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The Big & Dandy Basic Mescaline/Cactus Questions Thread - Round Two!

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18 inches is a nice amount, i never use less, and you can use the core or not if you are performing an extraction, it makes little differance except you have to deal with the additional pulp.
 
Merged in a question about dired san pedro chunks.

What do the chips look like? Are they green, or is there a white part also? If there is a white part, that's probably the core. If there is not, then it's been decored. All dried cactus chips I've ever seen have been decored, for what it's worth. The dosages listed for dried cactus are for decored cactus chips.

Good luck! Mescaline is a beautiful substance. :)
 
I recently consumed ~ 1 oz of peruvian torch. It was very difficult to eat, but probably the most enjoyable trip I've had thus far. It was very gentle yet deep in a way. No nausea at all either.
 
I'm ordering up more Peruvian Torch chips, this time so a friend can experience a psychedelic for the first time.

He's in his 30s, is not a heavy dope smoker, but has smoked his share over the years. And apart from booze, that's it for his drug experience.

It occurs to me that he's really going to be under my care. I'm thinking 25 grams each. My friend knows the basics of what to expect, and we'll have a decent setting and time to burn.

Any need to be more cautious ?
 
Dosing on mescaline cacti

I acquired a pair of twelve inch cuttings from both San Pedro and Peruvian Torch Cacti. Although I have dosed with psychedelics such as salvia, acid, mushrooms and lsa, I have no experience with phenethylamines.

How much of the cacti should I ingest? I'm a bit worried about the dosage, as I've heard of mescaline content varying dramatically from batch to batch.

Thanks:)
 
rolodex propaganda said:
I acquired a pair of twelve inch cuttings from both San Pedro and Peruvian Torch Cacti. Although I have dosed with psychedelics such as salvia, acid, mushrooms and lsa, I have no experience with phenethylamines.

How much of the cacti should I ingest? I'm a bit worried about the dosage, as I've heard of mescaline content varying dramatically from batch to batch.

Thanks:)
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Take one of those 12" cuttings. The mescaline content does vary, a 12" cutting i had about a year ago had me going nicely, but another 12" cutting from a different source I had 2 months ago and it was barely threshold. Just hope for the best.

The search engine should clear this up pretty quick, and... http://www.erowid.org
 
uniter said:
Take one of those 12" cuttings. The mescaline content does vary, a 12" cutting i had about a year ago had me going nicely, but another 12" cutting from a different source I had 2 months ago and it was barely threshold. Just hope for the best.

The search engine should clear this up pretty quick, and... http://www.erowid.org
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I have hard enough of a time ingesting a footlong sub, let along a cactus of equal size. Any preparations one would recommend for a first-timer to the cacti who doesn't have the means to perform an extraction or brew it into a tea?
 
This page has like 5 different recipes: http://www.erowid.org/plants/cacti/cacti.shtml

I have read that a lot of first times fail because the preparation is quite hard, I usually let a friend do it for me and he makes cactus tea which is VERY bitter. Only advice I can give you is to try and try until you finally achieve a good Mescaline trip, it can be frustrating at times but in the end it is so so rewarding... :D

Check my Gallery for a good pic of a healthy San Pedro BTW

Mescaline was my first psychedelic and I loved it, now Ayahuasca is next on my list. =)

Peace o/
 
rolodex propaganda said:
I have hard enough of a time ingesting a footlong sub, let along a cactus of equal size. Any preparations one would recommend for a first-timer to the cacti who doesn't have the means to perform an extraction or brew it into a tea?
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Oh lord no, that's not what I meant *pictures you chewing on a foot of cactus like corn on the cob* 8(

There's no way to consume it without brewing it into a tea or extracting it. Extract is but nicer to consume BTW. I've heard of people stuffing cactus powder into gelcaps and swallowing them and even tried it myself one time. Let me tell you.. swallowing 70 "OO" gelcaps is not easy, and that much raw cactus in my gut resulted in some pretty horrific (and foul tasting) vomitting.

My recommendation is to perform a simple alcohol extraction. Either ethanol or methanol. Methanol's cheaper and better solvent but you have to make sure it's all evaporated from your extract, it's a poison. As long as it's well evaporated you're perfectly fine.

The basic principle is to soak the dried cactus powder (peel green layer from the cactus, dry it and grind it up) in alcohol. Filter it and save the solvent. Take the stuff left in the filter and put it back in the soaking jar, add new alcohol, let it soak. filter again, and repeat the process 1 more time (3 soaks in total). Take all your filtered alcohol and put it in a pyrex baking pan and evaporate it off in a well ventilated area, make sure the residue is nice and dry. Scrape up the residue off the pan, put in toilet paper parachutes, swallow em, wait 2 hours, and Zing! :D

Do a google search for "mescaline alcohol extraction" you should be able to find lots of methods. It's really simple and well within your means.

May I ask why you say you don't have the means to even make it into a tea?

The tea is absolutely foul to drink and comes with hefty nausea. All you need for an extraction is some methanol (paint section of hardware store, often labelled as "Methyl Hydrate", a glass jar, funnel, coffee filters, and pyrex pan, and a room or garage to do it in. I used to do these things in my room at night when my parents were asleep.
 
Ripped off - Peruvian Torch

I just purchased 12g of dried San Pedro (trichocereus peruvianus). If this is plugged, is it likely to produce an effect?

Sorry, maybe this belongs in Basic drug discussion. I know I can just do a search, but I would like to ask the question as I seem to be finding wildly different info on the net regarding potency etc.
 
Plugging 12g of dried cacti would be a mite sore I imagine, AE :D

Don't know a huge amount about cacti, but I have a small sample of dry chippings myself I've been meaning to extract - perhaps you should look into doing the same? Or maybe there's a better option? A tea, perhaps? Dunno. I'll shift this over to the B&D thread and we can both look it up :)
 
Artificial Emotion said:
I just purchased 12g of dried San Pedro (trichocereus peruvianus). If this is plugged, is it likely to produce an effect?
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Beside the effect of hurting your bum-hole, probably not. It takes upwards of 50 grams to get any decent effect. I highly recommend a simple alcohol extraction. The raw powder will taste awful and cause a lot of nausea, you'll probably throw up, same with the tea. Simple alcohol extraction is the way to go with the cacti :)
 
^ If I do an alcohol extraction on 12g will the end alcohol product contain enough active substance to allow me to have a mild trip if I dilue it and plug it?

How much should I dilute the alcohol solution if I wish to plug it?

Am I right in saying I would need a minimum of 50g to get even subtle 'threshold' results?
 
12 grams plugged might give you threshold. I've never plugged cactus extract or even heard of it though. When doing an alcohol extraction you evaporate the alcohol, leaving behind a residue that contains the mescaline. It's a black tar like substance that can be formed into pellets and plugged i suppose. Do a google search for "mescaline alcohol extraction", I recommend methanol as the solvent, sold in the paint section of many hardware stores as "methyl hydrate". Scroll up the page to post #234 to see the basic procedure.
 
If I cook my cactus down completely into a putty to consume easier/store, will the heating and evaporation process remove or harm the active chemicals?
 
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