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☛ Official ☚ The Big & Dandy DOC Thread - Third opinion

Yeah absolutely, not disorienting mentally and very social, I feel pretty fearless on it and like talking to strangers, for example.
 
Hi. i would like to start exparimenting with doc i would like to ask some question to experienced user since i'll get 200mg soon
 
1) does benzo help with comedown and make sleep possiblt at T+15h?
2)is snorting (maybe with a nasal spray for dosing) a good way to cut some hours from the trip?
3)due to biuld up of tolerance,can i use at the same dosage weekly like aced,or it takes more than 1 week to reset it?
4)would it be a good idea to take a low dose doc (like 1.5mg) and a low dose on another short-acting psychedelic to make a good trip but without all the residual stimulation of high dose doc?
 
1) I tried sleeping with etizolam at +16-18 and still had difficulty. I'd say no unless you take a hefty dose.
2) No
3) IDK
4) 1.5mg is not a low dose of DOC. Even 300ug has a good amount of stimulation. 1.5mg is not going to avoid anything.
 
Yeah, 1.5mg may be a "low dose" but I wouldn't characterize it as a light experience. 1.5mg lasts about 8hrs for me and isn't too stimulating, but it's still a full trip. Based on what I've read that's unusual - most people still find the duration to be pretty long. I'd say that the psychedelic elements emerge at higher doses than just the stimulation. One of the things that makes me a bit more reserved about DOx than other psychedelics is that they seem pretty impervious to benzo aborts - I just accept going into them that I'm in it for the long haul.

Snorting doesn't to reduce duration, but faster ROAs (vaporization or injection) might shave a little bit off. That said, I don't think getting dumped straight into the midst of a DOC peak without any time to ease into it sounds like much fun.
 
What is the re-dosing protocol with DOC and at what time in will be it appropriate? I had the impression from a previous experiment that the tabs were unevenly laid-trying to figure out if for the next voyage to dip into 1 and a half initially or just take the plunge into 2 . Supposedly mine were 2.5 but from what Ive read my experience on the first go definitely felt like how people describe 1.5
 
I find that redosing DOC for the first few hours works pretty well. After that it just kinda prolongs the experience, unless you redose more than you'd think you would need to. Pretty much the same as with other psychedelics, except the redose window is probably a little longer because DOC takes longer to reach a peak than most psychs.
 
Loved this thread, so much that I ordered me some DOC pellets.

Will probably be a while until I'm able to try it, but it can't hurt to have some lying around right. I got the impression this is great to do with friends, so I better start convincing them.
 
It's definitely great with friends, very social drug. It's a huge time commitment so make sure to do it early in the day. Also if you didn't catch it from this thread, it's important to be doing something physical and engaging during the come-up. My favorite is to go on a long hike or something. If you sit around at home the trip feels very jittery and uncomfortable. That said, it's one of my absolute favorite drugs, top-notch stuff.
 
I want to double click on the importance of being physically active during the first 2-4 hours. I can't overemphasize how uncomfortable the excess of energy is if you're not active.
 
Shadowmeister said:
It's definitely great with friends, very social drug. It's a huge time commitment so make sure to do it early in the day. Also if you didn't catch it from this thread, it's important to be doing something physical and engaging during the come-up. My favorite is to go on a long hike or something. If you sit around at home the trip feels very jittery and uncomfortable. That said, it's one of my absolute favorite drugs, top-notch stuff.
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So, I got 100mg instead of pellets ;). Put 15mg in 30ml distilled gin, and it's ready for use this saturday.
Exams will finally be finished, so I'll be carefree with lots of time and no responsibilities.

My plan is to take 2,5mg as early in the morning as possible (I'll be pretty tired though, after more than 2 weeks daily stimulant use, and friday night I'm going clubbing, sober probably), but knowing myself it'll be around noon. I'd take a bus to a big neighboring nature park. Mostly because I don't want to fall into my standard tripping alone routine of worrying about me not having done the dishes, listening to music, and at the tail end watching Seinfeld.

It'll be pretty cold though, almost freezing.. that's why I'm hesitating a little on the hiking part, but I guess I should just go for it. If I regret it, it's only like 40 minutes away by bus..

