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The Big & Dandy DOC Thread (Part 2)

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I smoked some bud about 4 1/2 hours in to a DOC trip and it totally threw me for a loop. Everything to that point was clear and content and then as soon as I smoked I was suddenly confused and could hardly talk, or think for that matter. Just be prepared for it, pot tends to really hit hard with DOC, IME.
 
Also, has anyone ever experienced creating their own visuals with this substance? I've noticed I can look at a blank wall, think about a star, and suddenly stars are exploding all over it. Then quickly think about seeing an eagle or something (lol) and all the sudden stars are replaced with eagles. I'm not sure of this dose because this DOC is on blotter.
 
I smoked some bud about 4 1/2 hours in to a DOC trip and it totally threw me for a loop. Everything to that point was clear and content and then as soon as I smoked I was suddenly confused and could hardly talk, or think for that matter. Just be prepared for it, pot tends to really hit hard with DOC, IME.

Definitely, it also makes the visuals much more intense imo. The synergy is crazy.
 
Weed and DOC is a wonderful thing. I'll start smoking it about an hour after dosing. But, the DOC tends to really mess with my stomach, so some mary is a must. I'm also a daily smoker. I need to try some Imodium ad next time I try DOC, it gives me the shits almost to the point that 5-meo-dipt did. The first couple times in the bathroom are ok. But by the 6th, it starts wearing on you.
 
No, for me at least the synergy is much stronger than with weed + other psychedelics.
 
DOC is currently my DOC. its just incredible. and recently ive had the chance to try a combo with it (DOC + 2c-c + 4-ho-met).

usually im not brave with these things, but such was the mood... my doses of DOC are quite low, as im still in the learning phase with it.

dosed ~2.5mg DOC. the trip started somewhat belated due to my eating habits, but at t+3h it had settled into something where i felt comfortable being. the set and setting were a small house party with friends. music soudned great, communication was excellent, fun was had and intoxication was not easily discernable to the untrained eye.

dosed ~12mg 4-ho-met (worthy to mention it might have been somewhat degraded due to age) along with ~20mg 2c-c (a low dose even for me). all doses were low as to prevent shit from hitting the proverbial fan. all doses oral, at t+5h from dosing DOC.
comeup felt like 1h, but when it finally hit... it was excellent. it was as if i had entered a trip all over again, rediscovering what it was all about. music was fantastic, though visually it lacked a bit (but lately ive been having really low visuals from every/any chemical). body load was reminiscent of mdma, even candyflipping at times, though not at the same level (i wasnt aiming too high).

it felt wholesome. it felt right. not spiritual, not too fake or plastic, not mechanical or forced. it felt like i had set my mind free.

trip ended at t+11h from dosing the DOC, ending naturally, followed by a somewhat relaxed sleep (with aid from magnesium, melatonin and some passionflower extract; no benzos)

next day felt no hangover, just tired form the lack of sleep and busy previous days. no lasting visual chances, but an overall increased appreciation of music.

i wouldnt recommend the combo for beginners. however, it speaks a lot about the potential DOC has for such explorations.

edit: trip report at: http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/threads/...ime-relaxing-the-mind?p=10997685#post10997685
 
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alright i have some DOC and am planning on doing liquid measurement it will be 100mg/100ml so 1ml is 1mg, easy business.
Heres the question: Will 70% Absinthe be fine for this and how long will it be stable for ?? i was hoping it would out live me so it can sit in a box for the rest of its life with a little 2ce(hcl) and 4 aco dmt (f) for company
 
DOC is a fucking gem. God what a difference from DOI never had DOM or DOB aka STP but always wondered how DOM and DOB compared to DOC. Infact can someone list all known DOx compounds please also how does
DOB compare to DOC? Truly big and dandy.. DOC!!
 
Infact can someone list all known DOx compounds please

just for shits and giggles i'm gonna do this from memory

DOC - 4-chloro
DOI - 4-iodo
DOB - 4-bromo (this one's been schedule 1/illegal for awhile.... i think since 2C-B was scheduled probably)
DOF - 4-fluoro
DOM - 4-methyl (this one's been schedule 1 since like the 70s, was sold called "STP acid" on the streets in ridiculously big doses, lots of ER visits...)
DOEt - 4-ethyl
DOPr - 4-propyl
DOEF - 4-fluoroethyl (this one's probably a gem, hasn't been around much tho)
DOT/Aleph-1 - 4-methylthio
DOT-2/Aleph-2 - 4-ethylthio
DOT-4/Aleph-4 - 4-isopropylthio
DOT-7/Aleph-7 - 4-(n)propylthio

shulgin started focusing on the 2C's more when he figured out that the 2C-T's produced more predictable results than the DOT's.

of these, i've only tried DOI and DOC. i prefer DOI, but then i like putting my body through hell once in awhile =p DOC is definitely way smoother.
 
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Every 2C has an amphetamine homologue, listing every possible permutation would be a pointless chore. There's also the N-OH analogues (HOx's) which are likely to be of similar activity, the psi-DOx's...
 
Has anyone eyeballed this? My friend gave me a bomb of this and to be honest I don't think he has scales. Wondering how forgiving this stuff is?
 
i had a buddy that claimed he was really good at eyeballing doses. did it for years. ended up going to the ER after eyeballing some DOC. had a psychotic break. cops had to wrestle him down i think.

then for some dumb reason after he went to the ER his sister's boyfriend decided to find his baggie of DOC and snort some himself. he went to the ER too.

tdw -- share more about your story if you read this =p
 
SpecialK, I've worked with the powder and there is NO WAY it can be safely eyeballed. Your friend needs to use liquid dosing. Honestly, DOC is active at tiny doses, and it's a long lived, vasoconstricting, generally unforgiving compound. You must know that the only response that is in the spirit of harm reduction is "don't take it".
 
Thank you nightwatch for listing the DOx compounds never knew there were so many. I think DOB is STP from the 70s scheduling not DOM. How could you possibly prefer DOI over DOC?? You actually like a nausea body load? As for eyeballing DOC don't do it obviously eyeballing something that is active at 1mg is stupid use liquid measurement as stated above. Be safe and happy trippin best RC ever. At 12mg my 36hr trip was Devine and profound. I even had an afterglow and discontinued the use of psychedelics for a few years after it. What a fucking diamond in the ruff. I also recommend 4hodipt very close to psilocybin. Peace
 
No, STP is DOM. There's a huge number potential (and actual) DOxs, have a read through pihkal, there's all sorts of things you could hang off that 4- position (DOSE, anyone? almost worth making just for the acronym).
 
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