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The Big & Dandy ALD-52 Thread

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Wesley, I mentioned it before but you should store ald the same as lsd according to my source.
I put my blotters in a ziplock bag, then sealed it with tape, put that one in another bag, wrapped it double and sealed that also, then put that in a glass jar and stored it in the freezer.

So you're definitely not the only one suffering from some mild ocd. :)



I'm 100% sure you won't notice potency loss even 20 years from now. Don't worry about it.
 
If you keep it in the freezer, keep a dessicant packet in there too because freezers are quite moist. Same with the refrigerator. I had some LSD hits in a glass jar wrapped in foil and they got damp eventually.
 
Wesley reynolds said:
Yo so who's tried the ALD-52 blotters, all white, 100ug from Canada source. I just read a previous comment mentioning issues with them. I just got a fuck load lol and now I'm concerned. Any issues with them???????? Quality??
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I'd like to know this as well.....
 
Xorkoth said:
If you keep it in the freezer, keep a dessicant packet in there too because freezers are quite moist. Same with the refrigerator. I had some LSD hits in a glass jar wrapped in foil and they got damp eventually.
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Thanks Xorkoth, I still have to buy some, they are double sealed though, I can drop them in water and they'll remain dry, but I will definitely add some when I remember to buy some.
 
Yea I won't ever store anything in a fridge anymore unless its in mylar and vacuum sealed. I ruined eth lad quick by putting it in foil in a bag with dicessadent packs and that was completely ruined after 2 months. I Just keep it under a mattress in foil in a plastic bag inside a mylar bag and I haven't lost any potency.
Anyways I am going to revisit it this weekend. Got alot of shatter coming so I plan on getting incredibly stoned during this trip.
So glad I sparked a debate about the wide blotters. Has anyone ever seen a full sheet that has not been cut?
I'm thinking there sheets are possibly 250 hits? Idk I wish it was one piece.
Anyway I'm going to dabble with these wide strip's this weekend and see if they are indeed stronger. Surface area alone would make me think yes, they are probably <150ugs. But I have three that came from the same spot of a different sheet (it's the part where the so called "dear antlers " are) that has some HEAVY yellowing going along the perforation line. So let hope they are stronger that's never a bad thing. ;-)
It obvious these were laid on the ald-52 side. The other side is much lighter and no oxidation I can see. I am wondering if they were laid not by soaking but along the perforation. But that would take forever unless you got some really good equipment. That's where I see all the oxidation (along the vertical perf lines) But that could just be because it's easier for fluid to flow into the perf seams.
So I'll let you guys know if they are sronger and am stoked to trip smoke and then blow off fireworks. I really love this stuff it's absolutely up there with pickards LSD of the 90s. Very, very clean and natural feeling.
Happy trails guys and girls,
Nugz
 
Wesley reynolds said:
How stable would you say ald is compared to 1p or l25. I have mine wrapped in foil in an amber jar in a box in my closet, you think foil might be reactive with the acetyl group? Might be a dumb question, but am just very ocd about this because I won't be able to try it for a month and wanta make sure I don't fuck it up. Previous comment about the plain white tabs from n American source, being lousy, got me sweatin too because those are the ones I just got...but anyone can confirm?
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I can confirm: the plain white tabs are pretty good imo. I took a 100ug tab and loved it, so much that I'm popping two tomorrow, can't wait..
 
The canadian ALD-52 WoW @ 100ug blotters are on point. Taking 150ug tomorrow will be happy to report back, microdose was good potency, definitely subtle difference to LSD-25, a little more euphoria, excited to see how it goes.
 
ok thanks^^^ ive heard some complaints and now theres enough people here that are backing the claims....how visual/mental is it at 100ug? About the strength of classic L25 at 100ug??
 
kratomized said:
how visual/mental is it at 100ug? About the strength of classic L25 at 100ug??
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It's ald52, it should have the same characteristics of other blotters if micrograms are the same I guess, that issue has been discussed very often here.
Most people agree that it's about the same, probably a little less heavy on the visuals, a little weaker in potency, easier to handle, and with an euphoric MDMA like boost to it.

Personally I can't tell much difference, only the MDMA like touch to it is quite prominent for me.
 
Yeah, I think a good way to look at ALD-52 is to relate it to the effects of that CBD is to THC, the Acetly group really just works like CBD does in conjuction with THC. If you're having trouble understanding, THC is always better with the addition of CBD.

What we do know, ALD-52 is 90% the potency of LSD - is less toxic, less pyregoneic effect, and double the antiserotonin effect. It basically means its the same as LSD but with a higher chance of reduced negative effects(hypertension, anxiety, body temperature fluctuation etc). The same way CBD works with THC as it reduces the negative aspects and boosts the positive, this is where the correlation comes from it being "Smoother" more "euphoric" and less visual, mainly because it is, and the people that can't distinguish the 2, well they probably aren't too sensitive to lysergamides in general, there's an obvious brightness and warmth with this one.
 
It was shown in a study that ALD-52 was 50% the potency of that in Mice's livers. 1P-LSD was also shown to be 38% potency of LSD in mice's livers. Obviously this doesn't correlate to human use, documented in humans it appears to be about 90% the potency and a minimally if not greater effect on serotonin.
lesser psychotomimetic effects(reduction of chance of Psychosis due to manic thinking/brainwaves) ALD-52 was actually shown in a study to produce a calmer mental state than LSD-25, this is where the correlation comes from it being a slightly different experience, in my case this proves true.
 
Most definitely I was thinking it said I t was 1/5th the potency. It's just 1/5 less toxic intravenously and 1/8 pyrogenic. It is definitely warm and full of love. Very chill stuff. I haven't see a person have a bad experience yet with this.
 
So the acetyl group is known to have an anti anxiety effect in general? I'm curious how this happens, if there's proof of this.
 
The acetyl group itself has no role in any psychological effects, it's the same acetoxy group they use in Melatonin, Aspirin etc, it's just an organic amino acid that is metabolized, the thing with ALD-52 though and most acelayted psychedelics is they have their own activity before ever metabolizing into the precursor which they were made from - ALD-52 and 4-Aco-DMT for example are both active in the blood brain barrier before metabolizing into LSD-25, or Psilocin, proven through IV injection It will have its own signature effect, synthetic 4-HO-DMT(Psilocin) to 4-ACO-DMT(Psilocin with an acetoxy group) you would think would be pretty similar, but they are not, they are very different for many people, the same goes for LSD to ACO-LSD(ALD-52)
 
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It was shown in a study that ALD-52 was 50% the potency of that in Mice's livers. 1P-LSD was also shown to be 38% potency of LSD in mice's livers. Obviously this doesn't correlate to human use, documented in humans it appears to be about 90% the potency and a minimally if not greater effect on serotonin.
lesser psychotomimetic effects(reduction of chance of Psychosis due to manic thinking/brainwaves) ALD-52 was actually shown in a study to produce a calmer mental state than LSD-25, this is where the correlation comes from it being a slightly different experience, in my case this proves true.
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Do you have a link to the study? Please.
 
Yeah I don't know if this has been proven, because I know Nichols has said that the acetyl group is too big to fit into the receptor so would just break off. This, itself, could explain the more mellow effects because it isn't crossing the blood brain barrier as rapidly as lsd, thus causing more mellow effects, sort of like an extended release lsd.
 
I posted some charts on page 12 of this thread, books.google


It has been proven at least in Aco-DMT's case that it does have its own activity before metabolizing in the body, proven through IV injection.
 
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