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The Big & Dandy DOC Thread (Part 1)

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It can help mellow you out/calm things down, yes. Its not going to terminate the trip, though.
 
It will effectively terminate the trip if you take enough to knock yourself out (sometimes the best option). But, usually if you need it THAT bad then somebody has to adminster to you, because you've become delusional/aggressive/violent.
 
I've had some DOC laying around for about a year now. The only reason me and my girlfriend haven't had it yet is cos of the duration. We've also had some pretty good quallity blotter available lately so we've been indulging in that a fair bit instead.

Basically, we want to be able to sleep on the night of taking it. Maybe a few people could answer this question for me:-

If we dosed early (8am) in the morning on an empty stomach, like say 2.5mg? Would we be able to sleep that night (at like midnight) with the assistance of benzo's maybe?

Sorry if a similar question has already been asked. I UTSE but couldnt come up with anything really. Cheres :)
 
I've never taken it (same boat as you, I have access to good L so whenever I take a long thing its that), but from what I gather some people find sleep attainable by 12-14 hours and sometimes others find it impossible until like 24 hours. It varies I guess.

Benzos will surely help but I notice they really hinder the integration the next day though, so its an exchange.
 
fizzacyst said:
It can help mellow you out/calm things down, yes. Its not going to terminate the trip, though.
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Thats kinda what i was looking for...if things start to get a little hectic i can chill it out...i plan on injesting 3.5-4mg tommorow and i havent experimented with this chem but i did enjoy DOB.
 
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I can fall asleep after maybe 10-12 hours of DOC...some people can't for 24+ ... Gaian Planes is exactly right.

As for DOC+MDMA.... I'll admit I probably had a mg or two of clonazepam in me and it was still a very intense peak. But I was also watching my favorite band at a sick festival. Set+Setting+good drugs indeed!
 
BD, that sounds like a good combination. I think I might try 1-2mg alongside some LSD sometime.

do you suggest dosing the DOC before the LSD?
 
re: hospitalization
You have to be careful with the DOxs as some people react much differently than others, and to different doses. I highballed a dose of DOB and then mismeasured which nearly left me in the hospital and dramatically cut down on all subsequent psychedelic use, and I've seen all means and manners of crazy erratic behaviour resulting from doses of 3mg+ with DOI (paranoid delusions, people attacking hospital staff, that sort of thing). Be careful and if you're new I'd recommend starting around 1.5mg with all the halogenated DOxs.
 
Great advice, Nuke. There do seem to be a small but substantial portion of people that get absolutely twisted and possibly delusional on doses that myself and most people I know of who have experienced -- well, in my case just DOI and DOC, of which I love DOC and find DOI boring and bothersome in its duration..

Although I doubt DOC in modest doses is going to cause a seriously life threatening situation even in people who react badly. Unfortunately if people "go the wrong way" on this one it's going to be a long ride. DOC certainly doesn't cause nearly as much vasoconstiction in me as DOI seemed to, and DOB from what I hear is by far the worst in this regard.

DOC feels about as rough on my body as a light dose of clean amphetamine, I believe a solid dose of Xanax could mitigate almost any problem.

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BD, that sounds like a good combination. I think I might try 1-2mg alongside some LSD sometime.

do you suggest dosing the DOC before the LSD?
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Well I've done LSD with DOC twice... the 1st time it was LSD > DOC right when the LSD was done peaking. The 2nd time was DOC , sleep, waking up still tripping at a ++ and taking lots of LSD.

Truth be told I've never mixed them on their peaks.. and I'm not sure I'd want to. But now that you mentioned it, please let me know how it goes :)
 
The one time I took DOC, 2mgs, I was unable to sleep for TWO consecutive nights, and even after waking up after the third night (and first night of sleep) I definitely felt the unimistakeable nootropic signature of a tail end DOC trip.

I'm not a pharmacologist but I think there's got to be an enzymatic difference in some people that makes it a lot toughter to clear this chem from the body. My girlfriend was sleeping like a baby at hour 14 while I was fully dilated, stimulated, diarhea, +3 tripping. Also, I have no trouble getting to sleep after acid or MDMA at a normal time--I can slip into sleep while coming down from a roll or acid by taking deep breaths and entering that dream state. On DOC though, even by night two, I was just way too stimulated.

My advice is, if you haven't experimented with DOC, make sure you have three full days to recover. I had to call in sick for work, at a job I could handle on acid, no sweat. The insane head I had on DOC would NOT have allowed me to function in society, though, at all. I was bonkers.
 
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Truth be told I've never mixed them on their peaks.. and I'm not sure I'd want to. But now that you mentioned it, please let me know how it goes :)
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OH, OK, I thought this is what you were saying...I figured DOC would mirror some of the properties of MDMA (at least to a certain extent) and provide a candyflipping type experience (very heavy psychedelic trip obviously).

I might do this for the equinox. It will be my first time trying DOC, so I think I will dose 1mg and then let it take effect and then drop the acid to time the peak of that to hit when my favorite DJs go on.
 
I would imagine 1mg of DOC would add not much more to an LSD experience but extra peripheral stimulation ... but can't wait to hear how it goes :)
 
i'm hoping it adds a warm phenethylamine glow to the LSD trip. you know what I'm talking about, like the warm head fuzz facial flush phen thing?
 
I took 1 DOC blotter, said to be 2.5mg by the guy who laid it, at the tail end of an LSD experience. It was more of a continued spinnnnnnnnnnnnn than a trip but it was nice, wandered around Times Square and ogled people ...
 
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