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The Big & Dandy DOC Thread (Part 2)

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green tea will help with the vasoconstriction, but caffeine will make it worse.

i wouldn't do a 600mcg redose the next day personally. save your doses for when you don't have a tolerance, you'll get more bang for your buck that way.
 
yup, gotta give yourself time to integrate the trip into your sober day to day life

if you keep dosing you can forget the lessons and actually move backwards in life progress
 
^Dude, this kind of "live" reporting is not allowed at Bluelight, for several reasons. You should gather all this information from your posts and combine it in to a proper trip report which you can then post over in the Trip Reports subforum. You should do this before all these posts get snipped by the mods.

And also, please don't make multiple posts about the same thing. You have 9 long posts in a row here. Instead of pressing the "Post Reply" button each time you want to add something, use the "Edit" button to add to your original post. If the post is becoming too long to read, you may want to proofread it and try and cut it down to a manageable size for one post so that you get more readers. This isn't really a problem for the Trip Reports forum, because it is expected that the original posts are going to be long ones.
 
one thing i noticed on this chem is a "lump in my throat" feeling especially on the comeup,and sometime after the peak and near and after the comedown some weird almost throbbing pain in different parts of my body like the bottom of my foot/shoulder/arm almost feeling like a blood clot....

anybodt else experience this?any reccomendations??
 
Does smoking weed on this take it up a notch like with most psychedelics? I'd assume so, just checking. I'm hoping to dose it some time in the next few days, but I only have 4mg, and I'm looking for a very strong experience without muddying my first trip on DOC with another psychedelic - so I thought a little ganja might go a long way. :)

Regarding the stimulation - is this one of the ones that's uncomfortable to sit down on and it's better to be active and doing things? I'd like to know so I can plan the best place for my trip - whether somewhere where I'm up and active, or a relaxing night in at home.
 
Jesus-- DOC + weed go together very very well, each hit usually provides a noticeable increase in CEV's

I find the stimulation to be somewhat shroomlike where the main thing you wanna do is lay down on a bed writhing in psychedelic bliss, but it's a pretty versatile substance.

I think I'm gonna take 5.5 mg of this tomorrow and hopefully just lay down in front of a subwoofer during the peak %) no shame lol
 
How much cross-tolerance does this seem to share with other psychedelics by the way? While all 5HT2A agonists share cross-tolerance, some seem to be worse offenders than others, and some get away with little tolerance from other drugs.

I'm wondering because 2 weeks ago today I consumed 40mg of 3C-P, then 4 days later I consumed 6-APB + aMT, that weekend I then tried 2C-T-2, and finally last Tuesday I consumed aMT + 2C-E + 2C-P + 5-MeO-DALT. A real busy two weeks, considering I normally trip around once a month. It's been a long time since I've tripped this much in such a short space of time - I'd like to try this substance as soon as possible, but I also want to avoid there being any tolerance left over that ruins my trip.
 
I find the effects of doc to not be very prone to a psychedelic tolerance.

I think 4mg should treat you pretty well, might not be mindblowing or super visual but it will definitely get you to the "WOW!!..IT WAS LIKE BEING TOTALLY IMMERSED IN PSYCHEDELIA,AND THE HEADSPACE ON THIS SHIT IS JUST ..WHOA!...IN TOTAL DARKNESS IT WAS LIKE LITERALLY WALKING THRU COLORS/FRACTALS,AND THE BODY HIGH OMG..THE TOTAL BLISS" level hahah I laughed out loud when I read this because I had a very similar reaction from my first try of 3mg.
 
Jesusgreen said:
Does smoking weed on this take it up a notch like with most psychedelics? I'd assume so, just checking. I'm hoping to dose it some time in the next few days, but I only have 4mg, and I'm looking for a very strong experience without muddying my first trip on DOC with another psychedelic - so I thought a little ganja might go a long way. :)

Regarding the stimulation - is this one of the ones that's uncomfortable to sit down on and it's better to be active and doing things? I'd like to know so I can plan the best place for my trip - whether somewhere where I'm up and active, or a relaxing night in at home.
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Oh my god, smoking weed while near peak on DOC has provided me with some of the most intense, mindblowing OEVs I've ever had. I was staring at a tree, watching faces shift and change in the bark, when BAM suddenly the tree was made out of tiny interlocking tree frogs. Then I looked down and all the grass below me was made of tree frogs. I'm not sure if the tree frog is meant to be my spirit animal or something because that visual has started to bleed into other trips, even on other substances. A little bit of ganj will go a LONG way.

I like to both relax and walk about on it... because it lasts so long, you have time to do a lot of things. I don't find the stimulation uncomfortable until the tail end of the trip when I'm attempting sleep. Sitting is very pleasant on it otherwise.
 
Jesusgreen said:
How much cross-tolerance does this seem to share with other psychedelics by the way? While all 5HT2A agonists share cross-tolerance, some seem to be worse offenders than others, and some get away with little tolerance from other drugs.

I'm wondering because 2 weeks ago today I consumed 40mg of 3C-P, then 4 days later I consumed 6-APB + aMT, that weekend I then tried 2C-T-2, and finally last Tuesday I consumed aMT + 2C-E + 2C-P + 5-MeO-DALT. A real busy two weeks, considering I normally trip around once a month. It's been a long time since I've tripped this much in such a short space of time - I'd like to try this substance as soon as possible, but I also want to avoid there being any tolerance left over that ruins my trip.
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It sounds like you really need to take a break before giving DOC a go, IMO. I don't think you want to ruin what is essentially one of the best psychedelic trips you can have by being impatient. That's a lot of psychedelic usage you've got crammed in a short space of time and almost all of them are phenethylamines which are definitely going to cause marked cross tolerance with DOC.
 
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I find the effects of doc to not be very prone to a psychedelic tolerance.

I think 4mg should treat you pretty well, might not be mindblowing or super visual but it will definitely get you to the "WOW!!..IT WAS LIKE BEING TOTALLY IMMERSED IN PSYCHEDELIA,AND THE HEADSPACE ON THIS SHIT IS JUST ..WHOA!...IN TOTAL DARKNESS IT WAS LIKE LITERALLY WALKING THRU COLORS/FRACTALS,AND THE BODY HIGH OMG..THE TOTAL BLISS" level hahah I laughed out loud when I read this because I had a very similar reaction from my first try of 3mg.
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I appreciate u quoting me.honestly this is exactly how it is....another thing to add on my 2nd day on this substance near the wayy tail end,I was in the dark.Now this is when most of the visuals died down..So i thought.In the dark it was like i was seeing total darkness,then it would glow then dark again then glow..as if my pupils were dialating and contracting.really cool really.

But its really like ur waling thru visuals and "something" else which I can only describe as 'psychedelia'.u are awash in psychedelia.
 
my pupils contract and dilate for pretty much 18 hours after i do DOC, and sometimes when I look in the mirror I can see that one gets bigger while the other shrinks and vice versa.

I wanna get to the DOC dreamstate next time i trip.
 
DOC is definitely next on my list to try. Can anyone give me some comparison to 2c-c? Obviously, i don't expect it to be as clear-headed, or short in duration, but visually, body load, and head-space wise, are they similar at all?
 
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