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The Big & Dandy DOC Thread (Part 2)

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Some of the best DOC on the market from a very well known supplier was pink. I'm sure there was some small impurity but that is going to apply to any drug on the market, especially on the gray market. I don't think discolorations are any indicator of significant/meaningful impurity.
 
Yeah, I agree, but pure DOC HCl is white, any sample that isn't white contains something else. There may well be coloured DOC available that is much better than some white samples, my point was a pretty academic one, colour isn't a reliable indicator of purity.
 
I wish it was possible to try enantiopure DOC. If there was less muscle tension for me it would probably be a near equal to LSD.
 
I have heard good things about DOC and I just got some for free so I am going to try this over the labor day weekend next week.

I assume I can disolve the powder in vodka to make a liquid for precise dosing. Is 2mg a good dose for a first time DOC tripper with 15 years of experience with other psyches?
 
I never found DOC HCl white from any supplier yet, the first one was pink and the other was yellow and more granular. I can't test the purity in a lab, i can just say both were very active and didn't give me any problem, so i hope the % of purity was high.

Synaptic Gap said:
I have heard good things about DOC and I just got some for free so I am going to try this over the labor day weekend next week.

I assume I can disolve the powder in vodka to make a liquid for precise dosing. Is 2mg a good dose for a first time DOC tripper with 15 years of experience with other psyches?
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I never tried 2mg dose but i guess it would be a low/normal +3 on shulgin scale; i've tried 3 times DOC, first time at 3.5mg, second time at 4.5mg and last one again at 3.5mg.
All my experiences with it were strong +3 trips that lasted good 20 hours with a peak of nearly 10 hours. Be prepared for a long ride, one time i took Alprazolam to stop it but didn't change much, the trip was still going strong.
Anyway it's a great substance, i think you will enjoy it ;)
 
Synaptic Gap said:
I have heard good things about DOC and I just got some for free so I am going to try this over the labor day weekend next week.

I assume I can disolve the powder in vodka to make a liquid for precise dosing. Is 2mg a good dose for a first time DOC tripper with 15 years of experience with other psyches?
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Well ive pushed doc upto 4mg and it was quite weak visually so idk, but i had great headspace and a lazy mdma kind of high for 24hours.

start with 2mg after an allergy test of around 500mics but dont expect to much visuals from it, a great body high though :)
 
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Idk, I have tried DOC 3 times, twice at 2.5mg and once at 3mg, and it's been pretty visual. 2mg's should be a good starting dose though.

I agree with you JBrandon, the muscle tension is really the only negative side effect I've experienced.
 
I just took my first taste of DOC over the weekend. 2.5mg. Visuals were present, but not overwhelming. Just a +2 borderline +3. It seemed to give me the munchies, and I was able to get a couple hours sleep about 9 hours into it. I woke up still tripping, but in a good way. The whole experience felt good and healing. The headspace was marvelous. Can't wait to up the dose some. Maybe 3.5mg next time.

Synaptic, I mixed a solution of 1mg DOC per 1ml vodka. Worked like a charm, and should keep anything organic from growing in my DOC.
 
So I might be better off with 3mg if I really want to experience it. I will probably do .5 like spacemonkey recommended and then if no problems within a few hours I will drop another 2.5 - 3. It is always good to be careful with a new substance.

Redbong, that is exactly the concentration I was planning to make my solution. Thank you for confirming it will work well.
 
DOC is honestly the best psychedelic compound I've ever had extensive experience with and I miss it dearly. I was supposed to have a gram coming to me, but with somewhat recent events taking place, that never happened.
 
thanks to all who responded on the color issue. one other question on doc at the moment, is there a test using the reagents available for mdma testing? i'm thinking no since doc is used in such small weights but thought i'd ask.
 
Marquis reagent should go green with any DOx or 2C-x (other than the 2C-T-x's) if my memory serves me correctly, I don't think the commercially available reagent tests will be sufficient to differentiate DOC from other closely related compounds but it's not my area of expertise so I could be wrong.
 
tried this for the second time last weekend, at an unknown dose (based on my first experience, id say it was about 1.7mg). I spent most of the day jittery, mentally and physically exhausted, and for the first 4 hours, nauseous.

I dont know why people enjoy this chem. it burns out your body and mind very quickly, and its long duration means that you wont have any rest for >18hrs
 
^do you ever preload your body with vitamins and stuff before a trip? that might make it a lot smoother.

