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The Big & Dandy DOC Thread (Part 2)

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recently i finally decided to test out DOC. i had some laying about for over a year, but didnt have the time to invest in proper testing it.
i went overboard with carefulness and weighted around 10mg (probably though more like 8 mg) which i then dissolved in 3ml of water (so 3,33mg/ml) and then i dosed about 0.3ml, then 0.2ml 2 hours later (so in theory about 1,6mg, but it was probably more in the neighborhood of 1mg at most). i got threshold effects, visually just some sparkling, color intensification... but what a pleasant experience it was nontheless!
the duration was the big plus here. all in all it lasted ~14h including the 3h comeup, wasnt especially stimulating, but my mood was way up, i felt refreshed the whole day, clear minded but somewhat more open, more sociable.... i would love doing this at a festival (which im already planning to do)... the duration allowed a lot of mundane activities to be done in this state which made the whole weekend great. from shopping to watching movies, to going out to party or getting sexy with my girl, it all seemed like an intensely relaxing day in the middle of a month long holiday.

i would do this again, even if only at this level (+1 most of the time, maybe +2 for a very short while). but im very curious as to how this performs at higher levels.
 
sekio said:
We don't discuss drug testing here.

DOx drugs are not a stimulant in the same manner that amphetamine is, even though it shares the same structural backbone. (ref)
Stimulatory effects are a consequence of adrenergic receptor stimulation, & stimulation of central 5-HT2 receptors, rather than dopamine/norepinephrine release.
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I'm not sure this is entirely correct. Do we actually know the metabolites of DOC in urine or blood? I am pretty sure any non-metabolized DOC would test positive for amphetamine, I'm willing to bet the metabolites would as well.

The field tests are very very generalized and non-specific, you would probably need GC/MS to prove that it wasn't regular amphetamine or meth.

I'm also not entirely sure that this family operates solely as agonists and lack any of the standard amphetamine transmitter-releasing / uptake-inhibiting properties. I would have to see a paper or two regarding this before I would be convinced.
 
I was able to take DOC for the first time in about 3 years last weekend.

5mg dosed before going to the beach all day. Had a blast. Played volleyball with some girls my friends and I met. Interacting wasn't too hard.

Had awesome visuals all day. Very euphoric. Was expecting a bit more, it was a pretty mild trip overall.

So glad to have found this one again.
 
So i did another trial with doc again, this time at a all weekend rave with a friend.

We both does about 10pm which obviousy was way to late for us, even with its amp structure and long duration doc is really non stimulating and both of us had a hard time keeping any mood or energy up.

Abouot 5hours after dosing we just gave up ad went to sleep in my friends car,woke up about 4hours later feeling ok and went home.


just before we felt aslepp the trip actually started to get somewhat visual and interesting, but still i will never dose this one this late again.

Doc is def a day time drug for me at leasr, the whole day after was quite fun with alot of hashsmoking and some ketamine bumps every now and then..

EDit: Any idea what could be safe to combine with doc to get a little more energy? ive heard mdma could be quite dangerous so i will avoid all stim drugs with this (not much of a stimmer anyway)

Im thinking about adding another trip on it though? did 2/3 of a shiva a few hours in the first time i did doc and that experience was alot richer than this one.

So maybe some 4homet or 25i a few hours in could be nice?

Maybe i just need to dose higher idk but i did try 4mg both times and it was alright for sure but to mellow for nighttimes..
 
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I try snorting drops of DOC, its powerfull, you can feel it after 5 or 10 minutes. i think it does not shorten the trip. 2.5mg seems to be a good dosage, a friend try at 7mg (with high psychedelic tolerance) and had a good trip.
Now i dont have any good scale, so please, IF SOMEONE CAN GIVE ME THE DENSITY of DOC, it will help me a lot. i just find molecular weight, and the pikhal entry, but i dont know if i can calculate density with this informations. please help =)
 
Wayab there is one report of a guy snorting DOC on another forum and he actually did like it but I wouldn't recommend it because it might be pretty dangerous, especially when working with such a potent substance.

when I vaporized 25i there was only 1 other report of someone doing it and I had the most intensely visual trip of my life but totally unexpected.

The long come up from the oral ROA is very worth it in my opinion. It's like a slow and steady ride into psychedelic bliss!
 
maybe no =D it must be a little more
but in 250ml its very little difference, maybe in 2,5ml you can mesure it.
 
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You don't need to know the density. You just make up the solution to 250ml with the DOC so that every ml has 1 mg of drug in it.
 
^ that's exactly right. It's called volumetric measuring.

and as stated by the guy two comments above me by adding the 25mg you're adding to the weight of the solution not the ml.

then mix and enjoy
 
DOC is stable, they'll keep for a lifetime, let alone a couple of days. I doubt you need to worry about transdermal absorption.
 
thank you guess it was a placebo affect i got . thinking now as its its a stormy day with lighting expected this could be a good day to drop one to try :)

just taken half a tab as a sort of alargy test sorry couldnt spell that lol . so around 0.85mg should be just enuff to tell what im in for then once i get the feel i will test the rest of it

took the other half as well about an hour ago starting to feel like im being given little electric shocks lol

well it isnt doc its a nbome the guy was flogging 25i to so guess thats what i got time to kill this as its very boring now
 
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