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The Big & Dandy bk-MDMA (Methylone) Thread

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samadhi_smiles said:
This one works great at 75-100mg (oral) levels for a very enjoyable night out! Three people (not including my sensitive brain!) agree!

No crash! :)
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They weren't full on Methylone effects though were they? Just some stimulation and feeling good?
 
Yes, full entactogenic effects were not instantiated.

However there was some random hugging and generally VERY upbeat positivity.

I was rolling for about 20 mins there, definitely, but then again I appear to be sensitive to this material. Regardless, we all agreed that this level is very useful, possibly more useful than higher doses which incur some fuzziness and lethargy the next day.
 
samadhi_smiles said:
Yes, full entactogenic effects were not instantiated.

However there was some random hugging and generally VERY upbeat positivity.

I was rolling for about 20 mins there, definitely, but then again I appear to be sensitive to this material. Regardless, we all agreed that this level is very useful, possibly more useful than higher doses which incur some fuzziness and lethargy the next day.
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Interesting. I had tried a lower dose myself before and felt pretty good. It was only 50mg I think. The problem was it made me want more and I ended up taking a full dose shortly thereafter.

On a side note I've been reading lately about "reverse tolerance" when using low doses of substances. Perhaps a daily dose of 50 or so mg of Methylone might even make a full experience stronger?
 
I would strongly advise against using methylone on a daily basis.

My experience and (albeit limited) knowledge of the literature on similar substances suggests that using a monoamine releaser over a daily basis is nearly a surefire way to wreck your biochemistry.

I'm recommending people lower their doses so as to prevent possible neurotoxicity (and other negative aftereffects such as mild depression, lethargy, etc). I'm not recommending that this be combined with a plan to use more often (which would at the very least probably counteract any positives from taking smaller doses).

And as you say, it has a slight addictive quality. If one were to use it repeatedly for days on end, then the likelihood of this addictive quality increasing would be very strong.

Stay safe, stay smart.
 
samadhi_smiles said:
I would strongly advise against using methylone on a daily basis.

My experience and (albeit limited) knowledge of the literature on similar substances suggests that using a monoamine releaser over a daily basis is nearly a surefire way to wreck your biochemistry.

I'm recommending people lower their doses so as to prevent possible neurotoxicity (and other negative aftereffects such as mild depression, lethargy, etc). I'm not recommending that this be combined with a plan to use more often (which would at the very least probably counteract any positives from taking smaller doses).

And as you say, it has a slight addictive quality. If one were to use it repeatedly for days on end, then the likelihood of this addictive quality increasing would be very strong.

Stay safe, stay smart.
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I wasn't recommending it either as the dangers are quite apparent. I am considering doing it myself if I can ever find another source of Methylone.

With regard to the literature on monoamine releasers doesn't amphetamine(adderall) release monoamines? People use these things long term. I'm not saying that there may be consequences, but they don't seem as severe as you're making them out to be.
 
symtoms felt rather physical on the comedown, not just neurotransmitter burnout, not like the other batch of m1 from the no longer existing vendor, which didn´t feel as speedy; But that might be an indiviual reaction. Didn´t know what people find "speedy" about m1 until know.
 
Ximot said:
/\ huh? please explain.


I have used M1 extensively and I never had that... high doses (250-300mg+) would give me such an amount of stimulation that I'd feel that the world was warping and people's faces certainly seemed cartoonish and it felt like I could read their thoughts a bit. And Id' get CEVs for a few hours after repeated dosing, but never OEVs.

A friend got massive tribal-tattoo-style OEVs like MagicalKat777 described - but there was more than just M1 involved... it had been followed up by MDMA and a very low dose of GHB and Xanax and the person had no tolerance whatsoever to any of those substances.
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I said that because it is the truth

almost a year ago i had a 2 month methylone binge where i had a twisted addiction to the stuff

i was making good money and could get the stuff really really cheap - i figure i could get shitty pills that are sometimes good, or i could get something pure, and almost just as good

i had an endless supply of the stuff and was doing it everyday, multiple times a day

