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The Big & Dandy DOC Thread (Part 2)

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~NaStYNaI~ said:
OH YEA..AND THIS IS TO THE ADMINISTRATORS/MODERATORS..WHY CAN I NOT VIEW "THE OLD AND OVERGROWN DOC THREAD(FIXED)"????...i can view any other thread bit not that one..im sad
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Maybe you have the wrong link? I thought maybe something was up with permissions if you couldn't access it, but I tried completely logging out of my account and I can still see it then, so it's not like only staff can see it.

Here's the correct link: http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/threads/209750-The-Old-and-Overgrown-DOC-thread-(fixed)

I'll add it in to the main post since it didn't seem to be there before.

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How do you guys think taking 4mg DOC with some tolerance would be? Would it be a good level?

Regarding the tolerance, I took 1.2mg of 25C-NBOMe on the morning of Sunday the 4th, it's the afternoon of Monday the 12th, so it's been just over 8 days, which is usually enough with psychedelics, but I'm assuming I still have tolerance based on the reports of NBOMe tolerance lasting longer.

The obvious decision would be to wait but I'm an impatient bugger :p
 
I think even with tolerance you should get some good effects from DOC at 4mg.

Not quite the same but last year I took some low quality MDMA + ~2mg DOC for a concert, and then that weekend my friends visited me and I dosed DOC again. I took 7mg to counteract the tolerance and it was one of my most visual trips ever.
 
I took 5.5mg of DOC and didn't quite have the godly trip I was hoping for, it was pretty amazing though!

does anyone get INTENSE restlessness from the comedown of DOC? I was laying down trying to sleep off the effects of the drug and it was like my body wanted me to run for miles instead..


during the most intense effects of the drug I was slowly losing the awareness of my surroundings and entering a dreamlike mode where I could walk around and do things inside my head but it never fully developed into what I was hoping for...

probably gonna take 7+ mg next time but i'll eat better beforehand.
 
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I had a ++++ experience from 4.4mg years ago, the dosages here seem super high to me. And I'm not particularly sensitive.
 
Well, I've already taken 4mg. Just under 2 hours ago. We'll see how it goes :)

Music already sounds pretty awesome at this stage, but the visuals aren't too strong just yet. I can't really see it ramping up to a ++++ even if the come up does suddenly speed up any moment, but I think it'll be a nice +++ and a lot of fun :D
 
I'm having trouble imagining a +4 on DOC. Its so light and subtle while still being very psychedelic. I've taken it up to 6 mg. It just seems to lack the "in your face" attitude of the 2c's and tryptamines.

Have fun Jesus! I'd love to hear how it goes.
 
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I took 5.5mg of DOC and didn't quite have the godly trip I was hoping for, it was pretty amazing though!

does anyone get INTENSE restlessness from the comedown of DOC? I was laying down trying to sleep off the effects of the drug and it was like my body wanted me to run for miles instead..
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Yes! I try and lie down and my body wants to fidget forever. I also get really itchy for some reason. Next time I do DOC I definitely need benzos on hand to kill the trip after 12-13 hours.

And I don't know about you guys, but when I took 7mg it was definitely a strong +++, maybe even a ++++. It was mindblowing and yet I was still cognizant. Fantastic.
 
7mg is solid +++ material for me, 13mg was a very strong +++. I don't think DOC is really a "++++" psychedelic for me, but then again I don't think I'm very prone to those states on most conventional psychedelics anyway (the only ones seeming to have any ability to propel me to such a state have been tryptamines). DOC is actually kind of an ultra-cognizant drug for me, my analytical abilities become sharpened quite astoundingly, which in its own way is very profound.
 
13mg!? damn, you must have had some serious vasoconstriction. 8mg without weed and l-arginine can sometimes be unbearable. It was really hard to get ++++ on DOC but I did manage to get it one time.
 
Definitely smoking a bowl or two helps to achieve a more spiritual & visual state with this chem.
 
Jesusgreen said:
Maybe you have the wrong link? I thought maybe something was up with permissions if you couldn't access it, but I tried completely logging out of my account and I can still see it then, so it's not like only staff can see it.

Here's the correct link: http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/threads/209750-The-Old-and-Overgrown-DOC-thread-(fixed)

I'll add it in to the main post since it didn't seem to be there before.

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How do you guys think taking 4mg DOC with some tolerance would be? Would it be a good level?

Regarding the tolerance, I took 1.2mg of 25C-NBOMe on the morning of Sunday the 4th, it's the afternoon of Monday the 12th, so it's been just over 8 days, which is usually enough with psychedelics, but I'm assuming I still have tolerance based on the reports of NBOMe tolerance lasting longer.

The obvious decision would be to wait but I'm an impatient bugger :p
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SEE i went to that link and it says..."Invalid Post Specified.If you followed a VALID' link,p[lease notify the administrator"

so what does this mean???
 
^ Indeed, try that, that's weird.

