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The Big & Dandy Diphenhydramine Thread

Be careful man, if you're building a tolerance to DPH you should be:

a) Worried about hepatoxicity, if you're using deliriant doses frequently enough to build tolerance, you're using frequently enough to hurt your liver!

b) Worried about acute cardiotoxicity caused by consuming large amounts at once.*

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QT interval prolongation in diphenhydramine toxicity
Abstract
Diphenhydramine overdose in one of the frequent reported causes of acute poisoning. Patients with diphenhydramine overdose can present with central nervous system manifestations, anticholinergic manifestations and cardiovascular symptoms. The cardiovascular symptoms of diphenhydramine overdose include myocardial depression and refractory hypotension. Massive ingestions have been reported to cause myocardial depressant effect with widening of QRS complex and prolonged QT interval on electrocardiogram. We report an adolescent male with moderate diphenhydramine ingestion, who was found unresponsive with seizure like activity. Electrocardiogram on presentation showed wide complex tachycardia with right bundle branch block pattern and QT interval prolongation. These changes reverted to normal with treatment. Diphenhydramine overdose may occasionally result in prolongation of QT interval.
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My recommendation: Take a tolerance break. If you must use deliriants, please wait at least a month between fever-dreams (I'm not gonna call it a trip).
 
i hate bendaryl all it does is make me pass out. stupid ppl i kno who do heroin and pills all the time take benadryl with it cause they say it makes them nod more.
 
I know a very intelligent person who was/is addicted to diphenhydramine despite having access to plenty of other superior (in most peoples eyes, including mine) psychedelics. Some rare people seem to genuinely enjoy it. I can't help but wonder the likelihood of much different brain chemistry/drug processing than the vast majority regarding that. The only thing that is enjoyable in any way in diph to me and others I've talked to is the enhancement of music - to the point where it is actually more enjoyable/better appreciated than most substances I have taken. Still the shitty effects overshadow it by far.
 
Cloudburst said:
I know a very intelligent person who was/is addicted to diphenhydramine despite having access to plenty of other superior (in most peoples eyes, including mine) psychedelics. Some rare people seem to genuinely enjoy it. I can't help but wonder the likelihood of much different brain chemistry/drug processing than the vast majority regarding that. The only thing that is enjoyable in any way in diph to me and others I've talked to is the enhancement of music - to the point where it is actually more enjoyable/better appreciated than most substances I have taken. Still the shitty effects overshadow it by far.
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I enjoy the "trip" from DPH very much.

It just feels so bad for my body and brain though I will probably never use it again.
 
Dimenhydriate and Diphenhydramine trip?

Is dimenhydrinate supposed to make you tired like diphenhydramine?

i cant decide which i want to trip on, i find swallowing diphenhydramine easier and id perfer it but i just dont want to pass out while triping?

:)
 
While I don't think this is BL material, "tripping" is generally handled in the Psychedelic Drugs forum, so I'm going to toss this over there. Mods, feel free to do what you will/close if you'd like, etc.

BDD --> PD
 
Dimenhydrinate is just diphenhydramine compounded together with a stimulant to make it non-drowsy.

I still recommend not taking any delerients to get high.
 
That's not "tripping"

That's some sort of psychotic delirious state. If I made a deliriant topic I'd start it in Other Drugs.

To answer the OP's question - yes those two chemicals have very similar effects, but no the dimenhydrinate won't be as sedating as the diph, just watch the dosages. May I ask what you find enjoyable about overdosing on these though? If OTC drugs are your route, have you ever heard of dextromethorphan (DXM)? Now there's something more comparable to real tripping.
 
Well Dimenhydrinate is the 8-chlorotheophyllinate salt of diphenhydramine, so it would be pretty similar if not basically identical, dimenhydrinate has about half the sedative potential of diphenhydramine so i'de assume this would theoretically make you less drowsy. I don't have a lot of info to offer when it comes to higher doses of dramamine or benadryl as i generally only use it as a opiate potentiator or to sleep, so i don't dabble with anything over 125mg dph or 200mg dimenhydrinate. may i ask though, why is this categorized under opiates?
 