Any final tips? Dosage wise I should be okay I think
 
2.5mg is a nice full dose unless you have a lot of built-up psychedelic tolerance.. I recommend the hiking, just dress warm. Sitting around the house for the first stage of DOC really is not great. Be prepared for the duration, your tiredness will probably help you sleep earlier than you would otherwise but it'll be the wee hours most likely. DOC is quite a functional psychedelic for how strong it is so being out in the world is nice. It peaks around 5 or 6 hours in I would say.

Have fun!
 
I dosed about 6 hours ago, so I'm still going pretty hard. Maybe I'll write something more detailed/meaningful tomorrow..

But let me just say, WOW, this beats any other drug experience I have ever had completely out of the window, no chance.
The come up was incredibly smooth, I almost didn't notice. And for the hours that followed I felt intensely happy, I was walking around with gigantic pupils, and an incredibly idiotic smile :D.

My happiness knew no bounds, it has never felt so real, I was brought to tears, I was literally dancing and singing in the beatifully green bushes. So, I just kept walking, exploring some stuff, sometimes just laying on my back for 20 minutes..

I have to say, I have walked like almost 10 kilometers, and rode double that amount with my bike, and I'm still very energetic, little jittery as I'm writing this. I'm hoping to relax right now, slow down.. listen to some music, if I want to sleep I should have some Etiz lying around.

I can't believe this was my experience (and still is! It can only get better from here) after I had read completely through all of the bluelight DOC threads, extraordinary trip reports (your's are a personal favorite Shadowmeister...), it's what I expected but times soo much more, maybe I'll write a trip report tomorrow.. but I don't know if I'll be any good at it, I'm not very well versed in putting my experiences into words, at least not in English..

I'm excited to see what this incredible day has got to offer me more.. I'm pretty annoyed right now though by my lesbian neighbours who I'm not sure are fighting, or partying, but let's see anyway :)

Edit: Have to say the weather was absolutely dogshit hahaha, like almost couldn't be any worse. Almost freezing, windy and raining, but I loved it anyway
 
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It's pretty difficult to sleep, even with heavy amounts of etiz, before 15-18 hours.

I'm glad to hear it's been so amazing, though :)
 
Yeah 6 hours in and you've got a long way to go. Around hour 8 to 10 I usually start feeling absolutely perfect. Although it sounds like you've been feeling that way the whole time. :) Etizolam will be your friend for sleeping later. Though I usually don't want to sleep because I'm having such a nice time.
 
Physical discomfort was high at some point though, I got home and felt really tired, but laying in my bed was near impossible, so I got up and roamed the city with my headphones on for a couple hours, and visited a good friend in the meanwhile.

Although I'm still very tired, I don't feel as speedy as earlier. I'm still completely baffled about my experience earlier today, would've never expected it beforehand, never even thought hours and hours of REAL happiness and pure bliss were possible on psychedelics
 
Despite my inability to tolerate most "speedy" substances I do look forward to eventually trying this one. I see hiking suggested by many people my question to them is: On the trail do you find yourself still able to take care of your needs? By that I mean taking in enough water/salt/food or is it like MDMA where you constantly have to remind yourself to drink water? I'm sure after 12-18 hours you feel wrecked the next day but would you guys with experience be willing to use DOC during an extended stay in the woods?

I want to take various substances with me for my AT thru-hike and I'm thinking DOC will make that list. I don't plan on using everyday or even every week but I do want to partake of things like LSD during special days. I just don't want to be totally wrecked in a tent/hotel for longer than say 2-3 days after using something. I know most substances I plan on taking well enough to know what to expect but given I have no experience with DOC I'm not sure how it'll work out being so far away from civilization. If the chance comes up soon I plan on taking it for the first time before attempting it on the AT so hopefully I'll have a better grasp of it before next year. I really should have bought some the last time I saw a vendor offering some. I had a good stock of stuff at the time so opted out of buying anything else but now it's many years later, I've given away most of my stock, and I've found that most of the vendors I used are no longer around or operating under new names. Things change a lot in just a few short years.
 
DOC is very clear-headed, I have never had issues taking care of myself or navigating unexpected difficult situations. I use it when river hiking which is an activity consisting of climbing/jumping across boulders uphill in a mountain river. Very dangerous activity, but I always feel that DOC actually aids in my ability to do it successfully.

DOC produces a lot of energy, but it's not speedy in the way that actual stimulants are. It's more like the energy of LSD turned up.

I think DOC would be perfect for backpacking. However you should definitely try it and get familiar with it first before taking it in such a situation.
 
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