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The Big & Dandy ALD-52 Thread

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Dosing up tonight dudes will report back mos def.

Have a lot of lsd exp but not sure how much i usually take fml. Gonna start with a tab and a half me thinks unless someone can sway me up or down.

I usually take 3 reg tabs or 2 industrial strength tabs...5 or 6 diluted tabs. My guess is around 250-300 but how tf should I no?
 
It's really smooth with 0 anxiety. I think with your history you could easily pull for 2 tabs.
 
jammin83 said:
Dosing up tonight dudes will report back mos def.

Have a lot of lsd exp but not sure how much i usually take fml. Gonna start with a tab and a half me thinks unless someone can sway me up or down.

I usually take 3 reg tabs or 2 industrial strength tabs...5 or 6 diluted tabs. My guess is around 250-300 but how tf should I no?
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Go for 2 bro. It shines above 200ugs IMO. If you can handle lsd the comeup and nausea is no where near as bad gos for anxiety as well. I really love this stuff. More than any grey market lysergamine to date. And I find the consensus will agree.
 
I dipped in at 250ug for my first trip with this and I had no regrets. It was amazing and virtually anxiety free.
 
After receiving a couple of 125ug ald-52 blotter from a reliable source I tested out the 2 last night!
Amazing, amazing, amazing! Like super clean LSD that was up there with some of the CID I did in the 90s. Just perfect smooth trippeness!!
Give me more...
 
Hell's yes everyone wants more of this stuff. I was probably the 3rd person to write trip reports on here and most said 'you are talking out your ass 1p-lsd is no different than ald-52' Bullshit. This stuff is flying off the shelves. Lol. I just think alot of people had some shit lsd if they think 1p-lsd is better. But that's my opinion. This is as good as the good ole lsd pickard made in Kansas.
Seems like there is a ton of crystal just coming in does anyone have any expierence with crystal ald-52 I know it's hard as hell to dissolve, methanol should be used and then that liquid will separate in less than 2 weeks! Turing from yellow to brown to black but black is still 95% pure after a month of freezer storage or more according to the manufacturer. I really would like to get some but there is no way I could use even 10mgs in a year. And you can't really make a smaller batch then 10mgs. So would needle pointing the crystal work so I don't have to fire up the ultrasonic to make a dropper bottle.
When I say need pointing I mean litterally licking the tip of a needle point and dipping it in powder? I got a feeling that could wind up with me taking a huge dose. Lol
Powder last longer so if I don't have to make a solution that would be great.
 
I read about the rather quick degradation to yellow/brown/black liquid and that's enough to turn me off of the powder, why bother when the blotters will last you a life time?
 
so i ended up taking 1.5 tabs at 125 per tab. could have done way more but wasn't underwhelming. twas pure bliss. think the sweet spot is 250-375. way less pushy than LSD but more or less the same. more warmth, opiate like almost. i would say its about 25% less potent the big papa. big warm psychedelic blanket. just swimming in a serotonin bath for hours. one of the best trips ive ever had. really really clean. music appreciation is top notch as with the king. visuals were a little fuzzy and not super strong but i don't get a ton of visuals from acid besides morphing, etc.

less stimulating, less mania, more glow. no crash. comes down nice and easy. i usually am wiped out for days from LSD and feel kind of depleted. had a nice glow the next day and could have slept pretty easily but had things to do with this one. lasted about 8 or 9 hours but lingered for a long time after. went to sleep for a couple hours after 8 or 9 hours and woke up to catch the sunrise. my last acid trip had me frying for about 14 hours strong. think this one has less dopaminergic action i think. no anxiety. less electric.

the comeup was really gentle but we split our dose and took them 30 min apart which I think made it more ecstasy like. took a while to develop but once it did, we were there. beautiful.

probably more therapeutic than LSD bc the headspace is so gentle. knocked out some depression I was having to boot. feel pristine and restored.

me and the wife both had some GI discomfort and she puked but weve been a little sick and ate right before we dosed. . zofran next time for us. got my doc to get me a rx. fuck yeah. wasn't bad though just minor. my lady is small and requires about half as much as me of most drugs. she was apprehensive about taking a full tab but wants to take 2 or 3 next time.

i believe i have had this before about 10 years ago. Had some mystery tabs that confused me. Was LSD or something but never crossed my mind that it was an analog. I always thought those tabs were special and some of the best i had. consistently had a slightly different trip. about 99% sure it was OS. really fucked me up bc it was confusing that these tabs were consistently just a tad different. was convinced not all LSD was the same after that lol. after reading up on it, I had to pick some up bc i was convinced it was ALD. think i figured out my conundrum and very pleased.

