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The Big & Dandy aMT Thread (3rd incarnation)

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What would everyone suggest for dosage for someone new to AMT who has plenty of psychedelic and MDMA experience? I will be plugging and I was thinking 30-40mg?
 
Right, well I've just dosed around 20mg of this about 2 hours ago and it feels absolutely lush - very similar to a decent dose (100-120mg) of MDMA. The body feelings of warmth/empathy are there too. I've never noticed aMT to be anywhere near this euphoric the previous times I've used it.

I did have some MPA earlier today, so wondering whether that has synergised positively with the aMT to increase the euphoric element somewhat.

I have also just recently came off an SSRI antidepressant (Sertraline/Zoloft, low dose 50mg every few days), so maybe thats had some impact?

Also does anyone here know whether dosing aMT close to dosing 5-htp would be hazardous? I've not done this, but something tells me to be very cautious of doing this (aMT is an MAOI, which will prevent breakdown of excess serotonin leading to potential serotonin syndrome), as serotonin syndrome is one thing I'd like to avoid.
 
We're first time tasters.
We want to use aMT to enhance a really romantic/sexy reunion, so we're happy to be up all night! 8)
We have access to 30mg pre-dosed or powder from a reliable chem site.
We'll also be using a cannabis synthetic blend (sorry dunno which one by chem ID).
As noob users, is 30mg too much for sexy time?
When during the amt trip is best to hit the 'blend' for sexipuss maximus?
 
billabong said:
We're first time tasters.
We want to use aMT to enhance a really romantic/sexy reunion, so we're happy to be up all night! 8)
We have access to 30mg pre-dosed or powder from a reliable chem site.
We'll also be using a cannabis synthetic blend (sorry dunno which one by chem ID).
As noob users, is 30mg too much for sexy time?
When during the amt trip is best to hit the 'blend' for sexipuss maximus?
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I assume you have the freebase, so I would say that yes, 30mg would be too much for a first time aMT+ sex session. Start at 15mg and more your way up.

Pro tip: Blowjobs on aMT are fantastic
 
Hi freehugs,

Sending out a brotherly hug to you for the bj tip! LOLZ... Does aMT make the BJ any better for the 'giver' as well as the reciever? =D

But seriously, thanks for the quick response and dosage advice, just remembered that we have a pill cutter so we'll go half on a 30mg tab. As mentioned we have the option of powder, but since we don't want to plug it or lug scales (or 'suss' looking white powders) through an airport, we'll just put our dose in a vitamin pill bottle for transportation to our hotel. Even though it's legal, you can imagine the fuss scales and powder would cause if found in some dumb airport 'bomb search'.

As for the pill cutter? Well I use it to carve up my prescription Cialis, officer!

Since I read dosage does not seem to be tied to length of trip, but we can expect anything from 9-24 hours, what's the deal with food and hydration during this time?

It seems appetite is not a problem, but water, energy drinks may be a good idea. We get pretty sweaty when we horizontal mambo even without drugs!

We're going to stay away from alcohol but will probably have a toke at some point (synth weed).
 
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You might find the duration maybe a bit shorter on 15mg, but would imagine 9-12 hours (possibly up to 15 hours) is the amount of time you should allow for. Come-up may take up to 2 hours (I find come-up variable on aMT, sometimes as little as 45-60 minutes, and other times, up to 2 to 2.5 hours, though is relatively dose-independent it seems. Enjoy it, aMT is a really magical chemical, every bit as good as MDMA (Superior in some ways I think). I find aMT to be devoid of body load/nausea in me, as is MDMA, but some report rough come-ups on aMT. Don't know whether this is dose dependent though. I've used it a fair bit recently and have grown to really love it.

I personally love the duration of aMT (and DOC), so never really want them to end when they do. All my aMT experiences lie between 10 and 16 hours, with higher doses/redosing leading to the longer experiences. I've found it is one of the few psychedelics I can sleep on (at 50+ mg doses), so maybe you will find a similar thing if you have issues with its duration.
 
Thanks clubberdude,
We're going to switch off the phones for this sesh, that's for sure!
I was thinking of going out to a nearby pub for a wee drink, 2 pints at the very most, and a couple of voddys for the lass, on the come-up, maybe people milling around will distract us from any rough patches, is this a good idea? Bear in mind were dosing at just 15mg max for this first time.

Also it seems if we're on our own and we get a long come-up, it will make time drag even more... the plan is to be able to get back to our room quick and easy when we start to get alerts.

My partner is no stranger to meth, not a hard-core user, she gets super horny after a few modest puffs. I also 'go to rio' on it, but my dick don't wanna know... plus there are genuine risks I may be tested at work for no good reason, just cause they can.

Then there's weed. It makes her sleepy -and me randy as fuck, so its not ideal either as one to share in the sack.

I'm hoping aMT will float our boat without too much nausea/body load. I could have jumped into this chem ages ago but it seemed there were as many hated it as loved it and didn't want a bum trip to spoil the sexual magic with this lady... after a chance to get some 2cb and 4-aco-DiPT (never have used these before either, I might add) fell through, i was so hyped for some psych-sex that i thought fuck it -nothing ventured, nothing gained. Now, I'm getting really positive, and that may even have a placebo effect! I Promise to write it up in about a week, if all goes to plan.
 
