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The Big & Dandy Brain Zaps / Brain Shivers Thread

I had brain zaps when:
*I slept too much
*I was withdrawing of Tramadol
*I was eating 40mg clonazepam per day
*I tried for the first time 5g of l-tryptophan
 
Only time i've had these was with mephedrone, but then that's the onkly drug i've had enough off to abuse. are these zaps dangerous? they scare the shit out of me, i get them whenever i think about something and of course when trying to sleep. they go away after a good nights sleep though?
 
I recently took a high dose of buspar and i got the most terrible brainzaps ever... Not gonna repeat that one again:p
 
Triggered brain zaps after smoking dmt

A few hours ago I smoked some dmt. I didnt find my pipe so I had to be creative and smoke it from some aluminium foil. It wasn't the best method so I didn't really have a breakthrough. I did have some little brain zaps. It's a really strange sensating - I dont' experience it that much - but dmt always seem to trigger it. I hope there are other people with this experience?

Anyway I was suddenly looking at my red LED bike light that was pulsing (flash ----- flash------flash) when suddenly my brain shocks were getting heavier. So I took it and looked very closely at the red pulsing lights. I was really getting into some kind of trance and my brain was totally buzzing: pzzzzzzzrt pzzzzrt. I also noticed that the delay of flashing was getting bigger, I even had a moment of some seconds without noticing any light. I thought that was really fucked up :s. At one moment I had one really big brain zap when looking at the red light that my head really banged foreward... (crazy stuff).

I don't know if this shit is dangerous to fuck with but I'm really intrested in other people stories about this (if there are any)?
 
wierd actually im just about to smoke some dmt tonight, just waiting for the remainder of the naptha to evap.
whenever i smoke it i get this wierd tightness of the lungs and also its like there is a higher frequency going through my brain. like i hear almost a high pitched buzz which can sometimes make me jolt out.
i cant quitre understand if you meant it happened to u in a good way or bad way tho, i have more of a problem with not being able to breathe for a lil while, this is only when im on the verge of breaking through tho.
probably no help at all, thats what 25mg of nitrazepam will do to u i guess haha
 
Well it wasn'r really a good or bad feeling, but I was intrigued to say the least. If you get out of your trip and have some flashing bike light you should really try it, it's like getting in some sort of trance. (You shouldn't try it if your brain shocks are unpleasnt of course;))
 
I have experienced this.


Sometimes, when I smoke DMT in the dark and I'm starting to come down, I'll to stare at my neon green electric clock in a similar way that one stars at a mandala to enter a trance. Soon my entire visual field will dissolve to black (except for the green light), I experience the sounds you describe (not the usual DMT buzz), and I am subjected to an unknowable and unnameable fear that prevents me from looking too long and going too deep. Although, I am curious what I would experience if I kept gazing!


It's interesting you experience no fear during this.
 
Intriguing. I've never heard of a reaction like that. Do you regular take prescription antidepressants or have you used any MDMA-type drugs recently?

I've experienced what you speak of, but only as a side effect of SSRI withdrawal. Never from any of the serotonergic psychedelics, especially any with as benign a side-effect profile as smoked DMT is for me.
 
I never took any anti-depressants. I did take mdma a few times in my life but my last usage was more then 2 years ago. I don't really take any other drugs at the moment.

I had one period in my life were I used mdma 3 times in one week, and after that I would get those brain zaps as well for like a week after (maybe once every day). Those were of some other sort though (another frequency if that makes any sense), and those were also unpleasent, like my brain was reconfiguring after the heavy mdma abuse.
I won't compare them with the ones I had after smoking dmt.
 
I got these on mushrooms once. The mushrooms took about 2 and a half hours to kick in, I'd wrote the experience off and was trying to sleep when a huge brain zap jerked me upright and started me tripping quite heavily, every minute or so I'd get another and it would make me feel really dissociated and crap.

The worst ones have been after taking xanax and getting slight withdrawal symptoms (from taking it every 3 days for about a month, must be very susceptible to this stuff)

Everytime I got one, it was like I lost a second of time. If I was listening to music there was a slight glitch for the milliseconds of consciousness I seemed to lose when the zap happened.

Horrific.
 
^ Yeah, stop doing drugs and take plenty of vitamins. I only got them a few days after when I would take MDMA. Stopping completely and keeping healthy fixed it for me.
 
I've come across this phenomenon, it is the event directly preceding every instance of ego death I have ever experienced, and this is the only time I've ever experienced it. Very interesting.

Here's a past post (under "psoodonym" but still mine) where I describe it to Xorkoth unknowingly:http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/showpost....&postcount=118
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This is really interesting.

Two years ago I had a ++++ mushroom trip, the moment I was torn from my room to an endless sea of energy featured an incredibly strong head surge or zap. Two weeks later, it happened again with a very strong +++ trip. In fact, it happened every time I had a strong trip that year, after the ++++. What's more I started experiencing this effect while in bed at night and completely sober. It almost felt like the 'logos' was drawing me in, only I was completely sober and returned to normal right after the zap. This persisted often for about 6 months after my trip and occasionally for about a year or so.

