedly 100ug 1P-LSD/ALD-52 costs, it's crazy expensive.

I'm going to send to analyze my legal lysergamides as well. Everyone seems to believe that just because they are legal the advertised dosage is acurate, but I'm skeptic as fuck. I wouldn't be suprised if the main legal lysergamides lab was pumping out blotters less potent than what they claim to be.
 
Good on you mate, thanks for sharing this info.

300µg of ETH-LAD blows out of the water any dosage I've taken of LSD, ever (highest I've gone is 4 tabs of "100µg" LSD - probably weaker than that though).

Good point regarding the dosing on the clearnet lysergamides, we're all just going on trust here. Looking forward to seeing your test results.
On that note, how accurate are the energy control tests?
 
They could be trusted, and improved a lot those last years, so I believe they are pretty acurate nowadays. LC/MS should be acurate enough, at least if the sheet of acid I bought was layed evenly.
 
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Xorkoth said:
Oh wow you don't get much from any psychedelic? For me it was just lysergamides, I had a full-blown spiritual transformation the first time I took mushrooms.
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Same here, I was never the same. Frequent mushroom use only further changed my views on life. I didn't really need to use any other psychedelics anymore after that, but I really like 4-aco-dmt, and 4-ho-met since shrooms give me crazy nausea every time nowadays. I want to try 4-ho-mipt. I still like to experiment, but a few mushrooms trips was all it took to notice I was very, very different. Acid did nothing for me whatsoever except get me really high, not that it wasn't fun but it seemed abrasive. Perhaps set/setting had to do with this but I think there is something special about mushrooms and dmt in particular (and possibly 5-meo-dmt and ibogaine). Mushrooms will always be my favourite... so down to earth.
 
sorry to bring it back to eth-lad

just go t a new shipment (in canada) and the blotters are more white than the last batch which were more gray (also from canada).
will advise if this resolves as a change in potency.
 
Interesting, it's the opposite from me! Newer blotters are a bit darker.
Still had three tabs acquired one year ago to compare. The new ones just arrived last week.

edit: Same thing goes for 2-year-old AL-LAD and the newest batch.
 
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Should we correct for your username though?

Anyway thanks msk, real data is always very cool and welcome...

I didn't have a chance to take ETH-LAD last weekend since carnaval really bugged the SHIT out of me at unexpected times and other things did too which ruined the consistency of my set and setting. But I will definitely go for it next weekend!!!

Still not sure how much but I am sure I will go for a sufficient dose =D
 
I know that I am the party pooper in this forum but I can't stand these myths: ETH-LAD would would form white crystals when pure. It should not make white blotters dark. Any coloring is a sign for impurities meaning that the synthesis was sloppy or the compound was cut.

Only lab testing can give you reliable data.
 
I don't think anybody said that? Probably the reasoning is more like: if something happened to the crystal product during synthesis making it darker it might have been significant enough to become a bit more impure effectively making the potency lower.
 
between pure powder and blotter there has to be a fluid soak or dropping stage, and the color can creep in with that.
 
pupnik said:
between pure powder and blotter there has to be a fluid soak or dropping stage, and the color can creep in with that.
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How do you know this? I have some pretty discolored AL-LAD crystal which is the AL-LAD many people have been enjoying for quite some time... not sure how often batches are renewed (well not anymore for these 6-subbed ones unfortunately :( ) but it seems there is enough discoloration before any blotter-laying to explain the tinge of the blotter. This discoloration could very easily vary between batches, but the question is whether the actual batches of the product were different, or just the blotter laid.
 
that is great to hear, gray powder.
surely gray powder will make gray blotters, and I have really enjoyed those.
your powder will be lovely I imagine.
I don't know but guess.
my new eth-lad blotters are more white, haven't tested them yet, but I am thinking it's a whole other substance, maybe 1-p? I'll probably check it out tomorrow.
 
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