The usage of the term "trip" in your title is optimistic :). Remember these drugs are classified as deleriants and be sure that is what you are looking for.

The dimenhydrinate salt dissociates into diphenhydramine and a stimulant which I don't remember the name of. Dimenhydrinate is roughly half as potent by mass as diphenhydramine (as half it' mass is the stimulant) and will last longer as it needs to separate before becoming active. I suppose the large amounts of the stimulant will effect the trip as well.

As this is a psychedelic question I'll send it over to Psychedelic Discussion for you but will mention that dextromethorphan is generally considered a much better choice as a psychoactive drug (dissociative) with generally the same OTC availability.

OD >>> PD

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Completely missed the post between ours. That's the stims name and as this was filed under opiates if you are somehow asking about using these to potentiate feel free to mention so and a mod will move it back to OD.
 
The usage of the term "trip" in your title is optimistic . Remember these drugs are classified as deleriants and be sure that is what you are looking for.
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They will both make you tired, yes. And the "trip" off that class of drugs is nothing like an actual psychedelic trip, don't let anybody tell you differently :)
 
Yes, psychedelics and deliriants differ from each other and it's not just a mere interesting fact... everyone considering trying a deliriant should do well to find out exactly what is different about it and what kind of things can happen.
There is a significant lack of control or having more difficulty to tell what is real and what not, whereas psychedelics do warp things but not comparably so.

This is our thread for diphenhydramine:
http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/showthread.php?t=160404
 
ew both disgusting deleriants.

i dosed 250mgs of diphenhydramine and smoked some cannabis and i had such dirty distortion and a panic attack. made me wanna go fucking crazy for an hour like i just had the thought of smashing windows in. it was weird:P.. NEVER AGAIN will i try that shit drug.
 
Can you "trip" taking staggered doses of Benadryl. Say 300 then 2 hours later take another 300. Do you need to take it all at once.

I could see someone being worried that with staggered doses you might not get the effects "trip" you were looking for, while taking dangerous levels of DPH

Wouldn't it be safer to take say 500mg all at once instead of baby stepping. I could see someone getting up to the 900mg taking 300mg doses every two hours and still not feel it. Like if you eat a gram of mushrooms wait an hour then take another 1/2 eighth, you wont trip as hard as you would have if you just ate 1/2 eight to begin with. Sort of the instant tolerance.
 
Once on DPH I kept falling asleep and drifting into another situation, only to be awoken abruptly jolting up and gasping for air like it was my last breath. happened for over an hour over and over and over again

never again
 
CannabisCanuck said:
I used to do Diphs for a while on doeses like 450 to 550 mg, 19-21 25 mg pills roughly, and i can tell you that it does leave behind a noticable hppd, like little flashes of light in my perifs or on the walls and floaters in your eye, static on the walls, the list goes on and on...and on.... bottom line is dont do it cause someday your gonna say god dam blobs of light gtfo of my vision and they arent ever gonna leave
I was stupid so now you dont have to be :)
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It's like taking a trip to hell...

No its like hell hijacking your mind and taking over your reality, not you going there it comes at you.

I've had some truly terrifying experiences on DPH, many times I remember just being absolutely frozen with crippling terror and fear at what I was seeing.

That being said, I am glad I did it.

I don't see much reason to go back, but my DPH phase really thought me alot about myself and about the nature of fear.

Also makes you appreciate that we live in such a nice world and not in some type of dimension that is like a bug, spider, zombie infested torture chamber in hell.

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Hi, this is my first time posting, so bear with me. Im not sure if this is the right thread, but I had a hard time figuring this out... SWIM is tired of paying for heroin, and is searching for a pill/medicine that is readily available w/o a prescription that produces similar effects. Obviousely, SWIM knows that any easily purchased drug from a pharmacy wont have near the intensity as that of h, but was just wondering if anything, if taken in high enough doses, could produce a similar blanket of warmth and serenity. Thanks alot!
 
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