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Phones off fo sho' :)

billabong said:
I was thinking of going out to a nearby pub for a wee drink, 2 pints at the very most, and a couple of voddys for the lass, on the come-up, maybe people milling around will distract us from any rough patches, is this a good idea? Bear in mind were dosing at just 15mg max for this first time.
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15mg is PLENTY for a 1st time. My last aMTtrip was 15mg and it was quite active. Very empathic/sorta trippy. On the verge of visuals, my pupils were saucers, etc.

Thing is.. the come-up sucks balls. It's very tense, feels like acute opiate withdrawal. I ended up even taking a tiny bit of kratom to ease it out because it was hankering me a bit too much. I don't think adding alcohol would be a good idea at all. Maybe later on in the trip, but make sure you get the wretched come-up over with before going out anywhere if you feel like doing so. Being in a public place in that come-up tension would not be a good start.
 
I might be weird, but the come-up on aMT is no worse than MDMA for me really. Just quite a bit slower, but get to roughly the same place in the end (35mg aMT vs. 150mg MDMA). I'm going to be doing 5-10mg tomorrow to test a sub-psychedelic dose, redosing 30-35mg in the evening before partay-ying!
 
How's the erotic play out on this one in your experience? How does it combine with 2c-b/Cannabis?
 
I've not tried 2C-B unfortunately (that one is apparently stellar though), and dislike Cannabis, but I feel aMT would be pretty good (lack sufficient experience to say definitively - bit dry on that front atm.). Maybe on a similar level to MDMA, but performance issues seem somewhat reduced with aMT against MDMA.
 
Adding to the above posts, I was thinking of names of aMT - I call it the "thinking man's empathogen". I did originally think of the "thinking man's molly", but thought that sounded tacky...
 
so... what would you guys recommend for a low dose, out with friends to a concert, where it is really important to not get nauseaus?
 
Taking it a few hours before the concert starts. I only find theres a risk of nausea in the first 2-3 hours (very small risk for me personally), then the risk falls to nil. It lasts a long time, and the come-up is pretty slow so peak isn't reached until around the 4 hour mark. 20-30mg is probably a good dose if you've never done it before, but personally I find around 40mg is more interesting.
 
OMFG!! I tanned a fair bit of AMT last week (gosh, I love this stuff. At doses of 80mg oral - freebase - I get all sorts of rushes at the 5+hour mark which I find remarkable. How a chemical can be inside you for that long and via the oral route and cause rushing 5-10+hours after ingestion)

ANYWAYYYY, for the past 3 nights, I've had some incredible dreams. I don't even remember them a few hours after waking up but they are the best dreams I've ever had, that's all I do remember. I've been waking up feeling so euphoric and fulfilled. :D

CANT WAIT TIL THE END OF THE MONTH TO ORDER MOREE
 
Xamkou said:
OMFG!! I tanned a fair bit of AMT last week (gosh, I love this stuff. At doses of 80mg oral - freebase - I get all sorts of rushes at the 5+hour mark which I find remarkable. How a chemical can be inside you for that long and via the oral route and cause rushing 5-10+hours after ingestion)

ANYWAYYYY, for the past 3 nights, I've had some incredible dreams. I don't even remember them a few hours after waking up but they are the best dreams I've ever had, that's all I do remember. I've been waking up feeling so euphoric and fulfilled. :D

CANT WAIT TIL THE END OF THE MONTH TO ORDER MOREE
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I found 38mg oral to be nice but the unwanted side effects were too much for me to want to try again by mouth. Based on how stimulated and uncomfortable I was at 38mg I cannot imagine 80mg!?! Took some xanax to calm down at 12hrs in because I was stimulated and still tripping which is never a nice time.

I want to give this another try plugging about 40mg. I didn't have much nausea though like others have reported.
 
Amt

Ive just ordered a 100mg sample. Now some background, I like to get a good feel of what a drug can do the first time I take it. I will be orally administrating, on an empty stomach if possible. What sort of dose would you folks recommend for a moderately strong trip. Now I know its not the same, but I was perfectly fine with a 25-28mg 2c-e trip with a g of K (obviously fucked, but enjoying it).
 
i thought 15 mg was pretty mild, but still plenty noticeable, with room for increasing dosage. At this level I could detect an alteration in my visual field, but there were no real changes to speak of, and there was a noticeable stimulation, and some effect on mood. Sober people could not tell at all that I was on drugs (as far as I could tell anyways).

I would say do no more than 25 for your first attempt. I have never gone above this level yet, even though I want to, but myself personally, I think my aMT dose will max out at about 30-35 mgs. Either I have really good stuff, or i'm more sensitive to it than some of you folks who like doing 60-80 mgs of it, but I felt like 25 was on the verge of being "a bit much", but still very highly enjoyable.
 
Has anyone here tried 5-10mg /day over an extended period of time for antidepressant purposes? Not suggesting it's a good idea, just curious.
 
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