I had a 7 month break from tripping about this time two years ago, when I started tripping again...no more zaps. A couple of months ago, I took a pretty hefty dose of mushrooms and experienced the zaps again, only this time they were a lot, lot weaker and occurred many times. When I tried LSD several weeks after this, I had to endure 3 hours of continuous electrical surges through my head, coupled with 5 way over sensitization, especially with smells and sounds. My acid trip was really good overall and had no hints of darkness, however for about 4 or so hours it was an extremely uncomfortable state to be in, mainly because of these surges.

I've heard of the zaps before with regards to SSRI withdrawal, I never really connected the two phenomena and just assumed they were entirely different things. Still not sure but the above quote made bells start to ring...

Sometimes, when I smoke DMT in the dark and I'm starting to come down, I'll to stare at my neon green electric clock in a similar way that one stars at a mandala to enter a trance. Soon my entire visual field will dissolve to black (except for the green light), I experience the sounds you describe (not the usual DMT buzz), and I am subjected to an unknowable and unnameable fear that prevents me from looking too long and going too deep. Although, I am curious what I would experience if I kept gazing!
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That sounds exactly like when it happened to me on mushrooms; that 'fear' and your vision going to black are exactly what I've felt. The first two time it led to an endless expanse of energy/logos/lifeforce whatever you'd call it. Since then I've either not been able to or not wanted to go there when I've had a 'zap'. It feels almost like my mind is reaching out to the higher plane of psychedelic energy and touching it, my mind starts resonating with the energy producing the zap. If my ego is dissolved/ destroyed sufficiently for it I then become one with that energy, if not then back to reality/the rest of the trip.

This thread has spawned an awful lot of ideas in my mind regarding many of my past trips. When I tripped on acid, early on in the trip I was laying on my bed staring a poster on my ceiling, the poster started to become 3D and my mind felt like it was being drawn towards it. I shouldn't say my mind, because that's not exactly correct - some part of me was being drawn towards it. This was accompanied by a buzz as I approached it, the buzz increased in intensity and then...I started being repelled from it. If I 'approached' again the same thing would happen, in exactly the same manner. I gave up on the poster and put on some psytrance, this was when the overwhelmingly intense sensual stimulation and continuous brain zaps described earlier in my post started to materialize. It really felt at the time, especially the poster attraction/repulsion thing, that I *should* have been going somewhere higher, but (probably because I only had 1 tab and thus my ego wasn't too shrunken) I simply could not.

It's very interesting to note that almost all the trip-related zaps described in this thread have been triggered by DMT based psychedelic; mushrooms, DMT and 5-MeO seem the main culprits. Is it just coincidence that these three (especially the last two) are perhaps the drugs that will send people to a ++++ state the easiest?

This is all just speculation on my part, plus I have no idea how all this would tie in with the serotonin system other than, as someone already suggested, DMT being a hydroxyl group short and two N-methyl groups ahead of serotonin. Am I right in thinking that the pharmacological differences between the two molecules receptor affinities will stem pretty much exclusively from the two methyl groups, rather than the OH group which will mostly just make the molecule more polar and thus more ready to permeate the bbb?

i meant a remedy to counter them during a trip.
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Doubt that one exists, at least not one which doesn't greatly dull the trip down at the same time. I would hazard a guess and say that whilst tripping the zaps result (probably indirectly) from 5-ht2a agonism and will thus be fairly as much a product of the trip as the more desirable changes in perception. Could be miles out though.


Cheers
 
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got them while falling asleep!

i wasn't tripping or anything i was just falling asleep and i got the zap twice, first time i felt the fear and didn't look, i kinda felt like it stopped to do what it was supposed to do.. but i just said lets try it again. and it came back! and i tried to let it flow and instantly started to get like some kaleidoscope images of energy in my head. i was not able to stay in this state for long, but i did notice that id entered a different state of consciousness and tried to keep this connection with God and the Cosmos so i asked for my fear to be removed and felt some beautiful energy moving through my body. it happened like 20 minutes ago! its sad i didn't find much information about this on the web! i do point out that i was trying to induce a lucid dreams and was in a sort of meditative state so that helped. lets try it again! we shouldn't be afraid if the mushrooms showed me something was that when you are fully connected to life there is no space for fear! sorry for my bad english :)
 
I get brain tingles sometimes, usually when I am really excited or I am trying to think about or learn something complicated. This really confuses me as I know it's not the top of my head tingling (because I can run my hand over my head and not alter the sensation) but I was always told there was no nerves in the brain. Wouldn't this mean people would never be able to feel anything happening in there?
 
i experience these zaps when i start to abuse MDMA and currently i am abusing her and have been experiencing the zaps up until 2weeks ago. i read that Alpha Lipoic Acid easily crosses the Blood Brain Barrier and is one of the more efficient antioxidants along with Beta-Carotene which is the precursor to Vitamin A and seems to have some very good properties. I started taking Acetyl L-carnitine 400mg, ALpha Lipoic Acid 200mg, and Beta-Carotene 15mg. Along with my other daily vitamins (multi-vitamin, 315mg green tea extract, 200 IUs Vit E) Since ive been taking all these daily my zaps have pretty much disappeared unless i get really stoned then i experience them. it could be the placebo effect but i really think the ALA and Beta-Carotene is making the differences.

Advanc3d said:
Antioxidant Note[/B]
Remember, Antioxidants always work together synergetically. Once a antioxidant supplement does its job, it turns to the oxidated form which becomes useless. in presence of another antioxidant, it is recycled....
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