Anyway, my DOC trip yesterday was rather fun. It wasn't "strong" as such in the visual or psychedelic departments at 4mg, whether or not this was due to the dose or existing tolerance from taking 25C-NBOMe 9 days prior I'm unsure, but I quickly came to realise that while I originally wanted a very intense trip - at this level the chemical really shined.

It was very stimulating, and the type of stimulation felt so clean and nice that I had to make use of it. I've always read people talking about cleaning on stimulants and I never understood it - I always just wanted to chat to people and do meaningless shit, never anything useful - but on DOC I cleaned everything from top to bottom, and had a ton of fun doing it too! (As a result, all my shit is nice and clean and I've stopped hacking my lungs out like a lung cancer sufferer every minute!)

The visuals were nice, I'd use the word "fuzzy" in particular to describe them as it was like objects were slightly bleeding out at the edges onto other objects with this sort of fuzzy mist. They weren't very distracting at this level, but still very present, something akin to 8mg or so of 2C-E if I had to compare it with something. Everything took on a nice soft fuzzy look and was pleasant to look at.

In terms of the mental effects it was very clear headed but if I focused on something I could easily lose myself in deep thought and forget about the outside world, something that's quite rare for me on phenethylamines normally.

I was able to communicate with people absolutely normally, easier than on any other psychedelic I've ingested, and I was very talkative. I had no paranoia at any point either.

The body high was very pleasant. On the come up there was some back and chest tension, and my stomach hurt, similar to hunger pains (though I'd eaten recently) - but once I came up it felt very pleasant and euphoric, if I had to compare it to something else I'd compare it to say 15-20mg of 2C-B.

The total duration was a lot shorter than I was expecting. The peak lasted maybe 8 hours or so, and I fell asleep by T+12:30, and had to stop myself falling asleep long before then (T+10:30 to T+11:00 or so).

Overall a fantastic substance and I'll definitely be getting my hands on more :D

I might write an actual report at some point but I'm not sure.
 
heh, nice trip Jesus, glad you liked it. in fact this sounds a lot like some of my experiences with the chem. especially the part about it not lasting as long as some day it does... strange brains eh...

anyway, curious to see how you feel the following day. any after effects?
 
Yep, feeling very motivated today, a nice pleasant afterglow - also something I've never had from phenethylamines before! :D

There's also a bit of mental stimulation left over, and on a less pleasant note a tiny bit of jaw tension (which wasn't present during my trip itself as far as I'm aware) but nothing very noticeable and it might be unrelated. I'll just eat some magnesium and it'll go away. :)
 
glad you like it... now see if the weed will bringback some of the trippyness...

ime, doc gives a very pleasant afterglow that can be a lot of fun to entertain... as in, trying to see how much is left of it and what you can do with that in normal sober activities...
 
@Jesusgreen, sounds like a typical DOC report, except the fact your visuals were just mild fuzziness. This definitely sounds like a tolerance thing, as DOC has given me jaw-dropping CEVs and superb OEVs/visual enhancements. It's hard to imagine it not doing that at 4mg unless tolerance is involved.
 
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@Jesusgreen, sounds like a typical DOC report, except the fact your visuals were just mild fuzziness. This definitely sounds like a tolerance thing, as DOC has given me jaw-dropping CEVs and superb OEVs/visual enhancements. It's hard to imagine it not doing that at 4mg unless tolerance is involved.
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^ The reason I said I'm not sure it's tolerance is that my friend sampled one of these same hits with no tolerance and also reported the visuals weren't that strong.

The visuals (OEV) weren't exactly mild, they were very present and hard to miss but they weren't the incredibly distracting colours-flying-everywhere type visuals I've gotten from good doses of things like 2C-E, 2C-P etc in the past, I wouldn't describe them as strong compared to other phenethylamines I've taken at that level. The CEVs were much more interesting though, very colourful and unique. It also doesn't help that my last trip was 25C-NBOMe so my standards for visuals were set rather high after such an incredibly visual trip.

That said I'm sure there was some tolerance involved too, but I don't think it would have been much more visual without given my friend's description. It may be that the tabs themselves are degraded or not 4mg as stated, though the source has proved very reliable in the past (but then again they might not be the one making the hits). It's worth noting though, that these hits came from within Poland, and there are a lot of similar reports on the largest Polish drug forum, saying that 4mg (VERY likely to be the exact same hits) was not exactly strong or very visual - so I'd question the hits before I questioned my tolerance. A lot of people on that forum are recommending 10mg+ o_O - from that I'd guess that maybe the hits are more like 1.5-2.5mg, somewhere in that range.

@Nasty, have you checked if the URL remains the same in your address bar once it gives you the error? Some browsers can do weird things to an address sometimes when you click a link etc. You should ask over in the support forum - remember to provide the link to the thread and not just the name, and include the fact that other Bluelighters are able to view it just fine.

It'd be worth clearing your cache, and trying a different browser too.
 
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