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The Big & Dandy Ego Death Thread

If it is not unfrequent, I wonder why egodeath on weed seems undocumented? Until reading the responses on this forum, I seriosuly believed that what I had experienced was either false or an anomoly.

It is immensely relieving to hear that others know what i'm talking about - Cannabis Sativa, I particularly identify with your situation.


WHY IS EGODEATH SO HORRIBLE ON WEED???

WHY DIDN'T I TAKE ACID INSTEAD?
 
^ Well the good people of Glenside should just count their lucky stars that it's not a job I could pull off without an accomplice! You could've changed the world, man!
 
To be honest, Bludda's experience sounds very much like Salvia to me, from:

<Look at arms> Arms are a box are a man running up my arms are boxes are a man running up my.... (repeats)
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It is at this point I believe my 'self' began recontructing itself again, because the "I am" began identifying itself against what it was not. I felt like a baby. Layers of onion skin began to reform. At some juncture here I realised that while my sense of "I" ceased at some point, my awareness never did.
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Quite similar to experiences on Salvia I've heard about...

Any way you could have smoked some Salvia by mistake? Have you ever tried Salvia?
 
researchemist said:
the bermuda triangles in adelaide had 2C-B in them didnt they? way off topic but anyhoo...
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No they didn't have either, the only ones that were lab tested had LSD in them, this was a fair while ago now. But there have been many batches so who knows really.

Ego death is a powerful thing, what you described sure sounds it, I'm surprised it was just from weed.
 
Since someone above asked how to induce ego loss...

I experienced ego loss yesterday. I first smoked a large doobie with a few friends, and waited for two more to show up. A couple hours passed, so I wasn't super roasted by the time they arrived, and we didn't wait long to get out the 5-MeO-DMT. They both gave it a shot, and then it was my turn. Before vaporizing my (9mg) dose I breathed deeply for a bit, and inhaled a large lungful of nitrous oxide. The nitrous came on strong and fast, bringing me up to the point of the 'noisy' colourful (but fairly mild) visuals I get when combining with pot. I vaporized and inhaled my dose and was wallopped first by the intense body buzz, then colour cycling 3D fractals, and finally dissolution of the ego.

I was completely unaware of my surroundings, self etc. I could also feel my ego dissolve, up to the point at which it was gone enough that I wasn't really around to notice anymore. Existence became pure sensation, and I have to say, it was pretty intense.

The above experience was the second time I tried 5-MeO-DMT so I had some idea what to expect. I have to say that 5-MeO-DMT has induced the quickest and purest ego loss I've experienced. Ego loss that I've gotten from mushrooms or acid was always accompanied by a lot of distorted thought, sometimes of a rather worrying nature, whereas 5-MeO-DMT left me about five seconds to worry before I ceased to exist.

Ego loss isn't my goal per se, but is usually a result of the intensity I seek. Yesterday it was quite pleasant, but I can definitely see how it can be a bit much, even terrifying. Other people have made many good suggestions/comments throughought the thread, so I won't repeat them, but instead suggest that if you think ego loss is something that you'll be experiencing again, you might want to try and, well, not get familiar with it, but maybe make its acquaintance under better terms.

Hm, that's more than I meant to write... well... Best of luck with your continued existence or lack thereof.
 
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People often have this notion that 'spiritual experiences' are uplifting, affirming, joyous times. In actuality, ego loss/death by its very nature is both a spiritual experience AND a dark and frightening one. What else do we cling to so desperately than our own sense of selfworth?

I experienced the most intense trip of my life last spring when I took a large dose of the indra extract of Iboga. Thirty-six hours of unhinged death and torture, being hunted and dying over and over again. It took me three weeks to come back from the experience of ego death and psychedelic torture. Part of 'grounding' again was accepting the deeply spiritual aspects of the journey while also accepting that they came to me in the darkest possible light.
 
redhead_frenzy said:
People often have this notion that 'spiritual experiences' are uplifting, affirming, joyous times. In actuality, ego loss/death by its very nature is both a spiritual experience AND a dark and frightening one.
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For some, spiritual experiences ARE 'uplifting, affirming, joyous times.' This includes ego loss. I think calling ego loss dark and frightening 'by it's very nature' is totalising.
 
What I'm saying is that just because an experience is 'spiritual', one should not assume it will rightly be uplifting. Spirituality comes in many diverse forms.
 
^ Yes I figured as much. But that's not what you said before.

Sorry to be pedantic, but when it comes to things like 'spiritual experiences' we're dealing with highly subjective phenomena. Which is why I agree so strongly with Erowid when they state that "you cannot deny the experiences of others" in their psychoactive experience vaults. So I respect that for you and others things like ego loss were/are dark and frightening, just be careful with phrases like 'by its very nature.' It could frustrate others for whom these experiences were so different.
 
Spiritual experiences are just experiences. There are no inherently 'good ones' or 'bad/dark ones', it is the context under which we interpret them and the meaning we ascribe to them that colours them.

For example, it's becoming clear to me that my ego death was horrible because I was not seeking it, could not accept it as a consequence of having just smoked weed and then fought it.

a_benign_hum had a different reaction to the exact same 'type' of experience because he/she was seeking it and the the conditions under which it occurred were different.

I 'spose spiritual experiences are like drug experiences = set and setting are crucial.

Hahahahaha, A 'drug-like' experience induced by a drug experience....

Experience -> experience -> experience -> experience.....

I wonder if one can induce a 'drug' experience whilst in a state of trancendental spiritual experience induced by an initial drug experience.

I wonder if that's what I'm doing now?


I think I'll induce a state of me shutting up now.
 
Specialspack: I've been intersted in trying Salvia for quite a while.... but if it's anything like what I experienced, I reckon I'll pass until my mind has calloused over a bit. I'm finding this reailty bewildering enough these days... 8(

It's impossible that I smoked the sweet Divinorum by mistake because others smoked the same stuff with me and were fine - albeit ripped.
 
Bludda said:

For example, it's becoming clear to me that my ego death was horrible because I was not seeking it, could not accept it as a consequence of having just smoked weed and then fought it.
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Heh. Ever seen someone fully go flip on psychedelics - a 'bad trip' that then becomes even more unhinged because they become terrified and resist the drug making its way through their system? I agree that spiritual experiences could happen in similar light. Resist it, and it might bludgeon you to compliance.
 
^Yeha.

In fact, it's not just psychedelics. I can't think of any drug I've tried for which resisting it was ever a good idea.
 
lol, yeah, except nicotene.:)

But even there it's more the cravings one should resist. Ever tried nicotene patches? They make the thought of smoking a cigarette outright sickening for most people, because they administer a constant supply of nicotene (which can be hard to adapt to if you're used to sporadic 'hits' of nicotene like as comes with a cigarette). The one time I tried patches I started feeling so ill because I had so much trouble adapting to this 'constant administration'...the only way around it was to not fight it. shrug.
 
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