LSD is my favorite psych by a lot. This one tops it for me atm. great for just chilling, shows, cant go wrong. gentle but strong. not missing anything. Its a perfect psychedelic and possibly my favorite drug of all time. its perfect. stock up while you can boys. had one of the best trips I ever had last night.

beats antique was blowing me away as usual. those guys are geniuses and provide a great lysergamide soundtrack.
 
These are interviews from another topic I thought I should share here.




Free lectures from the original Orange Sunshine (ALD-52) chemist Nick Sand

Erowid said:
Erowid Character Vaults
Nick Sand
May 10, 1941 -

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Photo by Jon Hanna, Nov 2009

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Photo by Gene Bernofsky, 1967
from the University Archives, Spencer Research Library, University of Kansas

Summary
In 1961, Nick Sand first took mescaline, sparking a life-long interest in psychedelic sacraments. While still in college, he began spending time at Millbrook, the commune home to Timothy Leary's League for Spiritual Discovery. A burgeoning interest in synthesizing psychedelic drugs grew into an avocation when, during a vision quest on DMT, Sand came to believe that he should devote his life entirely to manufacturing entheogens. He became a criminal as a matter of principle and as an act of civil disobedience, because he believed he was working for a higher good. He left New York in 1967, and headed to the San Francisco Bay Area to set up a lab, where he manufactured DOM (known at the time under the street name "STP") and MDA.

From 1968 through 1969 in Windsor, California, Sand worked in an illicit lab with Tim Scully, who taught Sand how to manufacture LSD. Scully and Sand both felt that it was extremely important to create a product of the highest purity at a standardized dose; these goals resulted in one of the most beloved "brands" of acid in the late 1960s: "Orange Sunshine". Although infamous because of his black-market LSD production, Sand was also the first underground chemist on record to have synthesized DMT. Eventually Sand and Scully were both arrested. In 1974, Sand was sentenced to 15 years, but he jumped bail and relocated to Canada, where he set up a new lab. He was arrested again in 1996 in Canada. Sand served time in prison from 1996 through late 2000, first in Canada, and then in the United States in fulfillment of the 22-year-old sentence that he had evaded. Since his release from prison, Sand has spoken at numerous public events.
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Free lectures from the original Orange Sunshine (ALD-52) chemist Nick Sand

Psychedelic Salon said:
Category Archives: Nick Sand

Podcast 172 – “The State of LSD in 2003″
Posted on February 16, 2009 by Lorenzo

Guest speakers: Earth & Fire Erowid, Ralph Metzner, Stanislav Grof, Nick Sand, and Dave Nichols

PROGRAM NOTES: Erowid’s LSD Vault LSD and Drug Testing LSD FAQ Part 1 LSD FAQ Part 2 “I believe it’s true to say that everyone who has experienced LSD or another psychedelic would look on that experience, especially the first […]



Podcast 154 – “Mind States 2003 LSD Panel”
Posted on August 25, 2008 by Lorenzo

Guest speakers: Nick Sand and Myron Stolaroff

PROGRAM NOTES: [The following quotations are by Nick Sand.] “This process of sharing through language our inherited ability to manipulate first stone tools, then concepts and symbols through language and printing, and then moving into the networking of electronic and virtually instantaneous world wide communication, are three quantum leaps […]



Podcast 054 – “Synergistic Combinations in the Future”https://psychedelicsalon.com/podcast-054-synergistic-combinations-in-the-future/
Posted on October 23, 2006 by Lorenzo

