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Tryptamines The Big & Dandy AMT / αMT Thread - 5th Blast

Do you get nauseous from AMT?

  • Yes, quite a bit

    Votes: 19 29.7%

  • Yes, but only a little

    Votes: 24 37.5%

  • No

    Votes: 18 28.1%

  • Sometimes / Completely depends on whether it is salt or freebase

    Votes: 3 4.7%
  • Total voters
    64
aMT i find mixes quite nicely with a lot of things now, wouldn't have thought of combining them.

particularly enjoy allyescaline and amt for the sparkles and general visual pack it sort of throws into it in a pleasant manner, also lifts the mood even more, find myself laughing more having more fun and induces synthasesia which i find fascinating. probably reckless and dangerous.

amt and mxp seemed to ruin the mxp a little, the hole wasn't anywhere near as dark or fascinating.
 
Best thing I have mixed AMT with was DMT. Can't even work out whether the supposed MAOI properties of AMT increased the length of the DMT effects because I was so high but it was thoroughly enjoyable and combined beautifully with the AMT euphoria. I have also mixed it with a small amount of MXP but wasn't that impressed. Also 5-MEO-DALT in relatively small doses (like 50mg) seemed a perfectly fine combo. The worst things I have combined it with are ephylphendidate and nitracaine. Not fun, but then not totally hellish either. But wouldn't do again with them. I am giving it a couple of weeks break because have been doing pretty regularly recently and in doses up to 180mg.
 
I have often felt like AMT (as well as DOC, separately) would mix beautifully with DMT, but I haven't tried either combination yet. Maybe at the festival in a couple of weeks. :)
 
Me and my gf burned through about 250mgs of DMT while tripping on 3mgs of DOC, and it was a fantastic combo. We only smoked sub-breakthough doses of about 20-30mgs at a time though. I remember at one point we were sitting in a pitch black room, and I ripped the whole bowl in one foul tasting hit, and immediately these insanely beautiful, bright cathedral structures made of faces completely filled the room as if I was sitting in a well lit, psychedelic church. Haha, after it slowly faded away I was eager to keep trying to go back there saying "no, my business is not done at the church of psychedelia! I must return!" Lol, it was definately my best trip with DOC, I reccomend %)

I know this is the aMT thread, but xork brought up the combo so I felt it was appropriate. Oddly enough I've never taken DMT with aMT, at least not that I can remember, but I always felt like it would be a fantastic combo. If I ever run into anymore aMT which I doubt, I'll definately give it a go.
 
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yeah, i forgot to mention the doses of DMT I smoked on AMT were sub-breakthrough but still absolutely amazing! ;-)

p.s. UK RC market is flooded with AMT at the moment, and I have found some really really good quality stuff. Not sure of legality in US. Won't be legal for long here unfortunately, government has realised they missed it with the analogues act, so eventually good intentioned researchers such as myself won't be able to get hold of it. So stock up while its available is the kind of idea. It has so much potential in research, especially in combination with the right things, in particularl DMT in my experience. And I really find it to be less shallow than some of the common phenethylamines, i always feel like I have been to see some kind of cosmic therapist afterwards, unless I do too much of course. it can leave me feeling fantastic and sorted for days, don't know if you have the same experience.
 
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Unfortunately aMT has been scheduled in the US for quite some time, I think since 2004? I could be wrong... Stocking up wouldn't be a good idea for me either, I'll open pandora's box and burn right through, potentially taking a chunk out of my small collection as well. It just vibes too well with me, too well unfortunately.

I agree that aMT combos can be very therapeutic if the chosen substance and dose is right, I like that I'm able to recap the trip the next day with a positive mindset. Though the afterglow goes away with heavy use IME. These afterglows were at their peak when I wasn't abusing aMT. aMT on it's own though isn't very deep, even my first, extremely intense trip on aMT didn't even hint at any introspection whatsoever... but then again maybe if it were taken in a setting similar to an MDMA therapy session it would show it's true colors.
 
Yeah I also get great afterglows for multiple days, especially the next day, when I use AMT responsibly (which I didn't except at first). I find it to be not really deep like other psychedelics, but deep in a utilitarian way, ie, my mind becomes very analytical and emotional at the same time, crisp, clear thoughts, great insight. But no psychedelic deepness/revelations, no matter what the dose was. Unless in combo of course, particularly with a tryptamine. Once I combined AMT with 2C-B and 4-AcO-DMT and had what I called a +4 for quite some time... in retrospect it wasn't but I did feel that I was a direct conduit for the universe/universal consciousness and I was pouring out love for everything from a place of enlightenment.
 
I have definitely had the same experience of just effortlessly pouring out love - amazing. Have had that once before even more strongly on LSD and 5-Meo-DMT. I would agree it doesn't have the depth of certain other psychedelics but it definitely has some kind of depth. And usually sorts me out, unless, as you say, you don't use it responsibly. Although I have never abused it as much as you say you have, I can sure see the potential for it. But definitely giving it a rest for while, out of respect for it and the realisation I don't need to take it as often as I have been
 
It's such a shame its illegal in the US. I really hope the UK government gets some sense knocked into them before they make it illegal here too. It will take them a while, but really it is such a joke. The leading scientist of the official Drug 'Misuse' Research Unit in the UK got so fed up he set up his own independent body and is now doing some great research into how certain psychedelics can support recovery from depression in particular. But the official unit just do what they are told. Although the UK is still know as the druggiest country in Europe, and for good reason.

But I guess things are legal for you that aren't here, like MXE, so we have to usually settle for methoxphenidine or diphenidine at the moment.
 