it was soooo good. i could not control myself. i'd keep eating it going through gram after gram. the fiending for it was on par with caine. after a while the comedowns were so fucking godamn horrible i was going to either kill myself or check myself into a hospital of some sort - it was so fucking horrible - i don't even like to read the word methylone - i can't touch any mdma analogue again and have turned them down time after time - it was a sad time in my life and just bad memories - i never want to do it again and if i do i don't know what will happen - my usual starting dose would be 500mg then an hour and a half later id eat the rest knowing that it wouldn't get me any higher - id do it every time - i found that with high doses like that it was almost exactly the same as mdma, even the duration was almost as long -i literally flushed the rest down the toilet - i could of sold it/gave it to some friends, but i don't know, the thought of someone else having my stuff enjoying it and i cant just made me feel weird - i have clinical depression and have been really suffering from it since my freshman year of college in 2004, so that mindset didn't really help at all - i don't know i just cant even fuck with the stuff anymore or any kind of euphoric stimulant - then near the end i was adding mdpv to the mix and all hell broke loose - it totally fucking sucked - i can barely even click on this thread


but yea r.i.p. methylone :(
 
I'm sorry to hear that Melange, I remember your troubles with the stuff -

methylone is a potent releaser of Dopamine, Serotonin, and Norepinephrine - it actually releases more dopamine and norepi than MDMA does - it blocks the reuptake of DA, SE, and NE about the same level as MDMA (less SE reuptake inhibition though)-

this stuff should be taken with care and with the same respect MDMA shjould be taken -

blessings,
S_S
 
I don't think methylone needs to be treated with the same care as MDMA. Take MDMA 3 days in a row and you will feel quickly feel like killing yourself. Take methylone 3 days in a row and you will feel as right as rain.
 
melange said:
i don't know i just cant even fuck with the stuff anymore or any kind of euphoric stimulant - then near the end i was adding mdpv to the mix and all hell broke loose - it totally fucking sucked
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Geesh, why does that come as no surprise 8)... well, glad to hear you quit stimulants. I've done them idiotically before, but compared to some stories here/elsewhere my use has actually been quite sane overall. Only one brief episode of dopamine psychosis (<48 hours) in the past 25 years, although last month involved an OD-type situation and a particular stim I will never touch again.

BTW, I will be dosing my lab rats with butylone in the near future, as an experiment... should be interesting.
 
Ismene said:
I don't think methylone needs to be treated with the same care as MDMA. Take MDMA 3 days in a row and you will feel quickly feel like killing yourself. Take methylone 3 days in a row and you will feel as right as rain.
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What you feel is not indicative of what is actually happening inside your brain, Ismene-

Very irresponsible of you to suggest that others imitate your behavior and take methylone 3 days in a row- this is a surefire route for someone to end up massively depressed and or suicidal-

this is a harm reduction board and furthermore is a commonsense board (or should be)-

what you suggest is not common sense-

I take it you have not seen the studies that catalogue methylone's release and reuptake inhibition-

Please get your head on straight before suggesting things like that - there are people on this board who are somewhat impressionable-

S_S
 
I plan on taking methylone for the first time at a psy trance party this weekend. I figure it's a great place because I can either dance or choose to chill with friends. After all the mixed reviews, I'm eager to see what happens and if it's as good as I've been told.
 
well if you plan on staying long don't do it ;o)
it is very short lived, and redosing is almost useless...
 
i love this stuff, actually find it gives greater euphoria then MDMA, maybe i just lost the magic for goin on too long. but yeah, i find m1 a better dance drug. some liken it as the prefect cross between mdma/cocaine since that combo never seems to work well
 
samadhi_smiles said:
What you feel is not indicative of what is actually happening inside your brain, Ismene-

Very irresponsible of you to suggest that others imitate your behavior and take methylone 3 days in a row- this is a surefire route for someone to end up massively depressed and or suicidal-

this is a harm reduction board and furthermore is a commonsense board (or should be)-

what you suggest is not common sense-

I take it you have not seen the studies that catalogue methylone's release and reuptake inhibition-

Please get your head on straight before suggesting things like that - there are people on this board who are somewhat impressionable-

S_S
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Well to be fair samadhi, I didn't recomend people do it - I stated my experience. I think you'll find lots of people who agree that methylone doesn't have the rough side-effects that MDMA does. There was also an experiment done in Austrailia where people were given massive doses and didn't notice any negative effects.

Have you found that taking methylone 3 days in a row leaves you massively depressed and suicidal?

PS. Kids, Listen to your Uncle Ismene and don't take methylone 3 days in a row :)
 
Whoa, whoa buddy... you're new here so let me be the first to tell you that there is no discussion of sources allowed here, at all. I have liberally edited your post.

Carry on then ;)
 
oh, but i just wanted to know whether there are shop's, no links or names..
if this is also not allowed, sorry :)
 
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