Guest speaker: Nick Sand

PROGRAM NOTES: In his 2006 Palenque Norte lecture at Burning Man, Nick Sand explains how best to use some of the more interesting combinations of sacred medicines. Additionally he answered a wide range of questions that included such diverse topics as the relationship of the atomic bomb to LSD and the reasons […]



Podcast 048 – 2006 Palenque Norte Lectures Sample
Posted on September 12, 2006 by Lorenzo

Guest speakers: Mark Pesce, Erik Davis, Daniel Pinchbeck, Alex Grey, Allyson Grey, and Nick Sand

PROGRAM NOTES: This was the most ambitious schedule yet for the Palenque Norte lectures, 39 speakers in four days. Thanks to the good folks at Entheon Village who provided the facility, which was one of the largest tents on the playa […]



Podcast 037 – “Imprisonment & Liberation Aspects of Consciousness”
Posted on May 17, 2006 by Lorenzo

Guest speaker: Nick Sand

PROGRAM NOTES: In this program, Nick Sand, one of the original psychedelic guides from the Millbrook commune, alchemist, yogi, spiritual practitioner, and drug war victim, discusses the psychological states encountered as an underground chemist, a fugitive, and his five years in prison. The topics dealt with will be how attitude, intention, and […]
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ALD-52 is not orange sunshine, that was merely an ineffective attempt to get off on the charges. Orange Sunshine was 300 mics of 98% pure LSD crystal. Sand has since gone on record saying this, and Scully as well I believe. Owsley said so as well, though he wasn't involved in the manufacture of that batch. Yet this damn myth lives on...

I can't comment any further until I test it for myself but if I had to guess out of speculation since the acetyl group is latched onto the exact same chain as the propionyl group of 1P-LSD, if you want a new perspective look at it as 1A-LSD in similarity, I believe the propionyl group through personal experience and reports does not fit well for *some* people, and some even find it much weaker than LSD, or altered in effects(not profound but noticable, to varrying degrees)

I believe ALD-52 has its own activity as well as metabolising into LSD; 1P only being 38% potency of LSD in mice(most likely due to metabolism of the propionyl chain) this doesn't always prove true in humans so I would guess it's certain enzymes that people have more so or less of hiding out in their metabolic/digestive systems.

Out of speculation and minor reading, ALD-52 I believe transforms into LSD after ingestion, probably through hydrolosis or a much more common metabolic action. Meaning it's most likely going to be very similar, if not indistinguishable from LSD-25. I would assume the reports of no anxiety, clean and magical all relate to good ole LSD25. If you haven't got a chance to try real LSD and are having trouble finding it, I would give this one a shot to see how you like it comparing to 1P, I would guess there may be a difference for most people. 1P-LSD to me is nothing like LSD, when you are very sensitive and accustomed to fine detail and/or may metabolize it differently.. otherwise yes it's very similar which is why most people say it's indistinguishable.
 
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Out of speculation and minor reading, ALD-52 I believe transforms into LSD after ingestion, probably through hydrolosis or a much more common metabolic action. Meaning it's most likely going to be very similar, if not indistinguishable from LSD-25. I would assume the reports of no anxiety, clean and magical all relate to good ole LSD25. If you haven't got a chance to try real LSD and are having trouble finding it, I would give this one a shot to see how you like it comparing to 1P, I would guess there may be a difference for most people. 1P-LSD to me is nothing like LSD, when you are very sensitive and accustomed to fine detail and/or may metabolize it differently.. otherwise yes it's very similar which is why most people say it's indistinguishable.
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Its distinguishable from LSD 25 to me. Its pretty similar but not exactly the same. I almost always get anxiety from real LSD. If not on the come up then definitely on the tail end. I also can't sleep after I take LSD for a long time without a benzo or sleep aid. I fell asleep on this one after 9 hours. This one is way less speedy and electric than LSD for me but very close.

Regarding orange sunshine, sand may have been making LSD but I am pretty sure that this has been in circulation before. maybe never on as large of a scale as LSD but in tight knit circles I would imagine. I can't be 100% sure, but I think I had it 8 or 9 years ago. I had half a sheet and the trips were consistently a little different.
 
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