That combo made for a fantastic trip report btw. Since I didn't have any 2c-b it gave me the idea to take an aMT, 2c-c, 4-aco-dmt combo. It was fantastic, one of my favorite combos for a while but tbh, the 2c-c always felt more like a side-dish while the psilacetin and aMT being the main course. What a feast that was ;)

Your summary of aMT's effects sound about right. For me it always more of an extremeley crisp (perfect adjective for aMT) serene, tranquil feeling that just left me loving everything. It seems to focus on appreciation of the external as opposed to deep and personal internal introspection. It used to cause that child-like wonder that's not uncommon with certain tryptamines for me as well, mainly in the begining of my use. Such a benevolent substance.

NiceEnough: Sadly, I wouldn't count on aMT being removed from that bill. It may be the extinction of aMT besides maybe sketchy china sources. Your right, we do still have alot of goodies like most tryptamines and a few phens like DOC and mescaline analogs. Since the APB's are legal here those have been my sort of "replacement", but there more like MDA than aMT.

The good thing is I have way better self control with these since they're not nearly as forgiving as aMT. So far 6-apb/6-apdb/5-apb are my favorites, 6-apdb is definately the most psychedelic and quite euphoric, but it causes quite a bit of temperature fluctuations... I really wish it didn't because other than that it's good stuff.

Xorkoth, did you ever get off on that 6-apb?
 
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I did end up getting good effects from 6-APB actually. I had about 800mg left which I brought on my vacation with my family this summer... I used it all on that vacation because I really liked it. :p Never had a bad comedown or next day either, I'd feel a little bleary the next day but fine otherwise. It always came closer to giving me a headache but I was always able to get past that. But I loved the enhanced sociability and great physical feeling, and then at night on the end I'd get somewhat drunk and high and it was just a blast. It was no MDMA or AMT, but it was very nice. I'll probably try 5-APB next, or maybe 5-MAPB. Whenever I decide to get another xAPB.
 
Yeah the APB's are pretty forgiving, but they will bite when abused. This mainly applies tp both 5-apb and 5-mapb (the latter comes from anectdote), though your right, 6-apb rarely causes a rough comedown. When I binged on 300mgs of 5-apb I got some zaps and sleep paralysis for a week. I tend to be able to get really high on triple releasers, but also crash pretty hard if I go overboard so it's a catch 22.

Personally, I thought 5-mapb was shit. It always got to the point of feeling toxic before anything worthwhile ever happened, and even then it was pretty weak, idk I'm a weirdo I guess. I'd rank it as the worst APB. It never caused any next day comedown issues though, not even vivid dreams. But it felt very unhealthy during the experience.

I would go for a 5-apb/6-apb combo, I like it better than both MDA and MDMA. 6-apdb surprised me with how visual it was, I'm talking full on hallucinations and shit, as well as some decent phen fractals. It was more of a psychedelic than empathogen, I still have like 800mgs to run some more "experiments".
 
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Likewise it surprised me, tried 90mg the other day, liquidy wobbly trypamine style vision, was like a really small hit of DMT or something when it rolled over me, ripply vision, wasnt expecting that. combined with feeling pretty sick as well. thought it was gonna build up into tripping my tits off but settled and then eased into this quite visual kinda spangly, reminded me of AMT or LSD
 
Having never tried any of the APB family I would be interested to hear from those who have used them exactly where they fall in the spectrum. Since it is an 5-HT2B agonist, how psychedelic can it get? Is it on a par with high doses of MDMA in terms of classic psychedelic effects, including visual distortion? I am surprised that it led to full-on visuals but now very intrigued. Does it have any depth? And lack of comedown if respected sounds great. Will look on specific threads for it, but would like to hear from you guys how it compares to AMT as wel as MDMA, MDA and 2c/mescaline analogues in particular. I know it is different, but I would like to get some more details as to qualitively how it differs from some of my other faves. Currently in love with AMT, BK-2C-B, DMT, mushrooms occasionally, MDMA occasionally, and various dissociatives, particular methoxphenidine at the moment. In fact, I seem to be its biggest advocate on here and perhaps one of the few, along with synthetix, who have explored it in significant depth. But that is for other threads. My interest here is how members of the APB family compare to AMT in particular.
 
6-APB kinda feels like a cross between AMT, MDMA and MDA for me. best way i can describe it. if you like those you'll love 6-APB. i've never gotten full blown trippy off it like MDMA gets at high doses but it does have a visual shift, its nice. pretty much no comedown that i've noticed either. raved on it nearly every weekend through 2012. i found APDB abit too visual and feels a bit shit

One bomb would keep me going all night if i recall. cant remember the dose but it wasnt very high
 
Thanks ColtDan. Not sure it sounds like quite what I am looking for in terms of a strong visuals, but the lack of comedown and trippy edge sounds interesting. Plus, an AMT, MDMA and MDA combo sounds cool. But I do like visuals, I just find acid takes a lot out of me these days, probably because I took way too much when I was young, and big doses of that were always wildly visual for me. Same with big doses of mushrooms which I can handle, not long before season in UK - exciting! The visuals from DMT are on a different level I think and I would consider them much more visionary. Although high does of any psychedelic can be pretty visionary, e.g. the total fractalisation of everything I have experienced on very high doses of LSD. I do miss it. But you have sparked my interest in 6-APB for sure
 
DMT is amazing, incredible stuff <3

Actually i've heard 6-APB called a combo of MDMA and mild dose of shrooms or something. nice stuff, worth a try. the batches i've tried seem a bit different compared to what they used to be like in 2012. 80mg these days usually does the trick
 
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