I don't really get any nausea, I get slight muscle tension mainly in my diaphragm region but it's never too uncomfortable, no jitters, awesome visuals that can turn into somewhat of a lucid dream experience at the peak, and probably the best body high I've ever had.

Next time I do it i'm gonna chill in my friends blacklit basement with a huge PA system and subs.


also, maybe you just didn't dose high enough, I have a feeling that when you just get a tiny bit of the body high it's not as great because it doesn't get to the point of fully enveloping you.

the main reason I'm saying this is because a friend who had tried this drug once before decided to do 4.5mg with a friend who never tripped before at an aquarium.

I warned them thoroughly that 4.5mg may be a lot for someone who has never taken a psychedelic before, but afterwards he claimed it was a 'purely positive substance.'

who wouldn't like a purely positive substance?
 
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Yeah, I agree, but pure DOC HCl is white, any sample that isn't white contains something else. There may well be coloured DOC available that is much better than some white samples, my point was a pretty academic one, colour isn't a reliable indicator of purity.
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or to put it differently, just cause your Pepsi is brown doesn't mean there's not shit in it.
 
Trying this for the first time this weekend. Me and a friend are gonna dose 3mg each. Got some nitrous, glow sticks, gallon of gatorade, sandwiches, cigs, weed, clean change of clothes, some playlists and a full 24 hours set aside, Should be a hell of a night.

What do people think of having a walk on this. I wanna go for a nice walk through the corn fields at night. Just a light walk around and explore a bit but does physical activity make you feel fatiuged quickly or like you are stressing your body?
 
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What do people think of having a walk on this. I wanna go for a nice walk through the corn fields at night. Just a light walk around and explore a bit but does physical activity make you feel fatiuged quickly or like you are stressing your body?
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physically, walks feel okay. mentally, you might rather just feel like laying on the couch though. :) i usually am up for walks, but my companions usually aren't. i hope it goes well for ya :D
 
supersmoker27 said:
Trying this for the first time this weekend. Me and a friend are gonna dose 3mg each. Got some nitrous, glow sticks, gallon of gatorade, sandwiches, cigs, weed, clean change of clothes, some playlists and a full 24 hours set aside, Should be a hell of a night.

What do people think of having a walk on this. I wanna go for a nice walk through the corn fields at night. Just a light walk around and explore a bit but does physical activity make you feel fatiuged quickly or like you are stressing your body?
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You should be just fine walking around. Walking through the corn fields at night on DOC sounds like a splendid idea.
 
Thanks for the responses.

I had a blast on DOC, probably my favorite psychedellic to date. Tranquil, Content, Extremely intense, and really kind of clear headspace. I can really see what people mean about a two stage trip. The first part I was just engulfed with the visuals and psychedellic mind set (though still a oddly clear headspace). The second part was just a awasome amped up and awasome, can really see the amphetamine aspect of the drug during the second phase. We glowsticked and talked and went for a couple small walks. It was great, I could never dance on MDMA cause im just to floored but I was dancin like a boss last night. There was a bit of uncomfortable stimulation but nothing overwhelming.

I also felt extremely in touch with my emotions. They were not emotions created by the drug but my own emotions that manifested themselves(another Bluelighters words).

Also did anyone Power trip really hard? I felt like I was massivly ego trippin for a while, the drug had this effect on my friend also.
Mabye because me and my friend took .5mg xanax halfway through the trip and the benzo cockiness was just amplified by being so in tune with my emotions. We were also deffinatlely feeding eachothers ego also.
Im really curious about the power trip aspect, It got so strong almost felt crazy for a bit. I all ready have a very good self image but this was another level. I loved it.

I also wrote a trip report but its kinda long, Ill try to clean it up a bit later.

One last thing. I felt absolutley no connection to earth, which I usually feel even a bit with most psychedellics, I didnt mind one bit though. And it also didnt feel as harshly cold or synthetic as 2C-I or 2C-P.
http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/threads/...First-time-quot-An-amazing-day-and-night-quot

And 49 hours later and im still getting a residual tweak. As I can see in the way my posts are typed lol.
I cant stop adding to this. Also if you wanna trip yourself out while on DOC, put all your focus in one point and try to explain whats not real about it. YOU WONT BE ABLE TO!!! its a mindfuck, I told my friend to do it and he couldnt either.
 
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